rollingstart
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this game totally satisfies the Indy urges you have. I had trouble taking this one guy out and he punched be back while laughing in my face, so to pay him back I shot him in the torso and watched fly back.
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sh4mike said:
The fact that you can't bullshit cheese aim like that is exactly why the gunplay is great, a headshot actually means you've aimed and shot the enemy dead on instead of being the result of inching your crosshair while in cover. If you miss by an inch, you miss by an inch, if you get one of them in the head, the enemy die instantly, and you don't get the chance to just stand there, take all day to line up your shot, you either get the shot right, or you go back into cover, cover-aiming is lame and is essentially a built-in cheat.
Actually you can still hit them during their animations, there's a difference between the lack of hit detection, which is NOT what's happening here, and the enemy reacting to your shot and then you MISSING your next shot because he has moved.
You've got 40 shots in your handgun, headshots are actually one-hit kills. When was the last time you shoot an elite or a boomer in the head and kill them in one shot in Gears? The handgun especially has a nice pop as well as none of the guns being a pea-shooter like the lancer.
Ok, you had trouble in easy mode and died FIVE TIMES? IN EASY MODE?
damn why can't I shot the bird and eat it like snake eater?! The opening scene is allot like snake eater. I couldn't figure out how to get my backpack out of the tree though! :lol
The AI is pretty good but then again they can see you thru walls. Try alerting them then running behind that big wall, they track you up and down even though they should not be able to see you... I wanted to try stealth but it seems once one guard sees you they have radar! Yeah sorry I want MGS4!
Guns could use some recoil. Might be lack of rumble but they feel pretty weak. Nice arm/leg hit animations and limping though!
Platforming was kind of meh, I did like the little 'reach' animation he makes when you can side jump to another ledge though!
Graphics are amazing, but why if they are doing FMV cut scenes not Put 16x AA on them? weird.
The AI is pretty good but then again they can see you thru walls. Try alerting them then running behind that big wall, they track you up and down even though they should not be able to see you... I wanted to try stealth but it seems once one guard sees you they have radar! Yeah sorry I want MGS4!
Guns could use some recoil. Might be lack of rumble but they feel pretty weak. Nice arm/leg hit animations and limping though!
Platforming was kind of meh, I did like the little 'reach' animation he makes when you can side jump to another ledge though!
Graphics are amazing, but why if they are doing FMV cut scenes not Put 16x AA on them? weird.
Tearing = slowdown. It only happens when the framerate isn't at 30/60 fps. (well, it wouldn't tear at 15fps either but that'd be unplayable)msdstc said:
I certainly didn't find it got in the way of the game though - it wasn't framing out particularly badly and didn't really affect responsiveness.
Definitely agree with you there - I love that the AI doesn't just sit there as targets and that they try to flush you out. Even on Easy (when I was taking photos) I spotted them doing this which makes a nice change.methane47 said:
I agree, the hand-to-hand combat is fairly useless, especially at the harder difficulties. What I love though, is that you can run up to someone and take them out in one hit if you haven't been spotted - I managed to take out four or five of the pirates in the first big area this way before I was spotted.Elhandro said:
CrapSandwich
former Navy SEAL
Speevy said:
Character design is no an excuse for unsatisfying gameplay.
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The Sphinx said:
Yes, you walk up to it and press L2, do you do anything else?
rollingstart
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Z3F said:
easily.
you make it seem like this is the first time Nathan fired a gun, he clearly has had practice before, but he is no military man. He can just as easily get dropped than any of the enemies in hardmode.
antoniogaud
Member
DoctorWho said:
I feel how you are not feeling this game.
Space Runaway
Member
Speevy said:
I keep hearing how your supposed to be Joe Everyman but judging by the games intro(Not the demo cinematic) your quite clearly an experienced archaeologist. Not really your average Joe at all, more like a heavily watered down Indiana Jones.
rollingstart
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Space A Cobra said:
and Indiana Jones was an example of an everyman.
Indy was never the best at fighting, nor was he the most acrobatic guy around, he would just barely make it through some situations.
reilo said:
I died once on normal by (no joke) a barrel exploding as I ran past it.
From your impressions to this, you sound about as convincing as Major Nelson's nauseating exclamations about being a 'gamer'.sh4mike said:
No offense, nothing against different tastes, but you spend way too much effort trying to convince the reader how they should side with you, for the apologist/rationalist bits to work.
fistfulofmetal
Banned
Speevy said:
halo?
