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[reilo]

6,000 post edition :bow

 

[steve]

SixAxis works fine in Uncharted and ToD. It's minimalistic, and it works for those purposes.

 

[Ken Masters]

Why did they not add first proper use of sixaxis as a pro?



Indeed....indeeeeeed. Although i could care less about reviews....I was sold on the game from the start but then the demo blew my Fing mind.

Rachet uses the Sixaxis very well

 

[PistolGrip]

SONY should really start to court journalist. Give them Free stuff, they love that shit. Make them feel important!!! When was the last time you let some reviewers have a few system or something like that.

 

[Evazan]

Any usage of sixaxis is poor usage of sixaxis. To the pits of hell with this abomination and let us never talk of it again.

Like a Phoenix rising the Sixaxis has emerged in Uncharted as a force to be reckoned with!

 

[JB1981]

8.5 8.5 8.5. Solid score.

Yea not much to complain about there. Not everything has to be a 10 these days.

 

[the_id]

Game is awesome. we're happy with an 8.5. us ps3 fans have learned to be humble and not expect too much from reviewers.

 

[deepbrown]

Dude chnage that post now, or you iwll be banned

I was only repeating what Marcs said.

 

[neojubei]

Yea not much to complain about there. Not everything has to be a 10 these days.

Yea, but a lot of them are being handed out this gen.

 

[Loudninja]

I was only repeating what Marcs said.

So? change it anyway!

 

[deepbrown]

So? change it anyway!

Done, maybe you can edit your quotes of me then. Dang people are dying, and I'm not allowed to poke fun at the 1up. Meh

 

[Evazan]

I was only repeating what Marcs said.

Yeah....quotes work too. I'd change that my man.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

SixAxis works fine in Uncharted and ToD. It's minimalistic, and it works for those purposes.

No. Into the tarpits with it. No implementation of sixaxis functionality is minimalist enough to excuse its obnoxious presence in otherwise perfectly fine games.

 

[Loudninja]

Done, maybe you can edit your quotes of me then. Dang people are dying, and I'm not allowed to poke fun at the 1up. Meh

Lol, done

 

[Firewire]

In case anyone is interested!

PSU talks Uncharted with Naughty Dog Co-Vice President

http://www.psu.com/PSU-talks-Uncharted-with-Naughty-Dog-Co-Vice-President-Feature--a0001851-p0.php

 

[deepbrown]

This might get you banned. Edit ASAP.

Change your quote? Pwease.

 

[Dante]

Woohoo 6k!

 

[Loudninja]

6,000 post edition :bow

Late again

 

[spwolf]

No. Into the tarpits with it. No implementation of sixaxis functionality is minimalist enough to excuse its obnoxious presence in otherwise perfectly fine games.

its optional, you can just use right stick..and actually combination of both is what works the best.

 

[deepbrown]

Lol, done

Deary me. Anyway I could feel the bitterness in them giving it 8.5. Though I DO know that they were looking forward to challenging and clever puzzles...it was one of the things they wanted to come over from Soul Reaver, but ND wanted them to be easy so you "finish the game" because it's "meant to be like a movie".

My advice to ND...it's not a movie, it's a game. If you put a puzzle in a game, make it challenging, reaching frustrating but not quite, but most importantly, make it compelling. If people have spent $60 on your game, they are going to want to finish it, and will look on the web for a puzzles solution....you shouldn't worry about them completing the game if they've already bought the game.

 

[reilo]

Late again

Actually, no, since the thread started out with post count #1 and not #0, hence, my post really was number 6,000



:lol

Spoiler

That was a joke btw just to see if anyone would believe that shitty math

 

[spwolf]

Deary me. Anyway I could feel the bitterness in them giving it 8.5. Though I DO know that they were looking forward to challenging and clever puzzles...it was one of the things they wanted to come over from Soul Reaver, but ND wanted them to be easy so you "finish the game" because it's "meant to be like a movie".

My advice to ND...it's not a movie, it's a game. If you put a puzzle in a game, make it challenging, reaching frustrating but not quite, but most importantly, make it compelling. If people have spent $60 on your game, they are going to want to finish it, and will look on the web for a puzzles solution....you shouldn't worry about them completing the game if they've already bought the game.

from the demo, i wouldnt think they game was easy, whatsoever.. But many people do dislike the puzzles, like me for example...

 

[Madman]

Any usage of sixaxis is poor usage of sixaxis. To the pits of hell with this abomination and let us never talk of it again.

