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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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I'm all for Gary Johnson. Straight shooter and a Libertarian. While I am a Libertarian I would still vote for the best candidate and not my party affiliation - so if its him vs someone better - I vote better - but Gary is a good dude so he's on the up in my book.
I think that's a pretty good call with Marco Rubio. He'll appeal to Latinos, especially south Florida, and he's young. I can't find anything on what he's done since he's been in office though.
As for Jeb, I grew up with him as Governor of Florida and the whole 2000 election thing (along with Terry Schiavo), really left a bad taste in my mouth. I think I've had enough of the Bushs and I don't think he really contributes as a candidate. Then again, if GW can serve two terms, Jeb is a definite possibility.
Joe Biden - I hope not. He's good as a VP, but I can't see him as being neutral enough to be a good president.
Bobby Jindal - First I've heard of him, will check him out.
Chris Christie - I don't know, he's facing a lot of backlash at the moment. I guess he has 4 years to define himself.
Yeah, I agree with you about Warren. She's coming into the game a bit late. I think she'd be a much better asset for the democrats in the Senate. She's just so popular right now.
Amy Klobuchar - Never heard of her. Will check her out.
You know, I never really looked into him or the Libertarian party. Just from what I've read on wiki he seems like a pretty level-headed guy. I will look into him a bit more.
Hellsing321
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That guy is adorable! Would be awesome having a donkey at the White House.
Terribleness
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i wanted to enjoy n laugh at all this. theres plenty to enjoy (the tears, GOP members admitting they have a TP problem).
however, seeing SO many members of the Right doubling down gets me tight.. specially watching fox news.. WTH is wrong with them. some of these people have to be somewhat educated. They see the other news, they have teams. Media Consultants, producers, lawyers, etc.. which means they're spewing this crap on purpose. they can't be so dense.. i try to find the humor but it mostly angers and annoys me lol..
Ignatz Mouse
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Urgh... this sounds a lot like something O'Reilly himself might say.
Obama's team did a pitch-perfect job of taking anti-Romney threads that were already in the public consciousness through previous runs + the primaries and hammering those messages home with no real opposition. I think there's definitely some strong residual, "president Hope-and-Change isn't supposed to do that" going on, from folks who clearly forget the 04 D primaries.
Ah man, I don't know. He's good on civil liberties and I applaud his determination to balance the budget, but man, he's hardcore when it comes to taxes. I don't think I agree with his willingness to allow states to bankrupt themselves or cut social programs like Social Security and Medicare. Will keep looking into him though.
If the Republicans want to win Hispanics they'll nominate Jeb Bush.
He's the only one who has a chance at stealing a large number of them, and yes that includes Rubio. I'm just not sure how the rest of the country reacts to another Bush running.
Jeb is far more liberal and outspoken on immigration reform than Rubio is or ever has been by the way.
He's the only one who has a chance at stealing a large number of them, and yes that includes Rubio. I'm just not sure how the rest of the country reacts to another Bush running.
Jeb is far more liberal and outspoken on immigration reform than Rubio is or ever has been by the way.
not psycho
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Hmm, not sure about that. Obama had quite a few actual positions. Romney had zero, except for being anti-abortion-rights.
D: It is a moral imperative for people to have access to health care. If they have a pre-existing condition that shouldn't mean they are just out of luck. Preventative care will actually save us money by reducing emergency room dependence and unnecessarily advanced conditions, and we will be in a stronger bargaining position to lower prices.
R: I'm going to eliminate Obamacare. I agree with Obamacare. Those with pre-existing conditions should be covered. I cover them. I don't cover them.
D: Tax rates are too low on the most wealthy. They need to be raised to Bill Clinton era levels. Historically, we can see such tax rates are correlated with an improved economy. Right now the most wealthy are sitting on their money because the middle class is gutted and the middle class is what drives growth. Spending cuts are also needed, but certain cuts like education would be counterproductive because they are investments in the future.
R: I will lower taxes for everyone. I will not lower taxes for the most wealthy. I will lower taxes for the middle class. The most wealthy will pay the same percentage of total taxes. That means I will lower their taxes. But I won't. I will refuse even a 10 to 1 ratio of spending cuts to revenue increases. I will cut loopholes but I won't tell you which ones. I like money, and you will like money will be better.
D: Government should stay out of a woman's body. That is her private space. Women have the right to equal pay.
