Keihart
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I agree with you.
Maybe this game needs a real director's cut, with deleted escenes and new editing in general. Just like blade runner or LoTR with added hours of footage
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End |OT| You're gonna miss this ass
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I agree with you.
Maybe this game needs a real director's cut, with deleted escenes and new editing in general. Just like blade runner or LoTR with added hours of footage
Salz01
Member
This was the worst. I kept expecting it to happen. And it didn't. Such a missed opportunity. It couldn't have been that hard to do.
RespectThySole
Member
Nadine fight 2 worked because she finally reappears, but gameplay-wise there was very little there. Might as well have been a QTE since you couldn't change anything and there wasn't even any firefight in that chapter. Not to mention that it just leads into chapter 16 lol.
Sam's rescue wasn't as well executed as it should've been. Chapter 20's ship graveyard was awesome, but then there is a huge cool down with nothing but platforming at the end of that chapter and for the entirety of chapter 21. A small cooldown was needed, but Chapter 21 was essentially useless.
Madagascar Sam chase was great. Arguably the highlight of the game, but there should've been a nice firefight after the setpiece with such a long cooldown looming in chapter 12 onwards. They jumped straight to the boat though smh
Nadine fight 1 sequence was okay. I felt they could've done more there though. The fight itself was not interesting outside of Nate meeting her. Fight system needed a parry mechanic during those forced 1v1s. Also, part of it was really a stealth tutorial. The bit at the end was good though.
Prison escape was fun, but didn't present any real challenge to the player due to how scripted it was.
The best climax after Chapter 20 was Scottland escape. I actually really loved that part.
Volcano was a huge missed opportunity too
Sam's rescue wasn't as well executed as it should've been. Chapter 20's ship graveyard was awesome, but then there is a huge cool down with nothing but platforming at the end of that chapter and for the entirety of chapter 21. A small cooldown was needed, but Chapter 21 was essentially useless.
Madagascar Sam chase was great. Arguably the highlight of the game, but there should've been a nice firefight after the setpiece with such a long cooldown looming in chapter 12 onwards. They jumped straight to the boat though smh
Nadine fight 1 sequence was okay. I felt they could've done more there though. The fight itself was not interesting outside of Nate meeting her. Fight system needed a parry mechanic during those forced 1v1s. Also, part of it was really a stealth tutorial. The bit at the end was good though.
Prison escape was fun, but didn't present any real challenge to the player due to how scripted it was.
The best climax after Chapter 20 was Scottland escape. I actually really loved that part.
Volcano was a huge missed opportunity too
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
This game needs more Elena, her face at the start of the game when they were on the couch was so fucking real and so cute.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Game could have used 1 more set piece on the level of the Sam Chase section. Left disappointed that they showed the highlight of the game a year before release.
TBH I hope the DLC is just that, 1 godly set piece.
TBH I hope the DLC is just that, 1 godly set piece.
MegaSackman
Member
I think the difference lies in those who need to prove themselves skilled at video games, and those who don't mind this, at least not all the time and just want one hell of a ride. One could say that Uncharted is (demon word coming) casual friendly, but it's not cheap, it excels at what offer to its public.
Something similar happens with God of War, most of the time I hear complains about how the gameplay pales in comparison to Platinum games when I think they go for total different goals.
Something similar happens with God of War, most of the time I hear complains about how the gameplay pales in comparison to Platinum games when I think they go for total different goals.
Fancy Clown
Member
I love the gameplay in Uncharted games, I just wish the balance in this one was less lopsided throughout the whole experience.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
What are you guys talking about? They shut down the volcano right away. First thing they say "it's extinct" and even if it was active, happening to erupt right when we arrive would have been weird.
Keihart
Member
I really think that part of it was people that complained about not engouh exploration in the past games. The game really seems to take to heart some of the criticism, wich is kinda of a double edge sword. They fixed a lot of things, but also seem to have restrained a lot of posible cool situations in the game for the sake of consistency.
RespectThySole
Member
One minor thing that was annoying was the black and white health indicator, especially on the harder difficulties. I do understand that it's a "gamey" thing and obviously not just limited to Uncharted, but it hurts more here. The game is so beautiful, yet they obscure it so damn much. At the very least they should've removed it from the chapter
setpiece.
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MegaSackman
Member
Nah of course that it couldn't be right away, it should be at the end. I know about the "extinct" chat but cmon, that always means the opposite!
Either way, it's not even a minor complain from my part, I can't be dissapointed for something made out in my mind and that I even feel it has no place in the story.
Keihart
Member
hahaha yeah, i kept looking for an option to disable it when i was not doing too hot on some encounters.