Enemies move around a lot more than most other games these days and don't just sit there popping in and out of cover - they actually push forward and try to flush you out. If you're not careful, I could see it being pretty easy to run out of ammo as well, as you don't get much, and you need to move around and hit triangle to pick it up rather than just running over it.reilo said:
If you just stay in one spot shooting without moving around much, I could easily see the enemies flanking you and killing you on easy if you're not someone that plays this kind of game a lot, or you aren't very good at shooters.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Wow, damn. Really surprised the demo has recorded video for cutscenes! I thought they explicitly said everything was realtime?
Could it be that they recorded it into the video just for the demo? That... would be kinda weird, wouldn't that make the file(s) even bigger that way?
Could it be that they recorded it into the video just for the demo? That... would be kinda weird, wouldn't that make the file(s) even bigger that way?
Posting on a PS3 with the software keyboard so I'll be brief: The demo is amazing! The visuals are crisp and the texture work is very well done...the animation that impressed me the most wasn't the character animation...rather, it was the animation of the jungle, itself. The jungle is packed with trees, vines, shrubs and grass...all swaying, naturally in the breeze. The lighting model also looks amazingly natural, despite the shadows not being as high-rez as I would like. The character animation is tons better than I expected...though the transitions are not perfect. It really is refreshing to be in control of a character that doesn't move like a bowlegged refrigerator :b It's also amazing how minute some of the the animations are...in one instance I was climbing up a partially destroyed wall and noticed Drake's hands where at just the right angles to hold on to the uneven edge.
The gunplay is great IMO: a mix between RE4 and Gears, with the surprise addition of a darn good auto-aim for when you are shooting from the hip. The Gears controls only go so far as the 'O' button is concerned and only deals with the actual mechanics of getting behind cover, switching cover positions, and leaving cover. The aiming and shooting, itself is definately closer to RE4's and, in my humble opinion, the combination works really bloody good. The pistol is decently strengthed (3 body shots or 1 headshot is all it takes to take someone down); the AK-47 is very powerful feeling, though Drake has a bitch of a time dealing with its recoil; the shotgun looks, sounds, and is a death dealing monster (I have a soft spot for shotguns that are well represented, in a game's arsenal, and this game doesn't dissapoint), though the limited number of shells does prevent me from going on shotgun-only rampage; the grenades are powerful, but with a small blast radius, and are easy to use with the game's auto-aim (I did have trouble with the waggle throwing, but that mostly went away when I started considering how the grenades would roll once they landed from my throws); and the fist fighting is amazingly well-implementd (and saved my ass more than a few times in my last playthrough). The platforming controls are intuitive and work splendidly, though I did notice that some reachable ledges could not be climbed upon (and now that I think of it...some places, in non-combat areas, could not be used for cover). The jump is a little too realistic...you can't jump as far or as high as countless videogames have caused me to expect :b
I'd like to state how easily immersed I became or talk in depth about the characters and presentation but...well...hunting ond pecking this post out on the soft-keyboard has already taken me over 20 minutes and I'd rather not type anymore in :b
For what it's worth, this is game is easily a must-buy, for me...Goodnight
The gunplay is great IMO: a mix between RE4 and Gears, with the surprise addition of a darn good auto-aim for when you are shooting from the hip. The Gears controls only go so far as the 'O' button is concerned and only deals with the actual mechanics of getting behind cover, switching cover positions, and leaving cover. The aiming and shooting, itself is definately closer to RE4's and, in my humble opinion, the combination works really bloody good. The pistol is decently strengthed (3 body shots or 1 headshot is all it takes to take someone down); the AK-47 is very powerful feeling, though Drake has a bitch of a time dealing with its recoil; the shotgun looks, sounds, and is a death dealing monster (I have a soft spot for shotguns that are well represented, in a game's arsenal, and this game doesn't dissapoint), though the limited number of shells does prevent me from going on shotgun-only rampage; the grenades are powerful, but with a small blast radius, and are easy to use with the game's auto-aim (I did have trouble with the waggle throwing, but that mostly went away when I started considering how the grenades would roll once they landed from my throws); and the fist fighting is amazingly well-implementd (and saved my ass more than a few times in my last playthrough). The platforming controls are intuitive and work splendidly, though I did notice that some reachable ledges could not be climbed upon (and now that I think of it...some places, in non-combat areas, could not be used for cover). The jump is a little too realistic...you can't jump as far or as high as countless videogames have caused me to expect :b
I'd like to state how easily immersed I became or talk in depth about the characters and presentation but...well...hunting ond pecking this post out on the soft-keyboard has already taken me over 20 minutes and I'd rather not type anymore in :b
For what it's worth, this is game is easily a must-buy, for me...Goodnight
CrapSandwich
former Navy SEAL
Speevy said:
It's not about it being one thing or another, but it's got to be something good. I liked just tooling around the jungle... the adventure and platforming and plot all look like they could be great. But the demo centers around gunplay, and what's there isn't anything special.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Marconelly said:
I suppose they could still claim "real-time" in the sense that the engine runs at the same speed and they simply recorded it to hide load times, but I doubt the GAF cognoscenti would accept that.