R: Women can be let off work early to go make dinner. But if they don't submit to an extremely invasive and permanent physical change at our insistence, we'll have to lock them up.
Do you have facts to back that up? Seems like a pretty big accusation, where husbands that are Republican tell their wives what to do and women who are Republican are simply sheep.
Dreams-Visions
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The Bush name is poison, bro. Yea, he's the only smart one of the bunch, but it doesn't matter.
Thank you, and he wasn't white.
I don't think he'd win the election, but I do think he could make a decent dent in Hispanic support that could carry over afterward if the party continued following his lead.
I wouldn't expect them to do that, though, since they would probably take his loss as proof there's no winning in going that way.
He wasn't even a he.
That map is really inaccurate, Korey. Civil War didn't start in 1846, so it's not a Civil War map. California was part of Mexico until a later date. The Nebraska Territory was created in 1854. Utah territory didn't exist until 1850.
Sorry dude
That and Kansas voted to be a free state. Which makes all the people around here with Confederate flags even more sad.
That map is really inaccurate, Korey. Civil War didn't start in 1846, so it's not a Civil War map. California was part of Mexico until a later date. The Nebraska Territory was created in 1854. Utah territory didn't exist until 1850.
Sorry dude
Yes, but the chief inaccuracy is that it should say 1856.
reggieandTFE
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West Virginia broke off from Virginia because of the Civil War and yet I found more confederate flags there per capita than any othe state I've been too.
HP_Wuvcraft
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That's not how this works.
You can't just have a president just because you write it in.
Plus.
God doesn't really deal with us if he exists at all. Or are you suggesting that God would come down and campaign?
I can't just write it 'rock' and a rock will become president.
Political cartoonist tears:
(this is the guy who did that police officers shooting chimp cartoon a couple years ago; he was CONVINCED Romney was going to sweep it)
How are those even considered funny?
Xplatformer
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Any site post a stream of the entire election night coverage? I want to watch it again.
Aye. He needs to iron out a few wrinkle for sure - I really can't see that flying with everyone but he's on the right track with a majority of issues. He would still bring a breath of much needed fresh air if he tries to run Rep again. I see him as someone who would be rather easy to compromise with - I will be keeping tabs on him for the future. Rounding out a few of those jagged edges and he'd be a good candidate.
heliosRAzi
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Because Obama
DrForester
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Someone asked for this last night after I mentione dit on the news, but here's an official source on Colorado Governor Hickenlooper's comments about the Marijuana amendment. Worth noting that he was publicly against it.
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/11/john_hickenlooper_amendment_64_cheetos_goldfish.php
http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2012/11/john_hickenlooper_amendment_64_cheetos_goldfish.php
That's a badass shower curtain.
This ongoing suggestion that Obama has now divided the country whereas Romney would not have is laughable given by definition winning the election means he has support of more of the people than the losing opponent.
Though math and logic have not been factored into many Republican talking points over the last few years, so of course unsurprising.
Though math and logic have not been factored into many Republican talking points over the last few years, so of course unsurprising.
HP_Wuvcraft
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I can see that we're stalking the election-related threads tonight in fear that people might discuss Romney.
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I hope someone links the clip of Maddow that everyone's talking about when it eventually gets uploaded to somewhere.
I would love for Warren to be on the ticket and win, but it seems so hopeless for her to get nominated or win in the USA as it is.
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BadAss2961
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I'm watching the replay of her show on MSNBC and just saw it. That shit was so real.
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And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
If I see a repetitive theme in people's criticism, it's that the welfare slugs are always looking for more and Obama's the guy to give it to them.
Help me out, didn't these people get the same benefit from Bush's government? Or did Obama drastically expand welfare benefits or something?
Help me out, didn't these people get the same benefit from Bush's government? Or did Obama drastically expand welfare benefits or something?
Right. Science is a trick. Maths is a trick. Everything modern science created are illusions.
A man tells you that 2+2=4 and a bunch of stupid conservative pundits laughed at the man and now that he's been proven right it's just a card trick? Way to discredit logic and reason.
Disgusting.
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rohlfinator
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There are more people on welfare due to the recession, and I think Obama expanded unemployment benefits somewhat, but it's mostly BS to play into the "Obamacare is making us a socialist nation" meme.
It's also a convenient scapegoat they can use to avoid admitting that their platform is the problem.
yep.
god forbid he help people who lost their jobs because of Bush's disaster of a crony administration helping to ruin the economy
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