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[linsivvi]

Today I learned pyramid schemes are based on science.

No, but both pyramid schemes and science are evil and should be banned.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Every single person on this board could probably get at least 40/50 without looking at a single poll.

I literally don't know how to respond to this.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Every single person on this board could probably get at least 40/50 without looking at a single poll.

i doubt every person on this board could correctly name 40/50 states

 

[Extollere]

No, you need a provisional ballot.

Why? If they push a provisional on me again, and I'm registered to vote at that location, I feel like I'm just gonna walk out.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Every single person on this board could probably get at least 40/50 without looking at a single poll.

9/10 then in swing states, not too shabby.

Why? If they push a provisional on me again, and I'm registered to vote at that location, I feel like I'm just gonna walk out.

Exactly what they want you to do.

 

[BolognaSoup]

i doubt every person on this board could correctly name 40/50 states

That's probably true.

 

[BertramCooper]

I hear the jury's still out on science...

 

[Battersea Power Station]

I posted this on Facebook this morning, and I never post stuff on Facebook... I hope it reaches at least one person on the fence.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?st...ent&actorid=1123087302&__user=100001701034966

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

I don't see how that makes 49/50 any less impressive. "Guess" ten coin flips and see how well you do.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Gallup:

RV 49-46 O
LV 49-48 R

From PoliGAF.

 

[Effect]

I'm thinking the reaction will be something akin to this:

This comic strip is still great after all these years.

 

[Levi]

Here's the best part, his vote counts as much as yours.

I live in California, my vote doesn't count.

 

[SteveWinwood]

I live in California, my vote doesn't count.

I remember prop 8.

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Those that they religiously follow Silver's blog seem like ones that would fall for pyramid schemes.

"See, look at how high that percentage is! He can't possibly lose. And this is based off of statistics and models and stuff. That's science, right there. You can't lose against science."

Yeah man science is all a lie. Or something.

 

[pigeon]

Yeah man science is all a lie. Or something.

SomethingWicked's really come out as the star anti-science poster since the 538 attacks began.

 

[SteveWinwood]

Just found out my polling place is at a gun club... okay.

 

[Juice]

The more delusional the better the tears

Guys, the 81% won't be crying anything other than "foul!"

Be prepared for months of conspiracy theories that the election was rigged.

Just found out my polling place is at a gun club... okay.

Mine's a mosque! It all evens out.

 

[Rentahamster]

But that's really awful. The priority of the opposition should be to try and make sure they themselves aren't a one termer... by helping out the American people and doing good legislation.

The second we give a party a pass for throwing the American people under the bus in order to make the opposition look bad so they could install their own leader, is the second our entire democracy is at risk.

Forgot to add a followup of an example from the real world. The Democratic version of "gonna make sure he's a one termer", if you will.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/reid-laughable-for-romney-to-say-dems-will

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid rejects Mitt Romney's claim that he'll be a more successfully bipartisan President than Barack Obama has been -- particularly given how controversial his agenda is.

“Mitt Romney’s fantasy that Senate Democrats will work with him to pass his 'severely conservative' agenda is laughable," he said.

“Senate Democrats are committed to defending the middle class, and we will do everything in our power to defend them against Mitt Romney’s Tea Party agenda.”

Which goes back to:

What complicates things is that one party's notion of throwing the people under the bus is the other party's notion of a really good policy.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Just found out my polling place is at a gun club... okay.

mine is at a church lol

 

[APF]

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Woah, weren't you a prolific poster back in the old days of GAF's political discussions?

Yeah for a few years

I have no clue what that has to do with statewide opinion polling.

I have no idea what it has to do with omelets, so I guess we're even.

 

[pigeon]

mine is at a church lol

Super common, because churches have the common factors of a) having big open spaces designed both for people and for large objects and b) not being all that busy Tuesday.

 

[Dash27]

Just found out my polling place is at a gun club... okay.

Hope you're voting for the right guy.

