Switch 2 Pro Controller doesn't have analogue triggers. "Pinnacle of all Controllers".
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kevboard
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I mean we know which chip they use, even if they didn't confirm it.
it's the Tegra T239 with 1536 Ampere cuda cores, 12 RT cores, 48 tensor cores, 12GB LPDDR5X RAM, and 8 ARM CPU Cores.
this has been, at least partly, an open secret for literal years now lol
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WhiteWaterM00se
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Can we use the GameCube controller instead of the pro controller?
Does the Switch 1 pro controller work on Switch 2?
Does the Switch 1 pro controller work on Switch 2?
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Shaki12345
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Probably, but the GameCube analogue triggers aren't comparable to modern analogue triggers and are much less suitable for racing games or driving than you would hope.
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nordique
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Yes but Nintendo themselves do not explicitly say so, which is my point. Can't draw a conclusion one way or another.
They also don't say they have 12GB of ram. That is insider information that has been passed on and/or data mined to confirm.
Some of the same sources that talk about the chip have also said previously Hall effect may be on there.
We won't ultimately know until tear downs, so to say it as a fact is well, not true right now. We don't know what technology they are using for "increased durability"
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kunonabi
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Should be possible since the gc adapter is confirmed to work on switch 2.
Hero_Select
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SweetTooth
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It'll be even funnier when Switch 2 outsells the PS5
The Switch gave those kids lots of confidence!! Lol
believe me .. you don't want Sony in the same space, happened before and didn't end pretty for Nintendo.
Be thankful that Sony is aiming at a different category in this industry (high end consoles) and pray that they don't tap in whatever space Nintendo has carved for themselves.
Shaki12345
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Sony has lots of issues of their own at the moment. No way they can beat Nintendo in the handheld game now.
I collect VHS tapes
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y'all don't realize how corny you all sound with posts like this?
kevboard
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this reads like a joke, but I fear it is not
and you're not? lmao
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Plague Arisen
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I trust 8bitdo will launch a better one for half the price in six months or less
Crayon
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Yes, precisely. For almost every other game it just makes some of the most important buttons on the controller mushy. Even open worlds with driving- I can't remember the last time I played one that needed anything approaching precise control for the gas and brake. For pure driving games, sure.
Bolded. Probably because you could play racing games before analogue triggers were a thing
It's a Nintendo console, and racing games are gonna be fairly rare on it
Nintendo itself doesn't have a flagship racing sim franchise, closest you'll get to that is Mario Kart and even when Nintendo had analogue triggers for their console, it didn't use it. AT least I don't recall that they did.
About the only thing normal people would care about this control is, ergonomics, battery life, durability. If it has hall effects sticks then thats a FAR bigger bonus than analogue triggers. THough both would have been nice, I'm not seeing why anyone would have a meltdown like you're having.
Hell racing games as is, is practically on life support(well in comparison to what we had 3/4/5 gens prior anyway, it's pretty much a racing desert).
Shaki12345
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Like Switch 1, this has to be allowed in the OS (analogue triggers). All 3rd party controllers are recognized as a Pro Controller in the OS. If they have analogue triggers, they won't work.
Only GameCube works with a adapter and even that is shit.
One is a handheld that lots of parents buy for their kids...but hey, maybe the latter will change with the SW2. I mean, the PS5 is projected to sell over 110 million units, can the SW2 at such prices and pricier games reach 100 million? I don't think that's so clear cut for SW2.Two gaming dedicated consoles?
Yeah. I see where that would confuse people
Shaki12345
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Are you aware that Nintendo isn't the only one developing games for Switch 2? Have you ever heard of Forza Horizon or Need for Speed?
WhiteWaterM00se
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Watch the video for the GameCube controller. On top of the controller, it shows a Z, and a ZL button. Also it has the two triggers.
It seems it has all the buttons required to use on Switch games. It would be cool if we could. It might build some goodwill. Hint, HINT …Nintendo.
It seems it has all the buttons required to use on Switch games. It would be cool if we could. It might build some goodwill. Hint, HINT …Nintendo.
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Shaki12345
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GameCube analogue triggers aren't comparable to modern analogue triggers and are unsuitable for comfortable racing.
Two gaming dedicated consoles?
Yeah. I see where that would confuse people
Oh also for you to laugh it out. You see those tablets you dismiss as tangerines to oranges or whatever? They're the direct competitors to Switch. Kids are playing in tablets way more than on a Switch. Tablets will remain a more direct competitor to Switch2 than a hardcore games console like PS5.
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Forza and Need for Speed might end up on Switch, and they'll be the lowest selling versions across all platforms. That's with or without analogue triggers. But yeah, ever since the GC, racing games have been missing Nintendo platforms and Nintendo has no flagship racing franchsie apart from Mario Kart.
