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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 4 - Sundays on HBO

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The Artful Dodger

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Dany M said:
It would be awfuly sappy and meladramatic of jorah. The books had Jorah leave because of conflicting strategy with Barristan iirc? It's been awhile since i read the books.
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That and he was "In love with her" and refused to acknowledge wrong-doings on his part (when he was found to be spying on her for Varys).
 
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scosher

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Dany M said:
It would be awfuly sappy and meladramatic of jorah. The books had Jorah leave because of conflicting strategy with Barristan iirc? It's been awhile since i read the books.
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If I recall, Dany banished him because she learned from Barristan that he was originally spying on her and sending reports to Kings Landing. Then he madea pass at her and professed his love.
 
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Masenkame

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All this spoiler talk got me thinking of policies at other forums.

If you really want to see a screwed up, hilarious, and disturbing mess of people being spoiled, check out the Something Awful forums. The front page of the forum has a subforum titled with a major spoiler, as well as the alt-text for that subforum. That subforum is already a notorious den of savagery, and folks from it are invading other subforums for even more silly antics.

A tactic that has continued from last year is the malicious changing of people's avatars to spoilers, facilitated by SA's built in pay-to-change avatar system, which is usually used to shame posters for ignorant and disgusting behavior. People are also buying new usernames to post spoilers before they are banned.

The TV subforum has two threads for the show, one for book readers and one for show-only watchers. The show-only thread was hit by that avatar spoiler business, as well as the normal drive-by spoiler posting, usually from those crazy subforums. Their tactic of disabling avatars was sound, until there were people posting spoilers in signatures and using images as well, which I probably shouldn't link. People have somewhat given up and are resigned to the fact that the show-only thread is going to have spoilers no matter what.

The moderators are doing what they can, but it's still a minefield there. They've had to close threads for a bit, just to sort it all out. Somehow spoilers are also making their way to the banned user list, where the reason for banning contains text and images of spoilers. The book-reader thread in the TV subforum has a lot of nice folks lamenting all this craziness.

Last thing of interest to note is the presence of "The Bad Thread", over in the book subforum. This outrageous thread was previously titled "GRMM: A Song of Ass and Fire", and was recently changed to "ASoIaF: The Officially Licensed Novelization of HBO's hit show Game of Thrones", which is pretty funny. The OP of the thread will explain its legacy, but if you jump into the thick of it you will find many character assassinations of George R.R. Martin, tearing down of the novels and the show, and folks posting horrible things in general with absolute impunity. Also, they know the novels inside and out. It's an amusing thread to read, but it goes over the line quite a bit. There's this amazing image as well posted in there, but I'm not sure of its origin.

In summary, NeoGAF is doing pretty well in comparison.
 
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Faddy

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Elio and Linda from westeros.org review Two Swords

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz8PFU8Dfc0

Pretty decent review and far less persnickety than before. I was surprised by what scenes they liked after reading other complaints. They weren't even that critical of the Thenns. Some good points about some of the smaller details and some missed opportunites.

The one complaint I've read constantly is about the casting of the swords. They barely show anything, a simple casting of the shape to be worked. Tywin didn't invite an incredibly skilled smith just to pour molten metal into a mold.
 
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bengraven

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Masenkame said:
Last thing of interest to note is the presence of "The Bad Thread", over in the book subforum. This outrageous thread was previously titled "GRMM: A Song of Ass and Fire", and was recently changed to "ASoIaF: The Officially Licensed Novelization of HBO's hit show Game of Thrones", which is pretty funny. The OP of the thread will explain its legacy, but if you jump into the thick of it you will find many character assassinations of George R.R. Martin, tearing down of the novels and the show, and folks posting horrible things in general with absolute impunity. Also, they know the novels inside and out. It's an amusing thread to read, but it goes over the line quite a bit. There's this amazing image as well posted in there, but I'm not sure of its origin.

In summary, NeoGAF is doing pretty well in comparison.
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I hate to admit this, but I've been a pretty active member of The Bad Thread for several years until just after Dance was released. It's literally just people who are bitter as fuck waiting between novels and we do our best to shit on GRRM as much as possible, sometimes in the most horrible, offensive ways possible, but it's all in good fun - everyone is a huge fan, despite some questionable people.

One year a mod forced the top 10 posters in the thread to take part in the Something Awful Book Barn (book subforum) Secret Santa or face a ban. It was the best thing ever - I got a huge collection of awesome books in return like Lud-in-the-Mist, Shadow & Claw, Lord of Light...

That said, the best image out of the thread I can NOT find right now, but I might go look for it. It's GRRM photoshopped into a walker with a bib and some ridiculous shit all around the outside like "rape" and "lemoncakes" (aka the two most frequent Bad Thread catch phrases).

We were pieces of shit - someone posted it on GRRM's livejournal as a 1x1 pixel jpg that slipped past Ty's careful eye and then they replaced the 1x1 with the huge pic.

I miss that place. ;P
 
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Steelyuhas

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Dany M said:
So is Jorah leaving by the end of this season?

I really feel like they pushed the relationship between Daario/Dany too fast last season and recasting him did a nice job of restarting their relationship.
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It'll be interesting to see what they do there. In the book Barristan tells her that he sold info on her to the Iron Throne for his pardon, but in the show when Jorah pries him he says that Robert didn't have him on the small council, leaving the possibility that he might not know that info.
 
