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United States Election: Nov 6, 2012 |OT| - Barack Obama Re-elected

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Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
CNN still pimping out the undecideds for clicks. If you don't have a clue at this point just fucking stay home.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/05/politics/undecided-voters-decisions/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

The only reason these people will vote is because they are on CNN. Moreover, they know who they are voting for, they're just saying they aren't to be on CNN even more.

The Onion has this covered:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/undecided-voter-pretty-sure-hes-some-kind-of-idiot,30229/
 

F#A#Oo

Banned
So I'm following coverage mostly from the UK and I'm surprised how the media here are saying it's a close one...

I don't know how any sane American could vote for the Republican party...:shrug:
 

tuffy

Member
Wow just saw 5 pro-Romney SuperPAC ads in the past 4 minutes on ABC (live in PA)
You're not the only one seeing a lot of them. I've read that the Romney campaign has been sitting on a lot of cash for a long time, presumably to unleash this last-minute torrent of advertising. But given the level of campaign ads already saturating the airwaves for every representative, sheriff and dog-catcher, I think that's a poor strategic decision.
 

stufte

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So I'm following coverage mostly from the UK and I'm surprised how the media here are saying it's a close one...

I don't know how any sane American could vote for the Republican party...:shrug:

It has to be "close" otherwise the networks won't have a show to put on for the advertisers.
 

Eusis

Member
You're not the only one seeing a lot of them. I've read that the Romney campaign has been sitting on a lot of cash for a long time, presumably to unleash this last-minute torrent of advertising. But given the level of campaign ads already saturating the airwaves for every representative, sheriff and dog-catcher, I think that's a poor strategic decision.
Yeah, I think most people make up their minds on the candidates far in advance, and will focus more on local issues closer to the election. Depending on what there is the vote for, California is a storm of ballots.
 

Kusagari

Member
So I'm following coverage mostly from the UK and I'm surprised how the media here are saying it's a close one...

I don't know how any sane American could vote for the Republican party...:shrug:

35-40% of the country would vote for a dead corpse over Obama.
 

F#A#Oo

Banned
35-40% of the country would vote for a dead corpse over Obama.

The coverage has actually been quite funny...I don't know if it's intentional but when they interview people from Republican rallies...they seem to get some hilarious responses. Like global warming deniers...Obama not being Christian...and Obamacare crippling the economy...
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Yeah, I think most people make up their minds on the candidates far in advance, and will focus more on local issues closer to the election. Depending on what there is the vote for, California is a storm of ballots.

California will turn out 80% to vote down a tax increase to pay for a social program they voted in two years earlier but at the same time vote largely for Democrats.

No one in the media fell for the Romney internals "leak" right? Well outside of Fox News I assume.

No because internals released by campaigns are really poor predictors of actual voting, and it would make them look really bad to sponsor blatantly partisan polling.
 

Pctx

Banned
I don't care who you vote for as long as you vote. My opinion is that Mitt has a chance and has a plan to turn this trainwreck around that has been on course for the past 12 years. My conviction is that my son Jonah grows up in a better America than I grew up, not worse. Where words matter and promises mean something. A place where freedom isn't threatened but encouraged. A place where overwhelming debt and a government that finances our future at the cost of our livelihood isn't politicized but is taken on with aggressiveness. The bottom line: We have been leaderless for the past 4 years....and it is time we have real leadership in this country again.

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Be fun to see what people say.
 
The coverage has actually been quite funny...I don't know if it's intentional but when they interview people from Republican rallies...they seem to get some hilarious responses. Like global warming deniers...Obama not being Christian...and Obamacare crippling the economy...

As an American, the current state of the Republican Party is terrifying. They need to get blown out in a few elections to reel them back in to something not so insane. The thought of what a republican run executive and legislative branch would do right now is too much to think about.
 

VALIS

Member
After participating in both the '04 and '08 elections here (not to mention the mid-terms), this should probably be in the OP to help ease the freakouts a little.

REMEMBER: Rural district (majority Republican) results always seem to get tallied first. Urban districts (majority Democrat) usually don't start getting their results tallied until after their polls are closed. A LOT OF BATTLEGROUND STATES WILL TREND RED EARLY ON. RELAX.
 

