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You are not alone, I never get mad at games but I was ready to chuck my DS4 out the window earlier.
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Multiplayer |OT| Swinging To Victory
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You are not alone, I never get mad at games but I was ready to chuck my DS4 out the window earlier.
yeah they got rid of some legitimately good stuff from U3, sad to see. U3 got to a point where the bullshit was all but minimized, and U4 will hopefully get there too. like you said, the core gameplay shootbang stuff (and framerate!) is really good in U4.
I still think they could transition to power weapons in U4 by removing heavy weapon purchases. Not much would be lost either, since most of them are intentionally underpowered and I haven't seen substantial use of any of them save for the China Lake. Making them map spawns means they could amp up their power and actually make them fun to use.
Power weapon spawns would make all the modes more interesting but TDM would benefit the most. TDM is the most boring shit ever without power weapon spawns. The relic pickups aren't substantial power spikes and they aren't deniable resources. They're just little carrots nudging people in directions but can be easily ignored. TLOU factions loot boxes weren't deniable either but had more to offer in terms of power spikes, as materials could be transitioned into powerful items more quickly than the $200 cash from relics which is basically the equivalent of slaying 1 player.
DaciaJC
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Keihart
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xenorevlis
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Anytime I see you in lobby or matchmaking and we have one or more spots I send you an invite.
Dear WinFonda,
You sound like one who can't really spot or deal with mines
Yours sincerely
A mine user
(Listen to the beep they make, get closer to them and when the beep intensifies roll away. You won't get hit and you won't alert others with gunfire)
Spring-Loaded
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The stealth booster should make your mines invisible.
Cow Goes Moo
Member
instead of having two mines, an upgrade should spawn multiple mines within the explosion radius upon the first mine detonation
condor isn't bad, pistole is the true shotgun, shit is ridiculous
regular pump shotgun is trash without blindfire mod; it's really good with it
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Yea I just checked and yes I have received them but I must have missed the notifications. ಥ_ಥ
°°ToMmY°°;204990346 said:
Dear Tommy,
I don't play with headphones and I like to play with my custom music. Hearing the beep is near impossible.
And if you fully comprehend my complaint, detecting them isn't always the problem. Scrubbing them from the map is.
If the mine is upgraded and I body trigger it, unless I have cover to vault or a place to jump to, it's basically a guaranteed down.
I also don't play TDM, so my mine complaints come from a Command/Plunder perspective.
Yours sincerely,
A vastly superior nade user.
The .44 downs in two shots, the same amount as the power weapon shotgun, but also has the advantage of range. Same amount of ammo too. Like, what's the point in using the Condor?
RecRoulette
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All of the power weapons seem woefully underpowered for their cost compared to regular weapons
They aren't anything to write home about, but most of them can result in an easy 3 or so downs if you don't waste the ammo. They're useful to turn the tide of an encounter. Well I say 'they' - I find the .44 is the power weapon that most suits the category. The RPG, grenade launcher and Condor are a waste of cash. Haven't gotten to try the ARX yet.
The real problem with the power weapons in this game is that they are very situational; you never really will need one until you're actually in a situation that calls for it. Meanwhile, even if you do wind up needing it the Mystical or Sidekick (depending on what you have equipped) generally does the job better without any effort needed on the player's part. It's just placement of the Mystical and/or relying on the AI.
So, you have these power weapons that are ultimately for really specific situations but cost just as much as a Sidekick or a Mystical; sometimes even more than either of those. This isn't even factoring in the amount of LP they require to be in your loadout in the first place (RPG being 5 LP and only getting one shot? Hello? Doesn't even lead to an instant KO. Meanwhile the China-Lake gets way more than one shell).
They would be way better as placements on the maps for sure. Players wouldn't have to spend LP or cash on them and there would be a reason to go somewhere and fight over a power weapon. UC3 at least had this much, it at least had a few power weapons on the maps. For all of UC3's faults in the beginning, it at least tried to maintain the "fight over territory where power weapons spawn" or "go to where the power weapon spawns, grab it ASAP, and make use of it". Reasons to go out of your way to go to a specific part of a given map.