EDIT: I remembered just now, WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK, THERE IS NO " at the count of 3" JOKE
Fix that shit in the director's cut.
MegaSackman
Member
Count me in the same camp, the game is almost perfect to my taste.
Haha a good one in similar vein is the one in Scotland I think where Nate wants to move an obstacle and ask Sam for help and he told Nate "what if this is the only thing holding the place?" Nate "...then I apologize".
Jawbreaker
Member
I have to agree with being disappointed by the title screen. It's really boring, and it could have at least used a somber rendition of "Nate's Theme" proper. It worked with The Last of Us (that title screen music is incredible), but it's not doing anything for Uncharted 4.
They should at least offer an option to disable it.
They should at least offer an option to disable it.
I unfortunately think the further we get from this release the shine will wear off a bit and when the dust settles the strong consensus will be- amazing game but a a few steps short of goat tier. Ultimately I expect the overwhelming majority to have uc2 as the cream of the uc crop with 4 as the consensus 2nd. That's not to say it isn't an amazing achievement given how high the bar was set, but my initial play through and the reviews and whatnot I thought for sure this was going to be the new benchmark for ND. Uc2>4>>>3=1. I won't rank ga due to controversy given I enjoyed that one quite a bit. I still got tlou as NDs crowning achievement.
Vault Dweller 111
Member
I'm with you. The non combat were some of my favorite parts of the previous games.
Spring-Loaded
Member
Where was it relative to the treasure?
If it was right on top of Avery's ship, they could've had it go off during the final/second to last chapter (with having to avoid magma and shit while climbing around), just to drive home how ridiculous it would be to keep going after the treasure, and the final fight could've involved fighting Rafe while maneuvering around the magma engulfing the ship or something.
Then it could seal away the ship/treasure so it wouldn't feel like a "well, they could probably get back in there and get some of that," situation.
Then it could seal away the ship/treasure so it wouldn't feel like a "well, they could probably get back in there and get some of that," situation.
I think it wouldn't be weird at all, aside from the ridiculousness of being right next to
magma
Vault Dweller 111
Member
O_O was there a volcano on the Libertalia island? I was just talking about the one in King's Bay.
She is Morrigan from DA. Same VA.
RespectThySole
Member
Definitely. I used to chill to the Uncharted 2&3 title screens before starting them up, but Uncharted 4's does nothing for me. They cribbed a little too much from TLoU with this game. Just because it works well in one universe doesn't mean you have to apply it to another, already established one.
For example, that chapter 16
snorefest was shoehorned solely to generate "Left Behind" feels when Uncharted 3 already established a more fitting reason why Nate goes by Drake. Just made me roll my eyes. Could've at least spared us by making it a cutscene.
Lmao
Andrefpvs
Member
This is the best thing I have ever seen
Mother of god, this encounter is so good.( Late game location spoilers)
http://abload.de/img/ezgif.com-video-to-gi8bqrw.gif
http://abload.de/img/ezgif.com-video-to-gi8bqrw.gif
WooHooAlex
Member
Chapter 20 on crushing... Whoever at ND is responsible for this can fuckin' blow me.
You can use the Bonus features (buy in Main Menu) and you can still earn Crushed trophy.
Bullet time, infinite ammo etc.
RespectThySole
Member
The difference between these two games for me is that some parts of Uncharted 4 felt like a total chore, when I replayed it like to the point where I was unsure if I even wanted to continue once I hit that 12-16 stretch. I actually enjoyed Uncharted 2 even more on my second playthrough. That game is one hell of a ride.
WooHooAlex
Member
I don't get that option because I haven't beat the game on any other difficulty yet. I went straight to crushing.
Jawbreaker
Member
Hah, I used to do the same thing. I was kind of hoping the theme would kick in on the title screen once you completed the game, but alas. :[
Yeah, I was holding out hope but I should've seen it coming. It feels so weird to want something big and stupid to happen, but that's what I've been coming back for again and again: a playable action movie. Which, parts of U4 still are.
What exactly was the reason established in UC3 for Drake's fake name?
Mr.Fletcher
Member
I think Uncharted 2 probably has Uncharted 4 beat for pacing, it also has more blockbuster moments and is easier to pick up and play with a lighter, more breezy tone.
Uncharted 4 is my personal favourite because it tells my favourite story, has the best character moments and has stellar encounter design (the best in the series).
General movement, traversal and gunplay all put the previous titles to shame in my opinion.
The ending was pure bliss too.
However, I do think Uncharted 2 will remain the people's champion. For many, pacing is king for this series and Among Thieves really does take the cake in that department.
Uncharted 4 is such a different animal to the original trilogy, it's hard to really compare it to the rest.
