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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 4 - Sundays on HBO

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Forkball said:
They make it sound like the Purple Wedding episode will be amazing. He seems a bit mopey about the slowness of the series after SoS than focusing on what works and what doesn't with the season.

Also, recently I went through a round in the Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings II. I started in the Clash of Kings scenario (as everyone's favorite character DARKSTAR) that takes place near the beginning of ACoK and quit at 350AL (50 years after ACoK). The mod doesn't work now with the recent CKII update so I can't pull up specific details, but there were a few amusing things and alternate scenarios that played out:
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you can still play it just by
right click on the crusader kings 2 in steam
click on properties
go to the beta tab and opt into the 2.0.4 patch
enjoy :)

EDIT
here an image if my instruction sucks
 
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WhereAreMahDragonz

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Forkball said:
CKII just had a huge update because of a new expansion and it broke the mod. The mod often breaks when there's any sort of update so its to be expected, but the people working on it are still very active. I highly recommend it to GoT fans. There are a lot of historical scenarios to start from such as Robert's Rebellion, Feast of Crows, War of Conquest etc. Essos is in there too and in a recent update they even made the Dothrakis playable.
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That sounds incredible. I usually play with a fellow GAFfer but...he hasn't read the books so that's why I haven't done the mod yet. He's avoiding spoilers like the plague.

Once it's back up I'll play it on my own, for sure.
 
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Kain

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Forkball said:
Also, recently I went through a round in the Game of Thrones mod for Crusader Kings II. I started in the Clash of Kings scenario (as everyone's favorite character DARKSTAR) that takes place near the beginning of ACoK and quit at 350AL (50 years after ACoK). The mod doesn't work now with the recent CKII update so I can't pull up specific details, but there were a few amusing things and alternate scenarios that played out:

Robb Stark loses his independence war when Balon invades. North becomes vassals to the Iron Islands. Balon reigns as King of the Iron Islands and the North for quite a while until he dies a natural death and Theon takes over. Robb dies a natural death about 30 years later. The Iron Islands manage to conquer the Vale for a while and Victarion is Lord of the Vale for a brief time. They fail an invasion of Dorne though. Near the end, the Greyjoys are usurped by some other family and lose the title of King of the Iron Islands, but they are still hold the Kingdom in the North.

Stannis is defeated by Joffrey, but lives out the rest of his life on Dragonstone. Joffrey reigns for about 10 years until Aegon VI attacks and takes the throne from Joffrey. Joffrey rules over the Stormlands until he is mysteriously assassinated, and then Tommen is in charge.

Aegon VI marries Dany, who dies at the age of 26 from the bloody flux. The Iron Throne also controls Meereen. Aegon strips the Tyrells of Highgarden and gives it to someone else. Aegon later remarries and his heir, Aegon VII, takes over when he dies after reigning for about 30 years.

Tywin dies a natural death in 300AL. Tyrion takes over the Westerlands. Jamie has a rather crazy adventure, from being in the Kingsguard, to being a prisoner in Dorne, to eventually ruling the Westerlands. He has a daughter with some random girl named Sabrina Lannister. After the child Aegon VII becomes king, Sabrina Lannister and her allies wage a war for the throne and win. Aegon VII rules over Dorne, clamoring for his throne.

Wildlings defeat the Nights Watch and take over the wall, but don't push past the Gift. Jon Snow dies naturally after doing nothing. NW eventually retake the wall.

Loras becomes the leader of the Kingsguard and slays a dragon.

Darkstar (me) kills Sweetrobin in battle after the Iron Islands invade Dorne.

There, just saved everyone 3,000 pages worth of reading.
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OK, that was seriously amazing. All hail Darkstar!
 
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GordonHalfman

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Steelyuhas said:
"...it is unlikely this will be a fan-favorite season. Too many bad things are happening to beloved characters; too many heroes will commit ugly crimes."
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I wonder how if this is a Tyrion and Shae reference. I can see hands of gold going down pretty badly among fans, but I thought they would do something completely different with this Shae.
 