If they aren't going to revamp the loadout system in any way (or rather, are unwilling to do so) then I think the least they could do is buff some of the heavy weapons. Smart buffs. Stuff like, say, getting two RPG shots with the first RPG you buy and then any subsequent time you buy the RPG you only get one shot. Or, just have the RPG KO automatically; no downs unless it's the splash damage. Otherwise, if you hit someone directly with it they should automatically die.
So, you have these power weapons that are ultimately for really specific situations but cost just as much as a Sidekick or a Mystical; sometimes even more than either of those. This isn't even factoring in the amount of LP they require to be in your loadout in the first place (RPG being 5 LP and only getting one shot? Hello? Doesn't even lead to an instant KO. Meanwhile the China-Lake gets way more than one shell).
They would be way better as placements on the maps for sure. Players wouldn't have to spend LP or cash on them and there would be a reason to go somewhere and fight over a power weapon. UC3 at least had this much, it at least had a few power weapons on the maps. For all of UC3's faults in the beginning, it at least tried to maintain the "fight over territory where power weapons spawn" or "go to where the power weapon spawns, grab it ASAP, and make use of it". Reasons to go out of your way to go to a specific part of a given map.
If they aren't going to revamp the loadout system in any way (or rather, are unwilling to do so) then I think the least they could do is buff some of the heavy weapons. Smart buffs. Stuff like, say, getting two RPG shots with the first RPG you buy and then any subsequent time you buy the RPG you only get one shot. Or, just have the RPG KO automatically; no downs unless it's the splash damage. Otherwise, if you hit someone directly with it they should automatically die.
Chalupa Batman
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The Condor is great--cheapest loadout cost and you get 6 shells per use, so that's 3 downs, which is as much as you can get with the Barok, except it's 300x easier to aim the Condor so you're much more likely to actually get 3 downs. The RPG, while expensive considering you get one rocket, is good to take down groups of enemies, which is a pretty common occurrence considering how most teams play. The downside is if you don't down everyone in the group, you rocket is probably wasted because they'll be revived by the survivor.
brickarts295
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I think the best thing about mines, is during command. Sometimes there's a bunch of them near one of their own mine and I just aim towards that and blow them to hell >
The mine should fly after the enemy until they stand next to two of their teammates, then blow them all up.
I think the best thing about mines, is during command. Sometimes there's a bunch of them near one of their own mine and I just aim towards that and blow them to hell >
Once I ran into a team that was throwing down mines within smoke, figuring we'd be dumb enough to walk through the smoke and get blown to bits. They didn't count on me chucking grenades into the smoke and killing everyone with their own mines. Happened twice and made me so happy.
Nice, I love blowing up filthy mine users with their own mines.
Stallion Dan
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Customisation is another feature than shit the bed and got nerfed hard. Where are our custom characters?
Don't see point in some of the things....who the hell can even tell if a character has a nose ring?
Explosives are so inconsistent in this game, yesterday I hit a guy dead on with an RPG, he was just staggered, while the guy a few feet away from him was downed. Same with grenades all the time, near a guy = down, inbetween their legs = staggered, then the reverse next few grenades. They need fix this, I throw a nade at a guy I need know if it a kill before it blows, cannot be standing there waiting to see.
I'm not really concerned with custom characters, it felt pretty odd in Uncharted 3. More colors would be nice though, along with more outfits/characters. The game just came out so I definitely expect a bit more customization to come out, looking at the road map.
Chalupa Batman
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Why you change names so fast lol? Also, didn't you used to be sheeboy64? What happened to that name? Hasn't signed on in ages! We have a Community (run by Wowbaggr) but it's not really active, certainly not like the halcyon days of U2.
GenericBadGuy
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I've never played an uncharted game and rented 4 to give it a spin. The multiplayer is a lot of fun, mobile and I love how the characters aren't just models and have a lot of personality. Unfortunately it seems that if I want to play with even half the toys I have to play for a good long while, so I guess I wont be seeing them. Seeing that first 2/100 or higher for something felt pretty bad, especially when I'm getting stomped by people who have had the game a bit.
xenorevlis
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Was nice playing with ya today! I'm torn between playing some more or playing The Witcher 3 right now at as fast a pace as possible (in NG+)
#1 defender
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I played U4 mp with Wowbaggr last night and this actually came up, heh.
