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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 4 - Sundays on HBO
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WhereAreMahDragonz
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If they submitted an Emmy nomination for the last episode in the "Outstanding Prosthetic Make-up" category, doesn't that all but confirm Stoneheart? I doubt they would consider the episode for just the wights or Leaf.
It would be much easier to kill all the Freys with a drone strike over The Twins.
Lactose_Intolerant
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One of the freys would be in a horse drawn carriage and evade the missiles
I'd really advise that all people watch the show with captions on.
Damn that's a shame, completely missing out on the richness and depth of the characters. But who am I to judge heh
-Pyromaniac-
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I judge them all the time because they need to stop asking me everyone's goddamn name
Yeah. The reason everyone remembers Khaleesi is because it was always appearing in subtitles when everyone was speaking Dothraki.
The Wire. General Hospital. You know, proper juggernauts of the form.
If the Children aren't CGI, they'd probably use more intensive makeup than Stoneheart. They're essentially deer with human bodyshape.
ASOIAF wiki says that "The children were smaller than men with nut-brown skin, dappled like a deer's with paler spots. They had large ears that could hear things that no man could hear. They usually had large eyes, great golden cat's eyes, that could see down passages where a boy's eyes saw only blackness. They have vertical, slit-like pupils."
I mean come on, they should know more than just Tyrion. All the Starks and the main Lannisters at least
WhereAreMahDragonz
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If the Children aren't CGI, they'd probably use more intensive makeup than Stoneheart. They're essentially deer with human bodyshape.
ASOIAF wiki says that "The children were smaller than men with nut-brown skin, dappled like a deer's with paler spots. They had large ears that could hear things that no man could hear. They usually had large eyes, great golden cat's eyes, that could see down passages where a boy's eyes saw only blackness. They have vertical, slit-like pupils."
Just let me believe
Yeah, that's maybe a bit of my point. It would have to be extremely rushed and take way too much time from the episode to make it happen with any kind of decent pacing. Though, I guess they could really, REALLY rush it. 2-3 minute talk between Mance & Jon, commotion outside and they both run outside -> show wildlings being slaughtered for 2-3 minutes, ending with Stannis! Stannis! Stannis! -> cut away to someone else's storyline -> return to Jon's: 2 minute talk between Stannis & Jon outside -> cut to someone else's storyline -> Jon celebrating with his friends, 7 minutes from celebration to talks about a new Lord Commander to Jon being picked as the new Lord Commander. BAM, Stannis at the wall & Jon becoming the Lord Commander in 15 minutes.
Jack Scofield
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I think it's because he demands for Reek's return. But last we saw, Theon was with Stannis' army, so if Ramsey won the battle like he said, he wouldn't have to ask for Reek back.
I think. It's been awhile since I've read it.
RatskyWatsky
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I bet they won't look like that on the show though. They made the giants look like large people instead of hairy sasquatch beasts, after all.
Jibbajabbawockky
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I really doubt they'll make the children of the forest look that alien/ animal like. If you watch some of the Blu Ray histories, they show children of the forest in there (albeit in concept sort of sketches) and they basically look like regular people in sort of primitive or native american looking dress.
Aw, that's lame.
I just realized that we might be seeing Charles Dance's lion this Sunday. I'm not sure if I'm ready for that.
The Red Viper
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It is submitted for the Hound, the Mountain, Wights, and Bloodraven.
m_shortpants
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The Red Viper
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WrenchNinja
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If there's no stoneheart, heads will ducking roll
Steelyuhas
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No Stoneheart or a delayed introduction could certainly work with Season 5 Dorne leaks
Jaime going to Dorne, as he's not needed in the Riverlands, at least right right away.
SaintGalgo
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I hope Bloodraven looks... uh... "fantastical".
House Bauer is on the case
Blue Ninja
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The bells are tolling over here, and all I can think is that GRRM just killed another king.
Come on, you really don't need the books or the wiki to understand where the wall is and that the Wildlings are trying to cross it from North to South (except the Tormund/Thenn band of raiders that crossed with Jon Snow)
I'll agree that some of the more obscure concepts and theories will be hard for show watchers to grasp (R+L=J is something barely touched upon / hinted at for example)
The mixup about WW, wights, the others and "zombies" is also something I can understand to be confusing for show viewers.
Although I also had to read a wiki after reading the books to grasp stuff like the Alchemist = Jaqen H'ghar and other such concepts.
And I'll also admit to speed reading through some of the boring stuff in the books (Dany's Mereen chapters and the whole Dorne crap in AFFC and ADWD), only to read through them again more slowly + wiki assistance after finishing ADWD. (I actually appreciate the Dany mereen chapters now, especially after reading that blogpost (was posted here a couple of weeks/months ago) detailing all of the intrigue going on in Mereen)
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Found the link about Dany's time in Mereen;
http://meereeneseblot.wordpress.com...reenese-knot-part-i-who-poisoned-the-locusts/
Yeah the multitude of names are probably missable when heard, especially at scenes like Ramsay's wedding reception.
Woody Invincible
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Kaneda Shotaro
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It just hit me again that Stannis had Renly killed, his own brother. I sometimes fall into the camp that Stannis would be a good and fair king but killing your own brother? How can anyone support him?
He killed a traitor. Stannis is the one true king.
Pai Pai Master
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Well do consider the stakes at hand and the fact that Stannis warned him not to take up arms. Stannis had claim to the throne, not Renly.
Yeah it's still pretty shitty but that is the guy Stannis is. He had the claim, Renly fought it, Stannis basically disowned him as a brother.
