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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected
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I Got an Idea for Obama.
If the medical industry doesnt play ball with him, he can using executive order, remove all those nice EMTALA (the Monlopoly protection and double counting stuff) stuff Regan put in place in the 80's. You know what that does though? Saves the economy. If they do play ball and they some how this medical industry weasels there way out... you now what happens? Single Payer. What Happens to the economy? SAVED.
If the medical industry doesnt play ball with him, he can using executive order, remove all those nice EMTALA (the Monlopoly protection and double counting stuff) stuff Regan put in place in the 80's. You know what that does though? Saves the economy. If they do play ball and they some how this medical industry weasels there way out... you now what happens? Single Payer. What Happens to the economy? SAVED.
The health insurance and provider industry has been spending the last three years spending an ass ton of money to be ready for the ACA. They're in.
I went to a conference in 2010 with a Motorola Comm. technologies guy that was talking about the amount of money that BCBS had invested to get ready for an influx of new patients.
Lets hope thats the case... It seems somebody (From Google No Less) Is ready.
None of those reasons are why I don't care for her, I lost a lot of appreciation for both Hillary and Bill for their actions in the '08 primary season. Really bad behavior, the kind of wink/nod fear mongering we normally ascribe to Republicans. I'll vote for her if she's the 2016 candidate, but I'm never going to completely get over it.
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gains more hispanic votes (though I wouldn't personally vote for him considering the people he'd have to align himself with to win)
Too bad he didn't do anything about it when he was in office.
Why do you think health is the fastest growing sector in management consulting for the third year in a row?
To be fair, nobody was expecting a single-term African-American Senator from Illinois to create a maelstrom of hope that carried him to the Presidency over Hillary fucking Clinton.
The absolute highlight of the year so far for me was watching Rove twist in the wind on election night. Turd blossom indeed.
I hope Hillary runs in 2016. I voted for her in the primaries in '08 but wasn't upset when Obama won out. I wasn't happy with the way she and Bill ran the campaign, hopefully they've both learned from that.
DrForester
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Out of curiosity, what didn't you like about it? I thought Obama ran a much more brutal campaign against Hilary, than Hilary did against Obama.
Deified Data
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Possibly, though if this were his sole motivation wouldn't all Republicans support it?
twinturbo2
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Saint Lucie County will recount 37K early voting ballots tomorrow morning. The results are already submitted to the state, though. Patrick Murphy won and Allen West is a sore loser.
http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/...ucie-county-schedules-recount-of-early-votes/
http://www.postonpolitics.com/2012/...ucie-county-schedules-recount-of-early-votes/
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The Autumn Wind
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Stumpokapow
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IMHO, I don't ascribe any of that to Hillary or Barack. Hillary was an establishment candidate who staffed a campaign designed for a clear ride to the convention. She had a firewall of superdelegates, and such a commanding vote lead in primaries that she felt safe. Obama won based on an insurgent campaign--the only kind of campaign he could have won, given his limited name recognition and beltway support at the beginning--that threw out the rules for campaigning and primaries and focused on the most narrowly tailored way to the nomination. He got there on the backs of caucuses (which work better for the kind of dark horse candidate he was near the beginning) and really only competing in select primaries. Even by the end, when he had all the momentum and he was the obvious nominee, it still took a very long time for the superdelegates to start peeling off.
I think a Hillary 2008 general wouldn't have suffered from this, and I think a Hillary 2016 primary wouldn't either, both because she's not likely to face such a strong insurgent, and because I think her campaign will be more acutely aware of how to game the system.
I actually don't pay an enormous amount of attention to primaries at all so my read here might be wrong. The only one I followed intently was Gore/Bradley, which was pretty short and sweet. I started to follow Bush/McCain and kinda realized that primaries are the worst of politics and I had no interest in them.
This could well be the case, although I will say, Roosevelt's were special circumstances. By the end of his second term, he was psychologically very close to running a third time. Even before leaving the WH, he regretted his decision. Taft, for his part, only ever wanted to be Chief Justice. But yes, you're right, Roosevelt was famously mercurial in his responses to people, and I think other presidents would have kept a lid on shit a little better... Term limits help moot the main concern, though--I mean, the fear for Taft was (correctly!) that Roosevelt would waltz back into elected politics. That's impossible today, so ex-presidents are forcibly confined to the Elder Statesman role.