Somnium986
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Is anyone else getting booster unlocks even we you've unlocked all the boosters? I have ghost 2 on but can't revert back to 1 because apparently it's locked. Is there some kind of prestige thing going on, or is it a glitch?
Chronospherics
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Eh the custom characters from before were just one model with alternate skin textures, it was hardly a custom character and personally I don't think it added much to the experience at all. They could just add a skin for an unknown character I guess...
As for actual customisation options though, this game as a hell of a lot more than UC3. So I wouldn't say it was nerfed (as you put it) at all. There are far more options here. You just can't be a blank slate before you apply them. I can see why people might miss that but I think saying there's less on offer here is farfetched.
Stallion Dan
Member
What are you talking about just alt skin textures?
Skin colour
Shirt
Headwear
Gloves
Leggings
Shoes
Colours
All custom. Compared to what we get here...
Hat
Face
3 was really limited when it came to the actual characters though. You could change top and bottom colors and maybe they had one or two hats (before DLC), but that was it. Plus there were far fewer skins per character.
Personally, I prefer fewer generic "treasure hunters" and "pirates". We've already got enough generic mercenaries on the villain side.
Stallion Dan
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They really need to force drop the idol when you drop from a ledge or jump. You can carry it and keep jumping to move fast with it. Stupid.
I really like the structure of unlockables in this multiplayer.
Gameplay unlockables take a long ass time, but it also means you feel like you've earned it and that you have learned how to use the items you do have through practice.
Then cosmetics are easy as hell to unlock with all of the challenges that are reasonably easy to complete. It really feels like there's no incentive for me to spend any real life cash and the bread crumb trail of cosmetic unlocks keeps me motivated to try new stuff with the challenges.
Gameplay unlockables take a long ass time, but it also means you feel like you've earned it and that you have learned how to use the items you do have through practice.
Then cosmetics are easy as hell to unlock with all of the challenges that are reasonably easy to complete. It really feels like there's no incentive for me to spend any real life cash and the bread crumb trail of cosmetic unlocks keeps me motivated to try new stuff with the challenges.
What's more, you can even shortcut most long-grind gameplay unlocks with relics too, albeit randomly. It's a really wonderful reversal of ol' "Greedy Dog". I hope it doesn't change when the new content starts rolling in.
The only issue I'm having is getting to my first hero weapon. I'm at about 250 downs with the AK, so another 100 to go to get my first and be able to buy those chests.
I got my first hero weapon pretty early on with the Para 45. Solid handgun and only needs something like 150 downs to get that first hero weapon.
It seems the only viable strategy here is to stick with teammates and do the die/revive game ad nauseum. There isn't very as many opportunities for "holy shit, look what happened" moments due to the down system, no power weapons, also with mines strewn about. My favorite thing in past UC MP is map control and flanking opportunities. Know the map better than your opponents and you're at a huge advantage. Now with no stealth kills (thankfully they left the pulldown in) along with the mentioned above, it's making me yearn for the old MP. It's not bad and I'll likely continue to play it, but it's still a downer.
methane47
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So i have about 30 hours in multiplayer in this game.... and I do not understand but I'm terrible.
I feel like all opponents have an edge on me, with all guns.... With me it takes two shots from the grenade launcher to down an enemy... but when any random grenade launcher hits me its lights out with one go.
With guns I feel like I'm dying before I even have a chance to react to the gun shots. Where a player is hitting me from across the map with the freaking AK... While it takes me almost a full clip up close with seemingly every bullet hitting with an AK to down another player.
Pistol challenges are horrible omg. Trying to get 10 kills with the aegis was a nightmare.
I feel like all opponents have an edge on me, with all guns.... With me it takes two shots from the grenade launcher to down an enemy... but when any random grenade launcher hits me its lights out with one go.
With guns I feel like I'm dying before I even have a chance to react to the gun shots. Where a player is hitting me from across the map with the freaking AK... While it takes me almost a full clip up close with seemingly every bullet hitting with an AK to down another player.
Pistol challenges are horrible omg. Trying to get 10 kills with the aegis was a nightmare.
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