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FootballFan

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In my CK2 Game of Thrones game I took a province near Old Town and tried to marry into all the major families. I failed every single time, except the Starks.

A Stark daughter joined houses with mine. Then I proceeded to try and assasinate all the Stark heirs. Failed. (Tyrion marriage to Sansa esque)

They build up alliances with the Riverlands, came down and crushed my feeble attempts at playing the game. I died after being imprisoned. The Crown even turned on me as I had a horrible reputation for attempting to assassinate everyone, even my own siblings and liege lords.

Game is addictive and right down hilarious sometimes.

In another play through I tried to be a good version of the Freys. Managed to actually expand north without war, not much just a province or two. But then was visited by a Faceless Man. Pay your debts people.
 
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Cpt.Underpants

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Mfsy3Dw.jpg
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Been a while since Amoka worked on asoiaf art
 
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SamVimes

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WhereAreMahDragonz said:
That sounds incredible. I usually play with a fellow GAFfer but...he hasn't read the books so that's why I haven't done the mod yet. He's avoiding spoilers like the plague.

Once it's back up I'll play it on my own, for sure.
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It's divided in scenarios which means you could just play in either A Game Of Thrones scenario or the A Clash Of Kings which should be spoiler free.
Although i'm not sure if Aegon appears only in the AFFC and beyond scenarios or if he can invade in got and acok too.
 
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The Artful Dodger

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Forkball said:
CKII just had a huge update because of a new expansion and it broke the mod. The mod often breaks when there's any sort of update so its to be expected, but the people working on it are still very active. I highly recommend it to GoT fans. There are a lot of historical scenarios to start from such as Robert's Rebellion, Feast of Crows, War of Conquest etc. Essos is in there too and in a recent update they even made the Dothrakis playable.
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That's rad. I've returned to playing it quite a bit. I enjoyed the mod, hopefully they get it back up and running.
 
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Zod the Bear

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They've said that their internal build is already fixed as far as what the patch broke, but they're adding in some new features before they patch the mod.

Believe there'll be some new unit types added since the newest DLC added a system for them (they've specified Unsullied, I assume there'll be some other types too.)
 
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Credo

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I really need to get that Ice and Fire mod for Crusader Kings II to work. I tried setting it up and the game starts fine, but every time I try to start a game up, it crashes.
 
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Drazgul

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Credo said:
I really need to get that Ice and Fire mod for Crusader Kings II to work. I tried setting it up and the game starts fine, but every time I try to start a game up, it crashes.
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You'll most likely need to downgrade your CK2 version, unless they updated the mod already. Check King Allant's post above for instructions.
 
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Cornballer

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- Poniewozik's review for Time:
There is, in other words, plenty of reason to despair in the world of Game of Thrones. But there’s no call for despair in your living room; HBO’s fantasy series, returning to air April 6, is as stirring in its action, as rich in characters, and more sweeping in scope as ever. And while the ruling lions in King’s Landing are savoring their triumphs in battle, it soon becomes plain that the war–as often fought in palaces as on battlefields–is far from over.
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- WiCnet: Allen and McElhatton on Reek & Ramsay in season 4
 
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Valhelm

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Exterminieren said:
It's accurate, then.
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But Robert would have kept up appearances of being regal. Both he and Stannis are rugged, and seem to be better fighters than rulers, but he would surely have worn some kind of lavish robe. I don't understand why he's painted without a crown.
 
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Kerned

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Forkball said:
I think a lot of his portraits make the characters look like cheesy Renaissance Fair part-timers, but that picture is pretty awesome.
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I think his portrait work is terrible. I don't like the super-busy backgrounds, I don't like the cheesy Photoshop textures and effects, the blurry blending looks bad, etc. Renaissance Fair part-timers is very apt.
 
