WhereAreMahDragonz
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People always ask me, "Don't spoil anything else but does Joffrey at least die?"
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People always ask me, "Don't spoil anything else but does Joffrey at least die?"
My answer is always "On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero". [/fight club]
Cornballer
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oh hey WhereAreMahDragonz. I didn't notice that was you without the flareon avatar.
I get asked that question by my friends as well. I just don't say anything because I don't want to spoil it. Its pretty obvious thats hes going to die at some point though. The kid is just to stupid to survive for long in the game of thrones world.
Jibbajabbawockky
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The writers really do not seem to get Stannis as a character. I know they've said they're trying to go for a different view of him since Book Stannis is often just seen via Davos but the way they be made him a religious zealot that just lets Mel call the shots is just bizarre.
The whole bit at the end of season 3 should have been when Stannis got his shit together and took charge, like in the books,and yet they had him passively standing there and had Mel dictate what they were going to do. Ugh.
RatskyWatsky
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Do you guys think we'll see Jon warg into Ghost this season? If that's how he ends up surviving his assassination attempt at the end of ADWD, then they'll have to introduce his warging sooner or later right?
They've been keeping the warging under wraps. I was one of those nasty people who watched the series first, and really, I had no idea about the warging thing. We haven't seen Arya getting inside Nym's body yet, and Jon's warging is also pretty clear from early on the books, but no word of that on the series either.
I hope they handle it right.
Jibbajabbawockky
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I'd think so. Especially if Bran starts going all TreeBran, you'd think they'd expand the warging stuff to Jon and maybe Arya.
Then again, the show is weird in how they seem to avoid dealing with some of the more fantastical stuff. But if Jon warging into Ghost is how he survives, I'd hope they'd establish that he's a Warg sooner rather than later. He's already done a bunch of warging at this point in the books.
FloppyDelux
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cant wait. re-read the third book and going to start rereading the 4th one eventually.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Oh hey there! Yeah I changed it a while back. It was a great avatar though.
I just tell them "do you REALLY want to know?" That usually shuts them up because deep down they don't want to be spoiled
The Artful Dodger
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Tell them he doesn't die till after *Insert their favorite character here*
I don't think it's that hard to believe the people posting in the threads are the same people buying the DVD's and re-watching the show every year I wold think they wold remember the whole conspiracy that launched this whole mess.It seems more unlikely that people even remember who Jon Arryn is.
So one of my friends started out only watching the show. He has started reading book 3 though. I think hes near the end of it at this point. Anyways he always asks me thrones questions. His theories are hilarious. He said to me once. dude. Tyrion and Cersei are gonna team up at some point aren't they. I responded. Its like your reading a different book series.
He also has these high hopes for the vale. He keeps thinking there gonna swoop down and join Stannis or some crap.
He also has these high hopes for the vale. He keeps thinking there gonna swoop down and join Stannis or some crap.
TheNamesPlissken
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I wouldn't be surprised if the people south of the wall never know what happens in the climax of the white walker vs. humanity thing up north and go on focusing on petty things like the game of thrones. Would be bittersweet for some character like Dany or Jon or even Stannis to save the realm while dying and have the majority of westeros discount it as silly stories/superstitions when spring comes.
I think that wold be terrible they've been building up the White Walker threat for such a long time it wouldn't seem right to have the White Walkers beaten by a few Northmen. Plus we have that whole vision of the Iron Throne covered in snow and it looking destroyed.
PHOENIXZERO
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White Walkers have to devastate the south, the Night's Watch needs their "we warned you fuckers" pay off.
I imagine at that point he'd take on the Stark surname as tribute.
I hope they handle it period, at the very least it needs to be done next season since it will play a part of their story or at least Jon's who knows how much they'll drag out Arya's story who I still think should've been in Braavos by episode five this season with her going blind being her season cliffhanger, hell at this point I'd even take Jon and Arya having a conversation with someone about their dreams.
I imagine at that point he'd take on the Stark surname as tribute.
I hope they handle it period, at the very least it needs to be done next season since it will play a part of their story or at least Jon's who knows how much they'll drag out Arya's story who I still think should've been in Braavos by episode five this season with her going blind being her season cliffhanger, hell at this point I'd even take Jon and Arya having a conversation with someone about their dreams.
Yep. Some sort of Magna Carta thing where the lords diminish the power of the crown and make a tentative first step towards a more equal country I could live with, but if we end up with the Seven Republics of Westeros I'll be pissed.
Another thing that would be awful: time travel. TreeBran is getting dangerously close to it.