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Enosh

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I'm this close to unsubbing from the GoT youtube channel, why the fuck do they have to spam my inbox with shit from the previous 3 seasons -.-

Steelyuhas said:
It'll be interesting to see what they do there. In the book Barristan tells her that he sold info on her to the Iron Throne for his pardon, but in the show when Jorah pries him he says that Robert didn't have him on the small council, leaving the possibility that he might not know that info.
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or he is just lying to Jorah and knows all the stuff ^^
 
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TheKaeptain

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DrForester said:
We should put this at the top of every page.

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hahahahaha


So Sunday is going to be another fun day on twitter?
 
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CoolOff

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Yep, I unsubbed from the GOT-channel. I can find the stuff I want from them on WIC anyway, and this re-upload spam is silly.
 
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MacNille

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So what character from the book do you miss/want to be in the tv-series?
For me, it is Ser Balon Swann of the kingsguard:
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Even if he has a small roll, I would love to see him in the TV-series, as he is just a nice guy and a true knight.
 
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Iksenpets

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Steelyuhas said:
It'll be interesting to see what they do there. In the book Barristan tells her that he sold info on her to the Iron Throne for his pardon, but in the show when Jorah pries him he says that Robert didn't have him on the small council, leaving the possibility that he might not know that info.
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I dunno, Barristan was never in the room for council meetings, but he was probably right outside guarding the door. I think he knows and he's just feeling Jorah out before he makes his move. So far, Jorah hasn't done anything to make Barristan question him, but when things eventually boil over and Jorah loses his shit over the Daario stuff, I think Barristan will seal the deal on his banishment by revealing the spying. He can say that he thought Jorah had reformed himself, but now it's clear that his loyalty was just lust for the queen.
 
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PhoenixDark

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Balon Swann is a badass...but wasn't he a part of Cersei's plan to assassinate Trystane Martell?

I feel like he harkens back to past KG members with great skill/exploits but shitty morals. I can see him surviving the story and being hailed an honorable, great knight due to most people not knowing about the Martell situation.
 
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TCRS

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What did you guys think of the Thenns? They looked a bit too thugish for my taste but generally that's how I imagined them. But I also imagined them to wear more formal and proper clothes, since they are one of the (if not only) "civilized" society north of the wall.
 
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The Artful Dodger

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TCRS said:
What did you guys think of the Thenns? They looked a bit too thugish for my taste but generally that's how I imagined them. But I also imagined them to wear more formal and proper clothes, since they are one of the (if not only) "civilized" society north of the wall.
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I like them because of the contrast they provide to Tormund, but I think they're obviously not the Thenns that we know from the book.
 
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Speevy

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TCRS said:
What did you guys think of the Thenns? They looked a bit too thugish for my taste but generally that's how I imagined them. But I also imagined them to wear more formal and proper clothes, since they are one of the (if not only) "civilized" society north of the wall.
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I thought they came off as a bit silly.
 
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Violater

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I just hope they don't screw that line up.
Although it might not have the same importance on the screen as it's not like we will have Jamie repeating it to himself audibly as he did in his thoughts.
 
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General_Frags

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Iksenpets said:
I dunno, Barristan was never in the room for council meetings, but he was probably right outside guarding the door. I think he knows and he's just feeling Jorah out before he makes his move. So far, Jorah hasn't done anything to make Barristan question him, but when things eventually boil over and Jorah loses his shit over the Daario stuff, I think Barristan will seal the deal on his banishment by revealing the spying. He can say that he thought Jorah had reformed himself, but now it's clear that his loyalty was just lust for the queen.
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When Ned was the hand Barristan was in the meetings, he and Ned tried to stop Robert from hiring assassins to kill Dany and her unborn son and Viserys, the was the meeting where Ned gave up being the hand. Also Jorah was mention at the same meeting by Vary's, he said Jorah couldn't kill Dany in Vaes Dothrak because of the no blades/killing rules and Jorah wanted a royal pardon besides.
 
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dubq

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General_Frags said:
When Ned was the hand Barristan was in the meetings, he and Ned tried to stop Robert from hiring assassins to kill Dany and her unborn son and Viserys, the was the meeting where Ned gave up being the hand. Also Jorah was mention at the same meeting by Vary's, he said Jorah couldn't kill Dany in Vaes Dothrak because of the no blades/killing rules and Jorah wanted a royal pardon besides.
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I think he was talking about the show. Barristan was never in a small council meeting on the show.
 
Cpt.Underpants

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MacNille said:
He is involved in that plot because he is ordered to. He don't like it, but he will follow his orders. Also, we have not seen the fruit of that plot yet.
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He would be in the category of "nice" and "true knight" if he disobeyed the order from Cersei. Of course it won't come into fruition since its already foiled. He's just another soldier that follows orders
 
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MacNille

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Cpt.Underpants said:
He would be in the category of "nice" and "true knight" if he disobeyed the order from Cersei. Of course it won't come into fruition since its already foiled. He's just another soldier that follows orders
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True, but I found him to be waaaay more likeable then the other kingsguard (except for Jaime.)
 
Enosh

Enosh

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Cpt.Underpants said:
He would be in the category of "nice" and "true knight" if he disobeyed the order from Cersei. Of course it won't come into fruition since its already foiled. He's just another soldier that follows orders
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that's just the whole Jamie thing of doing what those you swore to obey tell you vs sticking to the ideals you swore to uphold

it's a loose/loose situation
 
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