Renly would have been a shit king anyways.
His brother was kind of in open rebellion against him, and would have killed him in battle the next day if Stannis hadn't struck first. Not saying he didn't take the less honorable path and that it wasn't a questionable move, but I don't think it's a black and white thing either.
Also in the book it always seemed like it was much more Melisandre acting on her own, and that Stannis is kind of in denial that he had any involvement at all.
Memento Mori
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Renly as king and Stannis as hand might have been the best solution for everyone.
Basileus777
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He also basically abandoned Robert to die. He knew about the incest and ran away to dragonstone rather than do anything productive with the knowledge. Well until he was rightful King, then that knowledge was conveniently useful to him.
He probably would have been a pretty decent king. I'd take Renly over almost every other candidate for the throne in the series, including Stannis who would have driven the realm apart and to war with his rigidity.
Enosh
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plus Aryn just died (iirc he ran after his death no?) in what was obviously a assassination, there is no way he would have known it was littlefinger dicking around instead of the Lannisters trying to take out people who know too much
and does anyone honestly think Robert would listen to him and believe the story?
yes because doing something worked out so well for Ned
plus Aryn just died (iirc he ran after his death no?) in what was obviously a assassination, there is no way he would have known it was littlefinger dicking around instead of the Lannisters trying to take out people who know too much
and does anyone honestly think Robert would listen to him and believe the story?
Moff
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I believe stannis will be redeemed to a certain degree. as others have pointed it, melisandre insited ok taking shireen to the wall, I'm pretty sure she wants to sacrifice her, which is the moment stannis will finally step out of her shadow. and at the same time, will give melisandre reason to doubt him and look for azor ahai elsewhere.
Basileus777
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He never even attempted to do anything. It was a pretty cowardly act.
WiC put up their tweet list for the last episode.
@CCozzetto: We are 2 minutes in and Jons hair is the clear star of this episode
@theSamwellTarly: Oh shit Aemon is Jon Snows dad. A + L = J amirite?
@feellikepdiddy: SAM AND GILLY SITTING IN A TREE, LOVE IS THE DEATH OF DUTY #RuinANurseryRhyme
@7373tinkerbell: I hope they can hold them off until dawn when gandolf comes
@theSamwellTarly: Someone call Legolas to kill that elephant thing damn.
@AngryGoTFan: AN ARROW GOING THAT SPEED WOULD FLY THROUGH A MAN NOT IMPALE HIM #NOONEUNDERSTAAANDS
@WiCThoros: #HoldTheGate
@Handsome_Jake_: Somewhere a feminist is writing an article about how Olly nodding his head after killing Ygritte was sexist.
@ThrilledGoTFan: THE CLIMB IS ALL THERE IS
@HarleyHorcrux: WHAT THE FUCK IS SHOW EVEN DOING WHY GRENN WHY PYP FUCK THIS IM FUCKING DONE
@CCozzetto: We are 2 minutes in and Jons hair is the clear star of this episode
@theSamwellTarly: Oh shit Aemon is Jon Snows dad. A + L = J amirite?
@feellikepdiddy: SAM AND GILLY SITTING IN A TREE, LOVE IS THE DEATH OF DUTY #RuinANurseryRhyme
@7373tinkerbell: I hope they can hold them off until dawn when gandolf comes
@theSamwellTarly: Someone call Legolas to kill that elephant thing damn.
@AngryGoTFan: AN ARROW GOING THAT SPEED WOULD FLY THROUGH A MAN NOT IMPALE HIM #NOONEUNDERSTAAANDS
@WiCThoros: #HoldTheGate
@Handsome_Jake_: Somewhere a feminist is writing an article about how Olly nodding his head after killing Ygritte was sexist.
@ThrilledGoTFan: THE CLIMB IS ALL THERE IS
@HarleyHorcrux: WHAT THE FUCK IS SHOW EVEN DOING WHY GRENN WHY PYP FUCK THIS IM FUCKING DONE
WrenchNinja
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You guys think they'll adapt Lyanna Mormonts letter for next season?
Meh, what could he have done then, realistically? Accusing the queen of incest would have been political suicide, so to speak. Robert and Stannis weren't exactly on speaking terms so I doubt Robert would have taken kindly to Stannis accusing his lady queen of incest and adultery ( even if he cares but little about his wife and children ). And since the evidence amounts to 'bastards looks like the father, true-born children does not' it would have taken someone very close to Robert to convince him of that, like Ned or Jon Arryn, but both made the mistake of not telling him first.
Even long before that, Robert had decided that Stannis shouldn't have Storms End and the handship. It was one slight after another. So Stannis may have decided to leave Robert to his fate, but then Robert never did right by Stannis either. Perhaps if Stannis had been the Lord of Storms End and the Hand of the King, he would have had the necessary power and influence to save Robert from Cersei's treachery, but as it stands, he wasn't in the position to do it. His best card was, it seems to me, to bid his time on Dragonstone, or share Roberts fate in the grave.
Stannis is not really as rigid as people make him out to be. He'll pardon lords were he can, or else give the lordship to more worthy people, like Davos. While some would call him iron, that'll break before he bends, he has so far shown himself to be very adaptive no matter where he is, even willingly to take the counsel of low-born and bastards, were most high-born lords, in their true rigidity, would refuse to even look at them, let alone follow their advice.
Anyway, I am hyped for the next episode.
Stannis! Stannis! STANNIS!
The other way around could have been better.
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