I personally don't see anything wrong with rational thought. It's a testament to modern-day internet forum stupidity that, saying I don't want to buy a game but can still appreciate its top-tier production values, is viewed with suspicion and reproach. Presenting both sides of an argument is a part of my professional life.Fafalada said:
Given disposable income and time constraints, I focus my gaming activities on perhaps 5-10 titles a year. This allows me to be quite picky with my selection. And although I recognize Uncharted is a great game, I don't believe it will be as fun as Mass Effect which comes out at a similar release date. This shouldn't require additional explanation, and it should be understandable to all but the most paranoid forum lurker.
Interesting world. Cheers.
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I post here for two reasons. First, to find like-minded individuals to share ideas with. Second, to explain to the world what games, and gameplay elements, I enjoy in the hope that additional titles will be developed in the future with gamers like me in mind.
Most forums are very black-and-white. Either hate the game or love it -- there is no middle ground. And I have enough internet experience to know that, coming into this thread and posting a non-perfect, "grey" review would cause outrage with the bipolar majority. Thus, I make an effort to soften my posts and keep the world a happier place to be. Perhaps this is disingenuous, but it's a simple adaptation to peer mentality.
Just got done with my first play through. Absolutely loved it! I played on normal and only died twice. Plan on going through on Hard. I love the gun firing in this game and the cover system. Hand to hand fighting is really fun as well but kind of pointless if there are a bunch of guys around. Shotgun is freaking awesome. And I like how you can use the sixaxis for when you are lining up where you want your grenade to go. First day purchase for me confirmed .
.I absolutely love the Hand to hand combat... it works "right" you can't just go up to someone and expect to win every fight... with a baddie....
and so many of the moves are context senstive.. like for instance.. one time I ran up to a guy at full speed cuz i ran out of shotty bullets and i hit the attack button... and Apparently he had just pointed his gun towards me to fire... so Drake then baseball slid in between the pirate's legs and grabbed the bad guy's gun.. pulling him down and when he was low enough... Draked threw the butt of the gun right back into the pirate's face... knocking him out cold
and so many of the moves are context senstive.. like for instance.. one time I ran up to a guy at full speed cuz i ran out of shotty bullets and i hit the attack button... and Apparently he had just pointed his gun towards me to fire... so Drake then baseball slid in between the pirate's legs and grabbed the bad guy's gun.. pulling him down and when he was low enough... Draked threw the butt of the gun right back into the pirate's face... knocking him out cold
1. Stop comparing this to Gears of War, Tomb Raider, or whatever other game you feel it deserves to be compared to.
2. Stop complaining about the opening cutscene. It's a pre-recorded video rendered using realtime in-game assets. It's not FMV, it's not CG, and it's not bull. No one's trying to fool you. The cutscene looks the same as the damn game does.
3. Enough about the tearing. It's so minimal, and this is a demo, it'll be gone in the finished version. But even if it wasn't it's so damn invisible, if that truly ruins what is essentially one of the most beautiful games we've ever seen, then you need to get outside more.
2. Stop complaining about the opening cutscene. It's a pre-recorded video rendered using realtime in-game assets. It's not FMV, it's not CG, and it's not bull. No one's trying to fool you. The cutscene looks the same as the damn game does.
3. Enough about the tearing. It's so minimal, and this is a demo, it'll be gone in the finished version. But even if it wasn't it's so damn invisible, if that truly ruins what is essentially one of the most beautiful games we've ever seen, then you need to get outside more.