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Why are they even giving in to this psycho's requests? The margin was larger than what's required for a recount. Why do I feel Rick Scott is behind this?
Well, the secret Muslim stuff can be traced back to that period. I don't believe they ever took responsibility for it but that Kenyan photo came out at an opportune time for her. Her campaign slung a lot of mud back then.
Gary Whitta
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Aside from that David Simon blog this is the best post-election piece I've read; Frank Rich on the alternate GOP reality that led to their downfall.
http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/gop-denial-2012-11/
Really interesting to see the schism now developing on the right. Many still living in fantasyland, in denial, looking to blame everything except their party's diminishing appeal in a changing America. Others realizing that a change in attitude is desperately needed to avoid political extinction. Very telling to see Boehner basically disowning the Tea Party and actually talking about bipartisan cooperation this week, and even Hannity suddenly has developed a more "evolved" position on immigration.
http://nymag.com/news/frank-rich/gop-denial-2012-11/
Really interesting to see the schism now developing on the right. Many still living in fantasyland, in denial, looking to blame everything except their party's diminishing appeal in a changing America. Others realizing that a change in attitude is desperately needed to avoid political extinction. Very telling to see Boehner basically disowning the Tea Party and actually talking about bipartisan cooperation this week, and even Hannity suddenly has developed a more "evolved" position on immigration.
Great article. A nice quick summary of some of the current illogical stupidity and extremism not only expressed, but also promoted by the current GOP party.
Ugh, had some customers at work (republicans) going on and on about how the dollar will be worth nothing in a couple years and how we should go back to the gold standard. Followed by how Obama is having an affair, and a multitude of other equally ridiculous accusations and ideas regarding the election/politics.
On the other hand its been very very enjoyable listening to nearly every person where I work bitch and complain about it all. Just such salty delicious tears everywhere. WAY more than the last election. I think the big difference is just how convinced they were in Romney winning, and having no idea they would get destroyed.
On the other hand its been very very enjoyable listening to nearly every person where I work bitch and complain about it all. Just such salty delicious tears everywhere. WAY more than the last election. I think the big difference is just how convinced they were in Romney winning, and having no idea they would get destroyed.
what is that even distorted for, why is maine massive?
Center right country huh.
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Obama having an affair? LOL
A lot of those going crazy over Obama being re-elected sound like Glenn Beck followers.
A lot of those going crazy over Obama being re-elected sound like Glenn Beck followers.
It's divided by counties and stretched due to population.
That's all of New England, not just Maine
. The map is resized according to county population.Gary Whitta
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Ars Technica has an even more detailed dissection of the Romney election-day systems meltdown:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/inside-team-romneys-whale-of-an-it-meltdown/
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/inside-team-romneys-whale-of-an-it-meltdown/
Maine is actually tiny on that map. Massachusetts is massive.
Gary Whitta
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Another good smackdown piece:
http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/0...republican-strategist-regarding-white-people/
http://www.ericgarland.co/2012/11/0...republican-strategist-regarding-white-people/
This
So very much this.
For the life of me, this has been the most intriguing part of the fall-out. Not them going back to the drawing board and trying to be more inclusive, but instead doubling down and saying you are either with us or some dumb, idiot, who is God-less and ruined the country.
andthebeatgoeson
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I haven't seen this many people excited about gold since black people in the 80's.
That's racist.
I believe in Nate Silver.
SouthernDragon
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Oblivion, can you please stop trolling OT political threads? Please? It's stupid.
You're a good poster, go back to doing what you did.
You're a good poster, go back to doing what you did.
Freshmaker
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Nah. It'll be Hickenlooper.
And pooping Florida.
Nah. Florida looks like a penis. The blue-ish tip looks like it has a large, open urethra.
BuggyDClown
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Hahahaha. Wow. We have gone off the deep end. Lets face it, if Hillary runs it's over. 3 terms dem. I'm not even slightly concerned on this, it will be glorious.
Beyond that conjecture let's just give ourself another year or so before we start worrying about who the possible nominees VP will be.
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