WhereAreMahDragonz
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But what would it change, really? People can easily search for "Game of Thrones" and find this thread if they've read the books, and otherwise they can look on the main page and find the non-book thread.
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But what would it change, really? People can easily search for "Game of Thrones" and find this thread if they've read the books, and otherwise they can look on the main page and find the non-book thread.
I guess I'm just being petty, but why do we have to go such lengths to babysit these people? Especially when their thread is borderline dead compared to this one.
This I'd be okay with, though.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I just think it's a matter of being considerate to other fans of the show. I agree that they should pay attention, and I'm only thinking in the best interests of all. If the roles were reversed, I'd like to hope that they'd do the same for us.
Shae. TV Shae is a wholly different character than Book Shae, and I think book readers are being set up for a pretty serious deviation in how the season ends.
Well, at least both don't start with the show name anymore. Baby steps people.
Ugh, this is too unnecessarily complicating things. The thread titles are already different, they just need to pay attention. We wouldn't be talking about this if people would just fucking subscribe to their respective threads. It's so fucking easy.
I'm honestly almost done caring at this point.
If they let show Shae survive, I swear to god...
Edit: come to think of it, they might have her take over Penny's role from the book. I would rage so hard
Red Arremer
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Agreed. I have no sympathy for unsullied stumbling into this thread.
What about the only one who's missing a nipple?
I think show Shae sucks, but I HATE Penny so I might actually be alright with that. I don't think it will happen though, Shae's betrayal and death are pretty important to the story.
Red Arremer
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That one's the exception.
Their reaction
Fuck, was about to post this.
I think Shae ends up in the same place, murdered by Tyrion in Tywin's bed, bud her path to getting there and her motivations will probably be pretty different.
Also, that guy who came to the wrong thread totally entered on like the worst page possible.
The Artful Dodger
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Yeah, I suggested that to Cornballer. I think it'd be easier to police one thread that way as oppose to multiple threads in OT.
Random question:
On the show, Ser Meryn Trant is portrayed as this weakling who can't hang with the best fighters in Westeros.
Bronn makes him out to be this knight in name only ("I wouldn't want to get blood all over your pretty white cloak." and calling him a grub.)
Jaime kind of makes fun of him too on the latest episode.
He's the only Lannister man who is able to trade blows with Syrio Forel though.
So which is it? Can Ser Meryn kick some ass or not?
On the show, Ser Meryn Trant is portrayed as this weakling who can't hang with the best fighters in Westeros.
Bronn makes him out to be this knight in name only ("I wouldn't want to get blood all over your pretty white cloak." and calling him a grub.)
Jaime kind of makes fun of him too on the latest episode.
He's the only Lannister man who is able to trade blows with Syrio Forel though.
So which is it? Can Ser Meryn kick some ass or not?
The Artful Dodger
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Syrio had a wooden sword though, and was completely unarmored, so I don't know if you can call that a fair fight
I wonder how Peter Dinklage will feel about the whole Penny/Essos business. I remember way back when reading about how he thought the role of Tyrion was refreshing because it wasn't the usual "midget role".
Maybe they'll alter it somewhat for him.I don't understand the Penny hate at all.
That's true. The way he calls them "bloody oafs" makes it seem like he has some skill the others lack.
Red Arremer
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Well the Kingsguard traditionally is made up out of 7 of the, if not THE best warriors in the realm. By that definition alone Ser Meryn should at least be a skilled and successful warrior. Even though he's a dick.
Ionian
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EDIT: Meaning Syrio, reading comprehension fail.
Plus you have the theory he never died and ended up as Jacques Hagar.
Jaquen H'ghar? Anyway, that's completely silly. Syrio was a water dancer, not a faceless assassin.
Or a faceless man pretending to be a water dancer in order to train Arya because it was known who she would become. He's then thrown into a dungeon where he changed his face so he wouldn't be killed. He then hooks up with Arya again and directs her down her path once again.
The Artful Dodger
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Yeah, but it's heavily implied by the beginning of the series that the Kingsguard is not what it once was, and obviously by where we are in the book, it is nowhere near a collection of the best warriors. Jaime and Ser Loras seem to be the only ones that actually belong in it, as far as martial skills go.
Folks gonna reach anyway they can to stay in denial. I like the idea of Syrio's fate being left ambiguous. There are arguments you can make for him living, but ultimately, it doesn't matter for story purposes, he's gone. As much as I like the character, it'd be too weird to bring him back as a Faceless man.