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PFD

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What’s Joffrey up to this season?
Gleeson: He’s grown up slightly. He’s perhaps emulating how his father Robert would rule, but his petulance is still there. At his heart he’s still a petulant boy and he’s still butting heads with Tyrion.
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Oh you...
 
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Iksenpets

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Kerned said:
I think his portrait work is terrible. I don't like the super-busy backgrounds, I don't like the cheesy Photoshop textures and effects, the blurry blending looks bad, etc. Renaissance Fair part-timers is very apt.
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Yeah, I've never liked it. It's always kind of bothered me that it's treated as the go-to representation for all these characters. It does have some use since it's so meticulously loyal to the book descriptions, it lets you see how ridiculous some of the characters look as described. The Daario portrait is hilarious for that factor.

The Aegon+sisters is a pretty big improvement over his older stuff though.
 
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Valhelm said:
But Robert would have kept up appearances of being regal. Both he and Stannis are rugged, and seem to be better fighters than rulers, but he would surely have worn some kind of lavish robe. I don't understand why he's painted without a crown.
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That's your own presumption. Re-read the first few chapters of AGOT. Robert is not a regal king, nor is he really described as one. Also, I think it's important to remember that kings don't always wear their crowns. It's a ceremonial piece that is usually only worn when they are holding court or during other special occasions. The portrait of Robert, IMO, it's pretty obvious that he's being illustrated in a scenario the artist had in mind. If I had to guess, I would wager a hunt, based on the gloves he is wearing.

I also don't think it's fair to give Amoka too much shit for his illustrations. GRRM is as much to blame for those "Renaissance Fair part-timer" details as anyone, based on his descriptions of his characters.
 
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negreenfield

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Cost Plus World Market to the rescue. Picked up each bottle of the new beer. Still think i'm going to drink my last Take the Black stout on Sunday though.
 
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Loke13

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Real Hero said:
Stannis would be the best king but everyone would hate him.
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All Stannis really needs is a Queen who inspires love and loyalty from the common folk much like Margery does in the show going out to different orphanages helping the poor giving out food. Let Stannis make the hard decisions.
 
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I always wondered why the Targaryen's weren't deformed monsters. You would think all those years of inbreeding would eventually take its toll.
 
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dubq

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Drake said:
I always wondered why the Targaryen's weren't deformed monsters. You would think all those years of inbreeding would eventually take its toll.
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If you're going by the real science behind it, then there isn't a guaranteed chance that inbreeding will cause recessive genes to overlap and result in birth defects. It's about 50-50. Plus, a good chunk of these kinds of birth defects are internal and not visible.

Besides that, it's been suggested that the madness that Aerys suffered from(as well as other Targaryens) was a product of the generations of inbreeding.
 
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PFD

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There are some upcoming watershed moments for Game Of Thrones, of course—in fact, the fourth season dispatches with one of them in the second episode, “The Lion And The Rose,” in grand style—
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So Joffrey dies in the second episode? Damn, I was hoping it would be this Sunday.
 
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Woorloog

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dubq said:
If you're going by the real science behind it, then there isn't a guaranteed chance that inbreeding will cause recessive genes to overlap and result in birth defects. It's about 50-50. Plus, a good chunk of these kinds of birth defects are internal and not visible.

Besides that, it's been suggested that the madness that Aerys suffered from(as well as other Targaryens) was a product of the generations of inbreeding.
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Considering how hair color seems to work in ASOIAF (not exactly super-realistic IIRC), i wouldn't be surprised if madness and other things work like it too.
 
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PhoenixDark

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Drake said:
I always wondered why the Targaryen's weren't deformed monsters. You would think all those years of inbreeding would eventually take its toll.
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While there are some deformed Targs, I wonder if Martin decided to largely replace physical deformities due to incest with mental illness. There's quite a long history of madness on the Targaryen tree, from Viserys to Aerys to Aerion.
 
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