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Metalmurphy
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Man I was starting to hate this new reviewer on GT, and now this?... So much for my favorite reviews...
What happened to the old reviewer on GT? BRING HIM BACK PLEASE.
What happened to the old reviewer on GT? BRING HIM BACK PLEASE.
I'm looking forward to the soundtrack popping up on iTunes in a day or so (hopefully iTunes+). Whoever is charge of the general music production/selection for this game has been doing a bang up job, between the selection of composer for ingame music, the Massive Attack trailer and then the DJ Shadow remix. Really firing on all cylinders on the music front.
What? Heavenly Sword? HS uses very linear environments with no deviation. The worlds in Assassin's Creed are so far beyond HS that it isn't even funny. You can see for what seems like miles and travel to every inch of the world. Heavenly Sword is nothing like that *AND* runs at a terrible framerate.Ynos Yrros said:
Ynos Yrros
Banned
Scale is scale, the vistas in HS easily surpass those that can be seen in AC. And LAir is simply on a whole other level, so if he wanted to comment on scale, he should have used that instead.dark10x said:
Metalmurphy said:
Agreed. The Assassin's Creed review was a first hint, and this review seals the deal: GameTrailers-review-quality has taken a dive. Headfirst one-way-ticket to rock-bottom. I just hope they get their shit together before they completely destroy their reputation.
Yup, I commented on this as well. Really jumps out at you when you get to the Spanish fortress and literally crawl over the majority of the thing, even if it doesn't seem like you'll be able to go everywhere at first. And it's not just the exterior, but inside and underneath as well.dark10x said:The rest of the experience is also kickass. I LOVE the level design as they really do carefully lead you through everything. You see something in the distance and wish you could go there, but before you realize it, you've circled all the way around an area and did just that. I'm glad the level design is so focused, though. Not everything needs to offer an open world these days (and quite frankly, outside of Crysis, I'm becoming tired of them). The level design here is perfectly tuned for a tight gameplay experience. Naughty Dog HAS delivered open world gameplay in the past (Jak II and 3) and Uncharted kicks the shit out of those games.
But I do see some potential to do something like they did with the Jak series and create an open world hub for subsequent Uncharted games. It'd mesh well with the whole treasure hunter angle and the treasures they already have you collect throughout the game. Accept assignments to locate treasures for archaelogists, museum curators, private merchants, etc. Earn money for ingame upgrades. Meanwhile, you can still have a fairly cohesive and linear path to the main storyline.
I disagree with a couple points in the Gametrailers review, but thought it was good review.
Anyway, they did bring up a good point ... online leaderboards.
Picture this: Complete the game first time and you unlock score modes. You could have a fastest completion mode, total score mode (Take in account things like time / accuracy / treasure / headshots / bonus for melee etc) , treasure hunter (random treasure placement + time) and have them upload to a leadboard.
Not a big thing, but it think it'd be cool.
Anyway, they did bring up a good point ... online leaderboards.
Picture this: Complete the game first time and you unlock score modes. You could have a fastest completion mode, total score mode (Take in account things like time / accuracy / treasure / headshots / bonus for melee etc) , treasure hunter (random treasure placement + time) and have them upload to a leadboard.
Not a big thing, but it think it'd be cool.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
That's true. After all, even games like Monkey Island did let you perform tasks in any order you wanted, the story simply progressed further after you've completed all the tasks you needed to.kaching said:
Still, I'm not sure if that's the way to go, does that offer you any fundamentally important and interesting choice to make, or does it just make a game more difficult to develop with no really big benefit to the player. In fact, more interesting choices offered in a game set on a linear path may be the better way to go.
How many chapters are there in total? I just finished Chapter 4, this game is fucking awesome so far.
Drake is based on this guy right??
http://imdb.com/name/nm0277213/
Drake is based on this guy right??
http://imdb.com/name/nm0277213/
dammitmattt
Banned
One thing that's really annoying me are the treasures. You see, I'm the OCD-type that likes to find everything in games and it's really annoying that I have to stop every few seconds to look for a glint of an object. Why aren't the treasures actually in, you know, treasure chests? Why aren't there actual objects instead of just a glint? It just feels a little bit lazy and thrown in to me.
Also, is anyone building a list of treasure locations and medals? I took a quick look at Gamefaqs and didn't find anything.
Also, is anyone building a list of treasure locations and medals? I took a quick look at Gamefaqs and didn't find anything.
dankir said:How many chapters are there in total? I just finished Chapter 4, this game is fucking awesome so far.