Syrio joined the faceless assassins the day before everyone started killing the Starks.
He found Ned Stark and took his place, leading everyone to believe they had executed the real Eddard.
In the series finale, Ned Stark comes out of the cave in which he's been living for 10 years and surveys all the destruction. Dragon fire, whitewalkers, no living thing remains.
Sean Bean looks at the screen and says "Finally."
He found Ned Stark and took his place, leading everyone to believe they had executed the real Eddard.
In the series finale, Ned Stark comes out of the cave in which he's been living for 10 years and surveys all the destruction. Dragon fire, whitewalkers, no living thing remains.
Sean Bean looks at the screen and says "Finally."
Red Arremer
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Of course, but even when the Kingsguard is a mere shadow of its former self, I still doubt that an incompetent fighter would be named a member of it. I want to say that in the books, he also did fairly well in the jousts, no? In the Tourney of the Hand, I think he was only beat by Loras Tyrell.
He's probably not a god tier warrior like Jaime or Loras, but I'm fairly certain that he can hold his own in a fight.
And also the mother of Jon Snow.
The Artful Dodger
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Everyone knows Syrio is actually Varys.
This is true, he was appointed before it's gone completely to shit. At least he's not a Kettleblack
This is true, he was appointed before it's gone completely to shit. At least he's not a Kettleblack
They're both bald.
Steelyuhas
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Yeah although I think the books indicate that the Kingsguard being the absolute best warriors in the realm was much truer under the Targ rule than Robert/Joffrey/Tommen (especially when Cersei starts assigning/dismissing members).
That said, I think Meryn is probably a very good sword, people just don't like him very much, so you don't see people handing out praise.
The Artful Dodger
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"Ser Robert Strong" is there.
Great, now it even has a zombie knight. Ridiculous, I say.
It's more everything surrounding that character I suppose. I don't like the notion that Tyrion is an acrobat and flips around and rides a pig or whatever. Penny just rubs me the wrong way, but maybe the show will handle that stuff in a less ridiculous manner than the book. I think most of Tyrion's storyline in ADWD is George at his very worst.
also, the real richest man in Qarth.
as for Penny... I dunno. Her character inspired more pity than hatred in me. It was a window to the life of a commoner, and a dwarf one at that. Whether GRRM was succesful with that, I guess it depends on the reader. I will say, however, that some of Tyrion's chapters in ADWD I found hard to read but I think that was the intention. Tyrion's in a very dark place (mentally/emotionally) during the events of the book, so Penny also represents a small window of hope for Tyrion's redemption.
So in a way I think some of the hatred directed at Penny is actually hatred towards Tyrion's storyline.
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WhereAreMahDragonz
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What if...Syrio was Robert Strong who was somehow made super large?
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I feel like if Syrio was black you guys wouldn't even be having this discussion.
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Seriously. What else can we do but to make an explicit thread title and post warnings on every page? I don't even get why they'd click on it if they're subscribing to the TV-only thread (which they should be).
I mean it's more likely to make the mistake the other way around, a book reader posting in the wrong thread because s/he might want to read both threads. But a non-reader should never touch this thread if they're sensitive to spoilers.
A terrible human being or not, Joffrey is still a kid/teenager that will (I guess) very graphically suffocate to death. I wouldn't be surprised if the scene is quite disturbing.
Nah, Syrio is actually Daario. You should pay more attention to the books you read, the signs are all there.
PS. These articles from Vice posted a couple of pages back are so bad, especially the first one. "No I didn't watch it, it may be good but man fantasy, these neckbeard nerds, orcs, get it? ORCS lol get a life", seems like a well-thought out opinion piece.
PPS.
The thread titles are dissimilar but man, I'd lie if I didn't accidentally wade into non-book thread once or twice. If you just skim titles on the first page it's very easy to forget about *spoiler alert* in the thread title and just dumbly click it.
Nah, Syrio is actually Daario. You should pay more attention to the books you read, the signs are all there.
PS. These articles from Vice posted a couple of pages back are so bad, especially the first one. "No I didn't watch it, it may be good but man fantasy, these neckbeard nerds, orcs, get it? ORCS lol get a life", seems like a well-thought out opinion piece.
PPS.
The thread titles are dissimilar but man, I'd lie if I didn't accidentally wade into non-book thread once or twice. If you just skim titles on the first page it's very easy to forget about *spoiler alert* in the thread title and just dumbly click it.
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