There's Cruis'n I guess, and the last did well on Switch, so there'll likely be a follow-up. But the types of racing games you'll see mostly turn up on Switch will be kart racers. And GRID.
Or maybe they'll finally port Project Cars...lol...
Shaki12345
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Open world games have driving. Driving without analogue triggers is the worst thing ever. So, it would hurt more genres than just racing.
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Dacvak
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Wait, where does it say they're not using Hall effect joysticks? I would have assumed they were, since it's been all but confirmed for the Joy-Cons.
Shaki12345
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It doesn't. But if it would, Nintendo would definitely mention in on the product page or the interview.
Dacvak
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Why would they? They didn't mention that for the Joy-Cons (which, again, have been essentially confirmed to have Hall Effect joysticks) and they actually have a huge reason to publicly acknowledge that, re: joycon drift.
In fact, I think it's the opposite. If you read the developer interview, they spend a good amount of time talking about how smooth and upgraded the joysticks are. It's generally not Nintendo's MO to go into the nitty gritty of hardware tech.
I think I'd bet money that the Pro Controller will have Hall effect joysticks.
But at the very least, you should edit your original post, because it's very misleading.
WhiteWaterM00se
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If it doesn't have hall sticks as you say, i would prefer to use the new GameCube controller instead. Especially with the added buttons.
Shaki12345
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My post is primarily about analogue triggers. There is absolutely nothing suggesting they're here. The pictures in my article tell you all you need to know.
Hall could be there, but Nintendo would be absolutely retarded to not market that.
lol, can't say I agree. I've been playing driving games without analgue triggers most of my life. A good wheel is far better than driving a car with analogue sticks and triggers to begin with.
The mere fact that you're playing on controller is already a negative. But that's also my view on FPS games anyway, and people don't seem to complain as much on that front. But if you want a proper racing experience, get a decent wheel and pedals.
Shaki12345
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As somebody who uses throttle control, you should know that analogue triggers are MUCH better for racing than digital triggers.
Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
OP was guessing. He has no idea if they have Hall effect sticks. There is more of an implication in the dev interviews that they actually do use Hall effect sticks, or at least some type of upgraded sticks.
Correct. And we all know that Nintendo is generally pretty stupid.
But the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. You really should alter your OP since you've got people believing you have a source other than your own speculation.
ShaiKhulud1989
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Can imagine driving in Cyberpunk without the triggers (it's comfortable with WASD on PC), but it's a huge no-go for any racing games or flight games for that matter. Shame.
Shaki12345
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Done. Because you're such a beautiful piece of human.
StereoVsn
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Personally, if I buy Switch 2 down the line, I will get 3rd party joycons and 3rd party controllers. Nu-Joycons will be more comfortable and reliable and 3rd party "pro" controller will be fine too.
Actually the controllers I have (8bitdo and gamesir ) should work with new Switch. I don't need that stupid C button.
Actually the controllers I have (8bitdo and gamesir ) should work with new Switch. I don't need that stupid C button.
ShadyAcshuns
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What the fuck is this "hall & oats" effect everyone is screaming about? I guess I'm Out of Touch.
I collect VHS tapes
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I think the issue is more so that we're out of time
Crayon
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Shit. Say it isn't so.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Now that i know the new GameCube controller has added extra buttons on top and it has everything the pro controller has, if the sticks are clickable, i think i would prefer to use a GameCube controller.
Dacvak
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Avid Reading Horse
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I'm not a racing enthusiast but if I were I'd go into wheel and pedals land.
But hey listen here, ya got a whole extra analog stick that can be giving you some analog gas/brake though I suppose not at the same time. But ya know, ya throw in an extra digital gas/brake button and surely you can do most of the things.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I just hope the d-pad is halfway decent this time.
Durin
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Not including analog triggers for a second time in a row is getting tedious.
Digital triggers are cheap mushy garbage that just makes them another button than something you can control, and other pro controllers now just let you lock the analog triggers to behave like a shorter travel digital anyway.
Digital triggers are cheap mushy garbage that just makes them another button than something you can control, and other pro controllers now just let you lock the analog triggers to behave like a shorter travel digital anyway.
mèx
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I don't play racing games, except for arcade stuff like Mario Kart, so I don't care much about them. But yeah, for racing games it's better having an analogue trigger, it's probably the only genre where it really matters.
Personally I prefer having a button-like digital trigger instead of the analogue one. They feel more comfy and are easier to press. They also feel faster, even if they are not since you can set an analogue trigger to trigger immediately, it's just the feeling.