As for all the science math Silver talk, a little something for everyone

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/11/04/tarnished-silver-assessing-the-new-king-of-stats/

The situation is that many of Nate Silver’s attackers don’t really know what the hell they are talking about. Unfortunately, this gives them something in common with many of Nate Silver’s defenders, who greet any objection to his standing or methods with cries of “Are you against SCIENCE? Are you against MAAATH?” If science and math are things you do appreciate and favour, I would ask you to resist the temptation to embody them in some particular person. Silver has had more than enough embarrassing faceplants in his life as an analyst that this should be obvious.

 

[satori]

Dont know why but I am feeling excited/nervous for this election. A good friend of mine told me some iffy/shade things about his county (he lives in Florida). Apparently the lines to vote will be like 7 hours, and they are cutting the voting times? Not sure if true but that is shady as hell >.>

The biggest turn off for me this year during this elections beside the horrible lies and flip flops has to be the attempt to change/tamper with the voting rules. Sucks that I have class all day and work all night tomorrow...Maybe I might call in just see wtf is gonna happen haha.

 

[darkside31337]

Just found out my polling place is at a gun club... okay.

 

[Dash27]

mine is at a church lol

Mine is a Church as well, and they will be fired up to vote for Obama if 2008 is any indication. Hmm unless it doesnt have the power back yet, I'm in NJ.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Yeah for a few years

Your posts always stood out to me for some reason. Can't remember why.

 

[Clydefrog]

Just found out my polling place is at a gun club... okay.

hahahaha

 

[RDreamer]

Forgot to add a followup of an example from the real world. The Democratic version of "gonna make sure he's a one termer", if you will.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/reid-laughable-for-romney-to-say-dems-will
Which goes back to:

So your example of throwing the American people under the bus and not compromising on the Dem side is Reid saying he isn't going to be a part of passing a far right extreme agenda?

Also, I'd like to point out that if Romney wins, that means that the strategy of obstructing everything and never compromising works, and that'd be why the democrats would largely copy that strategy. You do realize that's what I was saying, right?

 

[Piecake]

Hope you're voting for the right guy.

As for all the science math Silver talk, a little something for everyone

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/11/04/tarnished-silver-assessing-the-new-king-of-stats/

His predictions are based completely on polls, data, and stats, and his model has been quite accurate in 2008 and 2010. And if youre about to point out his terrible Britain prediction, then youd be wrong, since that is a completely separate model that obviously didnt work

If Nate Silver is wrong, all of the polls this year were simply weighted wrong.

 

[BertramCooper]

I don't think I've ever not voted at a church.

Well, other than voting early, of course. My poll locations have always been churches.

 

[BobTheFork]

What's a good election day snack?

I'm off tomorrow so I will probably be at a friends house drinking and playing pinball. We're going to have the election on most of the day. We need liquor and food suggestions.

I'm thinking Johnny Walker Black and Ethiopian food.

He wants to make meatballs with mini flags in them and whitebread.

Maybe we are trying too hard.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

I don't think I've ever not voted at a church.

Well, other than voting early, of course. My poll locations have always been churches.

Mine has always been a public elementary school until this year.
Church is kind of weird to me because at mass this Sunday the priest all but told us that we should pray for Romney to win the election because of their weird obsession with social issues.

 

[Takamura-San]

What's a good election day snack?

I'm off tomorrow so I will probably be at a friends house drinking and playing pinball. We're going to have the election on most of the day. We need liquor and food suggestions.

I'm thinking Johnny Walker Black and Ethiopian food.

He wants to make meatballs with mini flags in them and whitebread.

Maybe we are trying too hard.

If romney wins:

If obama wins:

 

[Jackben]

What's a good election day snack?

I hear crow tastes quite good if you're republican.

 

[pigeon]

Hope you're voting for the right guy.