Link

The Autumn Wind
I don't care who you vote for as long as you vote. My opinion is that Mitt has a chance and has a plan to turn this trainwreck around that has been on course for the past 12 years. My conviction is that my son Jonah grows up in a better America than I grew up, not worse. Where words matter and promises mean something. A place where freedom isn't threatened but encouraged. A place where overwhelming debt and a government that finances our future at the cost of our livelihood isn't politicized but is taken on with aggressiveness. The bottom line: We have been leaderless for the past 4 years....and it is time we have real leadership in this country again.

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Be fun to see what people say.
It's cute how you make sure to trace the financial crisis far back enough to where you can blame Clinton for it.
 

Hari Seldon

Member
The only thing I care about tomorrow is seeing if a state actually legalizes weed. Presidential election is turd vs douche and I'm not voting for either. I might go to vote simply to vote out Bob Casey but I'm not that motivated to go just for that.
 
After participating in both the '04 and '08 elections here (not to mention the mid-terms), this should probably be in the OP to help ease the freakouts a little.

REMEMBER: Rural district (majority Republican) results always seem to get tallied first. Urban districts (majority Democrat) usually don't start getting their results in until after their polls are closed. A LOT OF BATTLEGROUND STATES WILL TREND RED EARLY ON. RELAX.

Plus exit polls can drive you insane.
 

Pctx

Banned
It's cute how you make sure to trace the financial crisis far back enough to where you can blame Clinton for it.

I wouldn't say that it was Clinton's fault at all.... more like he gave the ground for a time in which the economy could flourish but Bush f'ed it up.
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
I plan on voting first thing in the morning tomorrow then will proceed to go to sleep till about 9 in the evening. Easiest way to avoid all the drama.
 
So I'm following coverage mostly from the UK and I'm surprised how the media here are saying it's a close one...

I don't know how any sane American could vote for the Republican party...:shrug:

We all gots crazies. Ours are just at peak craziness.

Hell, look how many French people voted for the FN. That's pretty fucking terrifying.
 

Salsa

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as a far away south american friend that realizes that the outcome of this election has a real weight on my life as it defines one of the most powerful leaders in the world: good luck US-GAF, and Obama better fuckin win.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Fucking hell am I scared. I have a feeling this election more than any other is going to be a giant clusterfuck that could end very very badly.
 

Randdalf

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I don't think anyone here in the UK wants Romney to win. Obama's healthcare policies would be seen as right-wing nuttery over here, Romney's would be off the scale.
 

pigeon

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WISCONSIN

Polls close: 9:00 pm ET

Pundits say:
nyt said:
Wisconsin is a deeply polarized state (see, Walker, Scott). But that is fitting — the state helped give rise to both the Republican Party in 1854 and the progressive movement, through former Wisconsin Gov. Robert La Follette Sr., who was born one year later in 1855. A century or so ago, when the progressive movement and the Republican Party were close cousins, Wisconsin was a reliably red state. (It voted for the Democrat in the presidential race just twice between 1856 and 1928.) Now that these are viewed as incompatible philosophies, their sharp edges manifest themselves in different ways throughout the state.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/could-ryan-tip-wisconsin-toward-romney/

tnr said:
While Obama’s ’08 improvement in states like North Carolina and Virginia received considerable attention, Obama actually improved over Kerry’s performance in Wisconsin by 14 points, a similar margin to the two red-to-blue states.

But Obama’s gains in states like Nevada, Virginia, New Mexico, and North Carolina were primarily due to changes in the composition of the electorate and improvement among college educated whites and minorities. In Wisconsin, Obama made huge gains among white voters without a college degree—it was an impressive performance in an “old coalition” state.

Here’s a different way to look at it: there might be more Bush-Obama voters in Wisconsin than any other battleground state, with the possible exception of Colorado—where many of Obama’s converts were well-educated, social moderates outside of Denver (May it also be observed that Denver is second on the list of most saturated markets).

http://www.tnr.com/blog/electionate/108793/why-green-bay-the-most-saturated-market-in-the-country

Early voting: Wisconsin is the other swing state to allow same-day registration and early voting from the 22nd of October to November 2nd. Despite this, the Washington Post says Wisconsin early voting is down more than half, to 8.6% of the 2008 electorate from 21%. No doubt this is because the time available was halved and the last weekend was removed. With no party affiliations, it's hard to know who's leading there -- but with Obama leading in the polls pretty heavily, it hopefully won't matter much.