But I will say Uncharted 4 apes the beginning of Uncharted 2 (starting half way through the story before jumping back) and doesn't do it nearly as well.
There's an article floating around with a quote from a developer saying that initial sequence was taken out of the middle of the game and put at the start to really grab players, but I think perhaps they should have come up with a different solution.
Uncharted 4 is my personal favourite because it tells my favourite story, has the best character moments and has stellar encounter design (the best in the series).
General movement, traversal and gunplay all put the previous titles to shame in my opinion.
The ending was pure bliss too.
However, I do think Uncharted 2 will remain the people's champion. For many, pacing is king for this series and Among Thieves really does take the cake in that department.
Uncharted 4 is such a different animal to the original trilogy, it's hard to really compare it to the rest.
But I will say Uncharted 4 apes the beginning of Uncharted 2 (starting half way through the story before jumping back) and doesn't do it nearly as well.
There's an article floating around with a quote from a developer saying that initial sequence was taken out of the middle of the game and put at the start to really grab players, but I think perhaps they should have come up with a different solution.
Keihart
Member
I liked chapter 16, it stablishes the concept of some kind of "fate"
It's in some manner like each game is dedicated to some aspect of Drakes life, first would be Elena, second would be Drake's friends, third would be Sully and Fourth Sam.
I might be looking too much into it, but UC4 gives some kind of arc to the whole series in a cool way.
for the family. Like they are the heirs to some legendary explorer's legacy
Like it gives Drake a reason to be so obssesed with treasure more so than money and adrenalin.
Like it gives Drake a reason to be so obssesed with treasure more so than money and adrenalin.
It's in some manner like each game is dedicated to some aspect of Drakes life, first would be Elena, second would be Drake's friends, third would be Sully and Fourth Sam.
I might be looking too much into it, but UC4 gives some kind of arc to the whole series in a cool way.
80s Bad Guy
Banned
Maybe they live on an island because of the outbreak
Replaying the game I realize there isn't really one section I don't like.
I didn't? It's in spoiler tags
It was pretty apparent that there would be replayability issues. So much time is spent telling the story and its why they have those long segments of boring platforming or "exploring". On first play it was outstanding. the visuals, the locations, etc. But I really was waiting for more uc2 style set pieces or action and it never quite got there outside of one scene.
The thing that best sums up the tonal shift is the title menu. As many have pointed out the sweeping theme used to play as you were ready to set out on your adventure. In its place we got a silent shot of the game. It worked so well in the last of us in context of the story and the game. It kind of works here but it shifts focus entirely of what the game is actually about. This is clear through gameplay, pacing, story, etc.
Again one of my favorite gaming experiences and very memorable for me, but ultimately it will not top uc2 for me.
Andrefpvs
Member
Image spoiler tags don't work on mobile. People will still see the image embedded.
Mr.Fletcher
Member
I could easily make an argument in my own mind for
Scotland
It's probably the slowest stretch of the entire game too.
CrichtonKicks
Member
There was a threat not long ago that spoiler tags don't work for some people when used for images on the mobile version of GAF.
You can't spoiler a gif. Its tagged in my quote because I deleted a letter of the link.
Fancy Clown
Member
I loved that area too. Gave me Ice cave vibes from Uncharted 2 which is one of my favorite sequences in the games. Really dug the platforming and puzzles, and chapter 8 is one of the few chapters to have a number of encounters peppered across it.
12 & 13 were way slower than 8&9. There's only one encounter in 12-13.
MegaSackman
Member
I see his post spoiler tagged. But I think that you see the gif directly if you use mobile browser though. From desktop I see the spoiler tag.
I totally expected the ending chapters of the game to have
much higher stakes than what was presented. As soon as Elena showed up late in the game and rescued Nate, I totally thought she was going to get kidnapped and taken hostage or something by Rafe, and Nate would have to pick between saving his brother or Elena. Something heavy like that. Elena was the most heartfelt/grounded part of the whole story, the fact that for most of the game she's at home and is unaware of what Nate's doing would've made that decision all the more heartbreaking. Innocent wifey gets kidnapped and is taken hostage and Nate now has to decide between his wife (who is only in that situation because of Nathan), and his brother, who is blood related, but also lied to him to get him to go on this journey.
The way they ended it was fine, but after TLOU, I expected way more gut wrenching, heartbreaking scenes between some of the characters. Some real tension.
The way they ended it was fine, but after TLOU, I expected way more gut wrenching, heartbreaking scenes between some of the characters. Some real tension.
CrichtonKicks
Member
I'll have to check encounter select later but I'm pretty sure most of the chapters from 8 on have multiple encounters.
Elena getting captured falls into the damsel in distress trope and I'm so glad it never happened.