As for all the science math Silver talk, a little something for everyone

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/11/04/tarnished-silver-assessing-the-new-king-of-stats/

I do actually find this article pretty interesting, but I think it's fundamentally incorrect to say that the only practical tests are Presidential elections -- there's the Senate and the House as well, of course, and he has done pretty well on those. More to the point, though, as the article notes, it's not really about the magic 538 model -- because the projection on 538 is just a collation of the existing polling data. Anybody can do an average of polls. All the poll averages show more or less the same thing. I'd be happy to entertain discussion of the weaknesses in polling aggregation or the specific quibbles with 538's model, but first you actually have to provide some.

edit:

If Nate Silver is wrong, all of the polls this year were simply weighted wrong.

No, this is the 2008 turnout fallacy, which I've already addressed. If Romney wins it means the polls were all conducted wrong.

 

[Rentahamster]

So your example of throwing the American people under the bus and not compromising on the Dem side is Reid saying he isn't going to be a part of passing a far right extreme agenda?

What complicates things is that one party's notion of throwing the people under the bus is the other party's notion of a really good policy.

Also, I'd like to point out that if Romney wins, that means that the strategy of obstructing everything and never compromising works, and that'd be why the democrats would largely copy that strategy. You do realize that's what I was saying, right?

Most of you think that it's highly unlikely that Romney will win.

But even if he does, obstructionism from congress isn't the sole reason why.

 

[Piecake]

Mine has always been a public elementary school until this year.
Church is kind of weird to me because at mass this Sunday the priest all but told us that we should pray for Romney to win the election because of their weird obsession with social issues.

isnt that illegal?

 

[Fenderputty]

My wife called me this morning saying, "I thought you told me the race was looking good for Obama? The news this morning is all about how close it is and how it's a virtual tie!"

I sent her to 538 and told her to calm down.

 

[BobTheFork]

I hear crow tastes quite good if you're republican.

lol good answer.

My wife called me this morning saying, "I thought you told me the race was looking good for Obama? The news this morning is all about how close it is and how it's a virtual tie!"

I sent her to 538 and told her to calm down.

I did the same thing for my Mother. She has been worried about the race. Honestly I wasn't until today and now I'm freaking out. Just too much vile speach and possible voter suppression. I think the people who are HONESTLY convinced Mittens can only lost by fraud are going to cause problems.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

isnt that illegal?

no but it is highly offensive.

 

[140.85]

From the image threads

 

[border]

So if Romney were to win Ohio but Obama were to take Florida, who is in a better position?

 

[Piecake]

no but it is highly offensive.

Hrmm, thought that was a sure-fire way that a church would lose its tax-exempt status (even though that will never happen)

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Hrmm, thought that was a sure-fire way that a church would lose its tax-exempt status (even though that will never happen)

you pretty much just answered your own question

 

[GregLombardi]

So if Romney were to win Ohio but Obama were to take Florida, who is in a better position?

Obama.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Why? If they push a provisional on me again, and I'm registered to vote at that location, I feel like I'm just gonna walk out.

Provisional ballots count just as much as non-provisionals. It's making a stink over nothing, really.

Obama.

Obama winning any of FLOHVA practically means he will win the election.

 

[Rentahamster]

isnt that illegal?

Sorta. Part of being a tax exempt entity is that you can't endorse a candidate. But plenty of them do it anyway.

It kinda depends on how explicit they are in it. "wink wink nudge nudge" kinda stuff might not be direct enough.

 

[Omegasquash]

My wife called me this morning saying, "I thought you told me the race was looking good for Obama? The news this morning is all about how close it is and how it's a virtual tie!"

I sent her to 538 and told her to calm down.

My theory is that most news agencies are finding that projections are neck in neck to keep ratings nice and high.

 

[Gary Whitta]

So if Romney were to win Ohio but Obama were to take Florida, who is in a better position?

FL has more electoral votes than OH so Obama. Most of the analyses I've seen that put all the importance on OH seem to be based on the assumption that Romney takes FL. Correct me if I'm wrong but if Obama actually wins FL Romney's paths to 270 are really really limited.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Yeah for a few years




I have no idea what it has to do with omelets, so I guess we're even.

Whoa, where have you been? Welcome back. I actually mean that even though I disagree with pretty much everything you say