No way. It works great in Folklore and really adds to the game. Fl0w would not have had nearly the same feel without it. It might not work everywhere, but it definitely has it's uses.

 

[Evazan]

from the demo, i wouldnt think they game was easy, whatsoever.. But many people do dislike the puzzles, like me for example...

Theres puzzles in the demo??

 

[deepbrown]

from the demo, i wouldnt think they game was easy, whatsoever.. But many people do dislike the puzzles, like me for example...

The wanted the puzzles to be easy...I get what they mean, but I despised the puzzles in GOW...cause they were stupidly simplistic. I think having the Soul reaver guys on Uncharted made 1up preempt what Uncharted should be like...forgetting it's a different game, and that Soul Reaver didn't sell that well.

 

[BobTheFork]

Theres puzzles in the demo??

kind of wondering the same thing.

 

[Dizzan]

Deary me. Anyway I could feel the bitterness in them giving it 8.5. Though I DO know that they were looking forward to challenging and clever puzzles...it was one of the things they wanted to come over from Soul Reaver, but ND wanted them to be easy so you "finish the game" because it's "meant to be like a movie".

My advice to ND...it's not a movie, it's a game. If you put a puzzle in a game, make it challenging, reaching frustrating but not quite, but most importantly, make it compelling. If people have spent $60 on your game, they are going to want to finish it, and will look on the web for a puzzles solution....you shouldn't worry about them completing the game if they've already bought the game.

I wish there was more cross industry interaction. Naughty Dog should work together with the Zelda team for the sequel. Zelda puzzles>>>>>>all

 

[Lord Error]

I thought puzzles in GoW and especially GoW2 were great. Not too difficult, not insultingly easy Who didn't like the circular water puzzle in GoW2?

I'm hoping Uncharted has something simillar, but to be completely fair, at first there was talk that the game wouldn't even have any puzzles - the very first interview at E3 about gameplay, Evan Wells didn't even mentioned puzzles as the gameplay component. It's nice to see they decided to put them in after all.

 

[nelsonroyale]

Yea not much to complain about there. Not everything has to be a 10 these days.

no game should be a ten...none of the games Ive ever played have deserved it from an objective viewpoint

 

[deepbrown]

I wish there was more cross industry interaction. Naughty Dog should work together with the Zelda team for the sequel. Zelda puzzles>>>>>>all

No i think they would have been fine by thereself...they said they toned down the puzzles from what they originally were (that's what i interpreted it as anyway)

 

[Tieno]

no game should be a ten...none of the games Ive ever played have deserved it from an objective viewpoint

There's only a subjective viewpoint.

 

[deepbrown]

I thought puzzles in GoW and especially GoW2 were great. Not too difficult, not insultingly easy Who didn't like the circular water puzzle in GoW2?

I'm hoping Uncharted has something simillar, but to be completely fair, at first there was talk that the game wouldn't even have any puzzles - the very first interview at E3 about gameplay, Evan Wells didn't even mentioned puzzles as the gameplay component. It's nice to see they decided to put them in after all.

GOW2 maybe...GOW1 NO. Remember that twisting shapes and fit together to make a rectangle puzzle? Peh...that's like a three year pushing shapes through the right shaped holes.

 

[deepbrown]

There's only a subjective viewpoint.

Not completely accurate. You can look at something objectively, or subjectively. Objectivity needn't be an aggregate combination of lots of subjective views. Though that's only my subjective opinion (and yes there are only subjective opinions lol)

 

[The Chef]

No. Into the tarpits with it. No implementation of sixaxis functionality is minimalist enough to excuse its obnoxious presence in otherwise perfectly fine games.

So how do you feel about R&C use of it for the

Spoiler

"hacking" open doors and cutting through walls

 

[Kosma]

Ok caved in and played the (short) demo.

Game looks and sounds fucking ace. Gameplay in the demo is ok, nothing special imho. The jumping bits are very well done, but the gunplay isn't the best around, but maybe I'm just not used to being in cover after clocking in 20+ hours in COD4 MP. The story will be what drives me forward to finish this one, cause it's very well done.

All in all glad I pre-ordered this one. But it won't be GOTY.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

no game should be a ten...none of the games Ive ever played have deserved it from an objective viewpoint

seriously I have not played one game this year that deserved a 10 that was given to it.