Voter ID: Wisconsin recently passed a voter ID law that was promptly blocked from taking effect by a state court. With the State Supreme Court declining to address the appeal before the election, the law won't take effect until next election, if at all.

Polls say: That Wisconsin isn't really a swing state. Despite the presence of Paul Ryan on the ticket, 538 shows Wisconsin as a noncompetitive state with a 4.9-point lead for President Obama. The RealClearPolitics polling average is slightly less final, with a 4.2-point lead.

Watch for: Signs of trouble. Just as North Carolina should be called quickly for Romney if he's to have a good night, Obama's expecting Wisconsin to be called rapidly when the polls close. He wants a night like 2008, where Wisconsin was called immediately when it closed, rather than a night like 2004, where it didn't get called at all. The longer it takes for him to lock it up, the worse things might look. And if he somehow loses it...

edit: 538 has run Obama's lead in Wisconsin all the way up to 5.7. That should definitely be a lead you can call early on if it holds up.

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I don't think anyone here in the UK wants Romney to win. Obama's healthcare policies would be seen as right-wing nuttery over here, Romney's would be off the scale.

The plan Obama had to settle for didn't go further because he needed a handful of republicans to vote for it.
 
This is probably later than I should be asking but...I'm a PA resident, and my voting place is kind of inconvenient to get to (I don't drive). Can I vote anywhere in the state? Or do I have to go to the designated booth?

There are some places around Pitt campus where I could go, and I'd like to if I could.

I'll vote either way, just would be far more convenient if I could vote in an area of town I'm familiar with (And where I voted last time).
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't care who you vote for as long as you vote. My opinion is that Mitt has a chance and has a plan to turn this trainwreck around that has been on course for the past 12 years. My conviction is that my son Jonah grows up in a better America than I grew up, not worse. Where words matter and promises mean something. A place where freedom isn't threatened but encouraged. A place where overwhelming debt and a government that finances our future at the cost of our livelihood isn't politicized but is taken on with aggressiveness. The bottom line: We have been leaderless for the past 4 years....and it is time we have real leadership in this country again.

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Be fun to see what people say.

They will probably get angry at the fact your rant is (probably intentionally) entirely vague references.
 

Talon

Member
You're not the only one seeing a lot of them. I've read that the Romney campaign has been sitting on a lot of cash for a long time, presumably to unleash this last-minute torrent of advertising. But given the level of campaign ads already saturating the airwaves for every representative, sheriff and dog-catcher, I think that's a poor strategic decision.
Yeah, I think most people make up their minds on the candidates far in advance, and will focus more on local issues closer to the election. Depending on what there is the vote for, California is a storm of ballots.
This is exactly what Rove's team did for Bush in 2000 to great effect in the swing states.
 

MBison

Member
Has GAF come to a consensus yet what to put the blame on should Romney win? Voter suppression? Malicious software updates? Racism? Fox News? American is stupid? I'll need to know for tomorrow night so keep me posted, thanks!
 

thirty

Banned
I don't care who you vote for as long as you vote. My opinion is that Mitt has a chance and has a plan to turn this trainwreck around that has been on course for the past 12 years. My conviction is that my son Jonah grows up in a better America than I grew up, not worse. Where words matter and promises mean something. A place where freedom isn't threatened but encouraged. A place where overwhelming debt and a government that finances our future at the cost of our livelihood isn't politicized but is taken on with aggressiveness. The bottom line: We have been leaderless for the past 4 years....and it is time we have real leadership in this country again.

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Be fun to see what people say.

so bin laden just fell down some stairs?
 

Pctx

Banned
Has GAF come to a consensus yet what to put the blame on should Romney win? Voter suppression? Malicious software updates? Racism? Fox News? American is stupid? I'll need to know for tomorrow night so keep me posted, thanks!

me
 

CHEEZMO™

Obsidian fan
Has GAF come to a consensus yet what to put the blame on should Romney win? Voter suppression? Malicious software updates? Racism? Fox News? American is stupid? I'll need to know for tomorrow night so keep me posted, thanks!

All of the above.
 
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