Drake is based on this guy right??
http://imdb.com/name/nm0277213/
There are 22 chapters total. And you got the wrong guy.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
IGN that you're thinking of gave it 9.1Borys said:
IGN UK is different crew.
Their last comment is, I dunno, weird. They can't possibly think TR series is more "inteligent", can they? There's so much dumb stuff in TR, from the braindead combat to the one dimensional characters (pretty much all of them except for Lara)
You're talking about the non-linear nature of AC, right? In that sense I agree. But I think HS looks quite a bit better, and its linear nature is probably helping it achieve that.dark10x said:
Firestreak
Member
I don't see how so many people can be scoring this game in the 8 range. Reviewers have really started to let those little extras that add little to the game to mean way too much. No online leaderboard, this is our complaint? Not enough to do after you beat the game? Shitloads of unlockables aren't enough? Quit trying to justify the low score you already wanted to give, and actually score the game based on the damn game. Either that, or shove a pipe up your ass, and go play some shitty game with an online leaderboard, and talk about how happy you are to know your ranking while I'm busy wasting my time playing a more fun game.
I'm talking about the size and scale of the environments. Heavenly Sword looks somewhat large, but it's very limited in where you can go. I feel that the vistas in AC are even more impressive and you can actually travel there if you wish.
Also, AC runs at a better framerate and, in my opinion, looks better overall (HS is very uneven). At times, HS is stunning, but then you have other areas that are actually borderline ugly (the snowy regions, for instance). Uncharted looks a whole lot better as well.
My opinions on a game are usually formed after I've thought about it for a while and looking back on HS, the absolutely awful framerate is the first thing that sticks out. :\ Everything they did with the engine ends up meaning nothing in the face of such poor performance.
dark10x said:
Probably the most impressive game world I've seen all generation. Unfortunately the actual content of the game didn't recieve the same attention. Such a beautiful world, so little to do in it. That said, I am kind of looking forward to playing it tonight after work.
AgentOtaku
Member
so I'm on Chapter 12 right now.....i'm getting freaky vibes of this title being on Half-Life levels for me.....yeah...I went there.....
dark10x said:
Agreed. Heavenly Sword is like God of War, in that the camera is LOCKED DOWN. The devs know EXACTLY where the camera will be all the time and therefore can build their world to be very dense, because they know that the player will never be able to move into Area A while swinging the camera over into Area B, like Uncharted or AC.
Because of the camera limits God of War holds 60fps almost all the time. Why HS chugs along at 15fps (a travesty that blemishes the gorgeous animation) I will never know.
dammitmattt
Banned
Firestreak said:
To be fair, from what I understand, Ratchet appears to be more replayable since your weapons continually upgrade (through two tiers) and you keep most of your stuff through subsequent playthroughs, plus the fact that you have to play the game in a different way to keep your multiplier up.
For Uncharted, your only real motivation to replay the game is to find the treasures you missed the first time through and unlock the rest of the medals. The reviewer does have a point.
Borys said:
Just about....even when it doesn't really make sense!
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On an unrelated note, I'm 3 hours into the game and 47% complete according to my save, but I'm only on Chapter 8. Is the percentage indicator screwy, or are the later chapters shorter than the earlier ones?
deejay8595
my posts are "MEH"
I hope when more people get this game they will post some GREAT HD PICTURES!
M3Freak
Banned
Kittonwy said:
I don't bother with manuals, for the most part. Eventually I'll look in it, but not until I've put in several hours into a game.
The in-game manual idea is excellent. It would not be difficult to implement, and would be INCREDIBLY useful to all players. Now that I think about it, I'm surprised developers don't this already.
I finished this last night, and it was a phenomenal experience. Surely the best Indy game that was never made - the only thing missing was the whip and the John Williams score.
That said, if you're even a semi-hardcore gamer, I'm going to beg you to play it on the "Hard" difficulty level. I blew through the thing on "Normal" in about 8 hours, and wish I would have played through on a harder difficulty level.
That said, if you're even a semi-hardcore gamer, I'm going to beg you to play it on the "Hard" difficulty level. I blew through the thing on "Normal" in about 8 hours, and wish I would have played through on a harder difficulty level.
M3Freak
Banned
Big-E said:
That's the rub: they're not professionals. That's why they can get away with blatant lies, playing games half way through, etc.
