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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 4 - Sundays on HBO
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ugh, with only one week left, i'm beginning to get paranoid and scared stoneheart will be cut/pushed into next season
don't do it
It better not, I'm guessing it'll be the last shot of the season. The fireworks it'll cause...
They really need to do it, it's a great hook for the next season.
Soyongdori
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Pretty sure they said they cut Stoneheart from the TV show.
Quick question from a non-reader who's spoiled a bit but not all - Where is the tree Bran is heading to on this map? I just wanna see how far they've traveled off screen from Craster's Keep
Also where has Mance been hiding the entire time? I know the wildlings are nomadic but they have no home city at all? Unless it's that hard home? Why not attack the north by boat then like the Ironborn? Ironborn seemed to be able to conquer half the North with just some boats and precision strikes.
WrenchNinja
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YOU LIE
The Artful Dodger
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Owl's can't count. Don't be ridiculous.
The One and Done
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GTFO. That was never confirmed. Right?
The Artful Dodger
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Source?
That one owl on the commercials only ever got to 3 and I'm pretty sure that was a college educated owl.
The Silver
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I completely forgot what Mance looked like, when is the last time we saw him?
My condolences, you should subscribe to the other thread.
m_shortpants
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m_shortpants
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If a show watcher read "Lady Stoneheart", that should honestly mean absolutely nothing.
Wait, what? When did they say this?
I assume "holy shit" means they looked itup.
m_shortpants
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Ah. Well, a self inflicted wound then.
SuperAndroid17
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From the promo .. it looks like the hound is the one rolling down the mountain.
No pun intended.
No pun intended.
The cave is somewhere within the Haunted Forest. GRRM's descriptions of travel time are inconsistent, so we don't know how far beyond the wall it is, but the Lands of Ice and Fire describe it as "South of the Antler River".
Mance just travels from village-to-village, camp-to-camp. The Wildlings have no nautical history and no knowledge of how to make ships.
AndersTheSwede
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Honestly kind of disappointed. Didn't match the scale or capture the critical moments from the book. Felt disjointed and poorly paced. I'd give them a TV mulligan if they hadn't done such a good job with the Blackwater.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
He did have the hat. But I think he could have gone higher. After all a tootsie pop was at stake and some naked kid was staring at him. He was just trying to end that shit quick.
Buckethead
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Fuck this show.
Ygritte :'(
Ygritte :'(
m_shortpants
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May want to check if you're in the right thread.
yeah, and its all over the internet. Holy motherfucking Shit. Everything connects now.
I was looking at some odd things on the maps. Why would the northmen need to cross the twins if king's road doesn't go through it?
Why didn't they march their army down king's road towards King's Landing? Were they trying to avoid the Lannister army to get to King's Landing by going the long way?
Why didn't they march their army down king's road towards King's Landing? Were they trying to avoid the Lannister army to get to King's Landing by going the long way?
Cutting Stoneheart is not a horrible idea. It gives finality to the Northern rebellion storyline and allows the showrunners to introduce human characters who will carry that banner.
Having random revenge killings from a monstrous zombie-Cat doesn't really serve the show if she's not a regular character.
Having random revenge killings from a monstrous zombie-Cat doesn't really serve the show if she's not a regular character.
They cut Coldhands. I don't think they said anything about Stoneheart (yet). Michelle Fairley has been coy.
Soyongdori
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Jon gets hit by anvil in the face and he just shrugs it off and smashes dude's head with a hammer.
Fuck the logic.
Fuck the logic.
Basically, yeah. Don't think I've ever seen battle maps, but it sounds like the Main force of the Lannister army lies near the KingsRoad further south. Going down it runs right into them (where the assuredly would be prepared for that and ambush Robb's army).
Going through the Twins (and their massive bridge that would make it easy to get an army across) allows them to go around them and attack from the back/sides.
Something like that.
Jibbajabbawockky
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The question with Stoneheart is that even if you've read the books, its not clear what her ultimate purpose in the overall story is as of yet.
Yeah, as soon as his face smacked that anvil I was half expecting Jon Snow's head to explode like Oberyn's. That looked rough and yet he barely reacted to it.
Soyongdori
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In real life, that would've been at least a skull fracture or completely broken nose and teeth.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Nope, but that and the giant shooting the arrow were pretty awesome additions though.
edit: well Jon's pretty tough, getting shot by Ygritte a few times last season didn't seem to do all that much to him after awhile, so something small like a face to an anvil should barely phase him.
Eh, the action and choreography was pretty nice, and I think they did well with Ygritte's death, but I was pretty disappointed with the episode otherwise. The TV show has just done such a piss poor job of managing all of the Wall storyline. smh. And killing off Pyp and Grenn? Wtf?
Robb was never attempting to attack King's Landing in the books after Ned was dead, iirc. He was trying to defend the North and Riverlands from the Lannister army and secede. Anyway, attacking King's Landing was not a sure fire victory and left all of his Kingdom vulnerable to the 60,000 Lannister men in the Riverlands.
Robb was never attempting to attack King's Landing in the books after Ned was dead, iirc. He was trying to defend the North and Riverlands from the Lannister army and secede. Anyway, attacking King's Landing was not a sure fire victory and left all of his Kingdom vulnerable to the 60,000 Lannister men in the Riverlands.
TestOfTide
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That was from the south.
AndersTheSwede
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I don't believe so. That was cool.
Basileus777
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They needed to cross the Twins to break Jaime's siege of Riverrun. They couldn't march to King's landing because Tywin's army was in the way and the priority was to save the Riverlands.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Either way, Mance doesn't have wargs?
Cornballer
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Buckethead
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Oh, I've read the books. Just want to vent.
I've always loved her character although I think the TV show didn't bring her to life as much as the books.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Next episode.
TestOfTide
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We could simply assume he hasn't sent any wargs to scout yet?
If I recall, in the books it was mance that asked to meet with the nights watch to negotiate the NW's surrender threatening to blow the (fake) horn and bring down the wall if the NW doesn't surrender immediately. In the books mance knew the wildlings would win if they kept pushing, but he didn't want to have to sacrifice too many wildlings from the battle and dealing with the WW in the stalled time.
BrokenEchelon
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Are you the actual buckethead?
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