Bioshock was fantastic but a fricken 10 a 8.5 for that was totally sufficent. I cant comment on Halo cause I didnt play it but gears 10 seemed pretty ridiculous as well. About the only games I have ever played in my life that I would give a 10 were Mario 64, MGS1, Resident Evil 2, and HL1 but a lot of people will probably have a problem with that list as well.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

So how do you feel about R&C use of it for the

Spoiler

"hacking" open doors and cutting through walls

I actually did like it for the hacking parts I found them to be much more difficult using the joysticks than the tilt function funny enough.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

So how do you feel about R&C use of it for the

Spoiler

"hacking" open doors and cutting through walls

I didn't use it for anything in Ratchet, except the tornado launcher. And that sucked. Well, not the weapon, but the control method.

 

[Tieno]

Not completely accurate. You can look at something objectively, or subjectively. Objectivity needn't be an aggregate combination of lots of subjective views. Though that's only my subjective opinion (and yes there are only subjective opinions lol)

I really don't know how to look at a game 'objectively'. It's my experience and then I try to see why I responded to it the way I did.

 

[TEH-CJ]

Ok my final (serious) review predictions

IGN - 9.4
Gamespot 8.5
1up - 8.5
Gametrailers 9.1
Edge - 7
GamesTM - 5.0
Eurogamer - 8

i put money on it.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

The jumping bits are very well done, but the gunplay isn't the best around, but maybe I'm just not used to being in cover after clocking in 20+ hours in COD4 MP.

I guess we can't be friends after all. COD4 SP might have been a 10 if it had featured some cover fire functions. Not that I liked the gunplay in Uncharted, but on a purely strategical level, Drake seems more well trained than my SAS dude.

 

[Firewire]

I think the sixaxis was used perfectly in R&C, and from what I've seen of Uncharted they seem to be following the same route.

 

[KGKK]

I didn't use it for anything in Ratchet, except the tornado launcher. And that sucked. Well, not the weapon, but the control method.

Whatchu talkin' boot?! It was awesom-o

 

[deepbrown]

I really don't know how to look at a game 'objectively'. It's my experience and then I try to see why I responded to it the way I did.

Difficult yes, impossible no. Though your feelings on what is an objective way to look at a game is of course completely subjective...

I guess we can't be friends after all. COD4 SP might have been a 10 if it had featured some cover fire functions. Not that I liked the gunplay in Uncharted, but on a purely strategical level, Drake seems more well trained than my SAS dude.

I love motion controls :/ and I used to think analogue sticks were over rated...

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

I didn't use it for anything in Ratchet, except the tornado launcher. And that sucked. Well, not the weapon, but the control method.

hahaha man isnt that the truth I couldnt control the damn thing unless I stayed perfectly still.

 

[BobTheFork]

I think the sixaxis was used perfectly in R&C, and from what I've seen of Uncharted they seem to be following the same route.

The grenade arc was a good idea, but it seems like I never have time to properly set it.

 

[Evazan]

seriously I have not played one game this year that deserved a 10 that was given to it.

Bioshock was fantastic but a fricken 10 a 8.5 for that was totally sufficent.

That one boggles me too. But it was good just not 10....mostly because of the end i would say.

The grenade arc was a good idea, but it seems like I never have time to properly set it.

I got pretty good with it actually....but then again i probably put like 50 hrs into the demo so far.

 

[Kosma]

I guess we can't be friends after all. COD4 SP might have been a 10 if it had featured some cover fire functions. Not that I liked the gunplay in Uncharted, but on a purely strategical level, Drake seems more well trained than my SAS dude.

We still can be friends because I haven't said a word about COD4 SP, which I despise with great passion. I'd rather listen to a Gamespot podcast then play COD4 SP.

Drake has all the moves yes, but there's something about the shooting that feels off to me. The shots seem to lack punch, and the enemies don't react too well when being hit. It just feels strange.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

The grenade arc was a good idea, but it seems like I never have time to properly set it.

You get a lot better at it the more you use it I can pop that thing up and dial it onto a guy within a second now it gets really intuitive since you just tilt the controller toward the direction the guy is more or less.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

That one boggles me too. But it was good just not 10....mostly because of the end i would say.

Yeah I totally agree man its almost like we have had this conversation before...

We still can be friends because I haven't said a word about COD4 SP, which I despise with great passion. I'd rather listen to a Gamespot podcast then play COD4 SP.

Drake has all the moves yes, but there's something about the shooting that feels off to me. The shots seem to lack punch, and the enemies don't react too well when being hit. It just feels strange.

I disagree but your avatar kicks unholy ass.
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