I don't like the reviews gaming mags and sites are putting out for the PS3's premiere games. It's obvious, beyond any shadow of doubt, reviewers are lying in their reviews and knocking scores down based on those falsehoods. What they are saying doesn't match what we're playing.
Something fishy is going on...
dammitmattt said:
This is what I want to see people move away from, because people have different tastes. Reviewers shouldn't run around wielding replay value as fact. Some people just do not prefer to go back into a game to get a couple of new weapons or upgrade them: sounds nice to me though
. To me, games are becoming more and more like movies with their cinematic appeal. If anything, a game needs to succeed in Single Player in order for me to even think about replaying it. Just like a good movie, I will replay it over and over again for the quality experience. That is more replay value than I could even ask for. Note, there are exceptions, though: like if the game was built for multiplayer, Warhawk. GauntletFan
Banned
I can't believe people are mad over 8s and high 8 scores. That's really good! I could understand the upset if the game was getting 6s and 7s. You guys are crazy.
Yeah, AC is just so insanely good looking, it makes you overlook some of it's gameplay drawbacks.
JB1981 said:
Yeah, AC is just so insanely good looking, it makes you overlook some of it's gameplay drawbacks.
The difference is, in AC or Crysis you can mostly go everywhere while in Uncharted you cant. It doesnt make sense to have full detail versions available of what you can never reach.Kittonwy said:
And that goes for more than graphics. In Uncharted everything is linear and skripted (beside the actual fighting of course) so the game does not need to keep track of any gameplay data.
btw. IMO Lair cant hold a candle to Assassin's Creed, most stuff is pretty ugly up close. HS looks great but sure the distant scenery is a lot preLODed.
Nothing at all wrong with that, my only point is that Crysis doesnt compare very good to Uncharted from the nature of the technical challenges both faced.
GauntletFan
Banned
dankir said:How many chapters are there in total? I just finished Chapter 4, this game is fucking awesome so far.
Drake is based on this guy right??
http://imdb.com/name/nm0277213/
That guy actually looks just like Drake, with different hair.
finished this yesterday afternoon. loved every single minute of it. the intense gunfights, characters, dialogue, variety of the environments (sooooo much texture/level variety, every chapter felt unique), and
, it kept me up until 5 AM... then i got stuck in the
. situations like that were when the AI was just shining.
aside from the tearing (this stuff annoys me to no end), i have nothing negative to say about the graphics. even that wasn't very noticeable in the later levels. i can't wait to see what they do with this engine later on.
took me almost 12 hours, but i spent a lot of time looking around for treasure and taking in the sights. only got 38 treasures, though...
my favorite part in fights was shooting a guy in the arm right before he tosses a grenade, causing him to drop it and blow up himself and sometimes a friend. that made me giggle on so many occasions, and i never really meant to do it.
once the descendents showed up there was a real sense of CRAPCRAPCRAPCRAPOMGRUN GET OUT
gunfight with the commandos in the bunker, when both sides are getting attacked by descendents
aside from the tearing (this stuff annoys me to no end), i have nothing negative to say about the graphics. even that wasn't very noticeable in the later levels. i can't wait to see what they do with this engine later on.
took me almost 12 hours, but i spent a lot of time looking around for treasure and taking in the sights. only got 38 treasures, though...
my favorite part in fights was shooting a guy in the arm right before he tosses a grenade, causing him to drop it and blow up himself and sometimes a friend. that made me giggle on so many occasions, and i never really meant to do it.
GauntletFan said:
Comments like these drive me nuts. People here are mostly upset with the fact that a supposed professional site state false information in their review and use that information to formulate their score. Even if they gave it a 9.5 or a 9.7 or hell even a 10 people will still be bringing this up. You know why? Because its not true. If gaming journalism is ever going to grow up then corrections like this need to be made or gaming journalism is always going to be seen as glorified pr speak.
http://www.ripten.com/2007/11/19/uncharted-on-the-xbox360-not-bloody-likely/
Have a wee read of this "Uncharted on the Xbox360? Not bloody likely" . Pretty good for a quick giggle, but even more hilarious is the video at the end. YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS VIDEO of DRAKE DANCING lol Yeah and the article is good too...:lol
Have a wee read of this "Uncharted on the Xbox360? Not bloody likely" . Pretty good for a quick giggle, but even more hilarious is the video at the end. YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS VIDEO of DRAKE DANCING lol Yeah and the article is good too...:lol