Pfft, "Aegon" ain't no Targ.
This is great.
my gut feeling is either jon or stannis might in the end do something similar to that. or maybe even dan.
DKehoe
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I think King's Landing is going to go up in a giant ball of flames when all that wildfire Aerys placed below the city goes off at some point.
It would be awesome with a mini Old Valyria.
Well, not awesome, but you know what I mean.
LOL
FootballFan
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I really do not like the idea of Jon being placed on the Iron Throne. It just feels wrong.
Jon died.
"Kill the boy and let the man be born"
He will lead the fight against the Others and achieve victory but he will die doing so.
Also GRRM should never let the reader know of Jon's parentage. Now that would be rad and cruel.
edit: Or he wargs one of these somehow
Jon died.
"Kill the boy and let the man be born"
He will lead the fight against the Others and achieve victory but he will die doing so.
Also GRRM should never let the reader know of Jon's parentage. Now that would be rad and cruel.
edit: Or he wargs one of these somehow
Atraveller
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Cornballer
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Gabriel_Logan
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eww Dany at #1, should have been Twyin.
BobTheFork
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They are going to generate so many clicks with.... HOW THE HELL IS STANNIS #30?
He's top 5 easy. I would have Sam the slayer much, much higher
He's top 5 easy. I would have Sam the slayer much, much higher
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I was just about to post this. God awful character, god awful actor.
Supermanisdead
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Good actor, shit character. His death scene is my favourite in the whole series.
FootballFan
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Viserys was such a interesting character. Sort of felt sorry for him.
Dany tries to have the dragons burn whoever is sitting on the throne when she gets there and sets off the wildfire in the process, killing everyone. The end. 10/10 perfect ending.
Joff's death was definitely the most pleasant surprise of the series. It was a pretty nice relief after the Red Wedding, and completely unexpected.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Yeah, agreed on all counts. Totally worth the pain of the Red Wedding.
Steelyuhas
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Harry Lloyd was great. He took a reprehensible character and brought his struggle to life. Obviously his death was awesome, but he made you feel for the guy.
Supermanisdead
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Viserys was such a interesting character. Sort of felt sorry for him.
uh sorry kelly c but if u got a pot of molten gold on your head you would probably die too.
FootballFan
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For me, I really don't think his death came close to washing away the feeling of dread after Robb got slaughtered. It was nice and all...but he choked/got poisoned. That is it. Sort of fitting end for someone so high on himself. But still.
My most favorite moment after the RW came when LS was revealed and Manderly fills in Davos on the scheme/his plans etc. That is when I felt that there may yet still be justice for Robb, Cat, The Starks and the Northern Army.
Curse you Lannisters, Boltons and Freys.
P.S. I forgot...Justice for Grey Wind.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Oh his death scene was amazing, but I was specifically referring to his parts up until the scene in the tall grass with Rahkaro / when they get to Vaes Dothrak.
They're terrible and make me cringe every time.
PhoenixDark
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I thought Joff's death was a bit anti-climatic the first time I read it, however it's one of those things that kind of sinks in. When you think about it more, he died one of the most painful deaths in the series. Robb got stabbed in the heart - sure he got shot a couple times by arrows, but he wasn't really in a prolonged period of pain. Joffrey choked to death, and ripped the skin off his throat during the process. That's like a top 20 worst way to go out bros, perhaps top 10.
The Artful Dodger
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Yeah, I thought the way he died was the most painfully visceral death to date, and as ugly as it was to watch somebody go that way, I didn't feel all that bad.
Catelyn watched his son getting stabbed and the she proceeded to rip her own face apart, only to get her throat slit the moment after.
That's up there, too.
FootballFan
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There are worse ways to go? Shiieet.
SaintGalgo
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After Balon and Robb dying, Joff''s death wasn't really unexpected for me. And I still think he deserved a worse death.
I've seen people saying that they expect it earlier, but I hope the 'Only Cat' scene is in the final episode, right before the Stoneheart reveal (well, if they even do that), just like in the book. That was one of the most impacting chapters in ASOS for me. Yes, some viewers will probably not realize how... uh... important (?) the stuff that happens in that scene is, but screw it.
Lady Hornwood?
I've seen people saying that they expect it earlier, but I hope the 'Only Cat' scene is in the final episode, right before the Stoneheart reveal (well, if they even do that), just like in the book. That was one of the most impacting chapters in ASOS for me. Yes, some viewers will probably not realize how... uh... important (?) the stuff that happens in that scene is, but screw it.
Lady Hornwood?
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