It's made pretty clear what Varys considers best for the realm in ADWD -- Short-term stability isn't it. He's on team Aegon.
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It's made pretty clear what Varys considers best for the realm in ADWD -- Short-term stability isn't it. He's on team Aegon.
They aren't changing it. Tyrion is killing Shae.
Cornballer
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I know it is
All my avatars for GoT has been characters that die during the season. Its made more perfect with this seasons tagline. No, not really. They'll probably expand her role out a bit since they put so much focus on Margaery in the show, but I don't think she does very much at all after the wedding.
I'm just hoping for at least one more scene with her and Tywin by the end.
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I can see the show playing her up a bit more than the books do, and in the Books, I can see her having a bigger role now that Kevin is dead and Cersei is likely out of the picture, win or lose.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Moff
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Has varys ever lied? I truly believe he is on of the good guys.
He has a clear vision what's best for the realm, and that is -contrary to what you say- stability. and he believes the best way to achieve that is with a targaryen ruler.
now he might be wrong about that, thats debatable, but I believe his intentions are good.
Cornballer
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![QUOTE]Hahaha. So good.](http://i.imgur.com/vldJ5UB.jpg[img][/QUOTE]Hahaha. So good.)
gregor7777
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Agreed. The show is pretty good about this kind of thing though. You'll hear Bronn say it to someone, or some other character in jest.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108176910&postcount=3016
Doesn't Bran have visions of controlling one of the dragons in book 5, does bran know that dragons are back?
Doesn't Bran have visions of controlling one of the dragons in book 5, does bran know that dragons are back?
That got me. Giggling like an idiot at work here.
-Pyromaniac-
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Got me thinking. I disagree with the post being quoted in the link but not completely. The way the show is handling Bran seems so detached. The things he is doing are amazing and have so much potential but it doesn't feel like it's making any difference or getting anywhere. It's a little weird.
Or maybe it has to do with Bran's scenes in the show coming and going so quickly that no one really has any time to think about what he is doing.
The Artful Dodger
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Well I don't know what I expected.
Wait, is he not going to act at all any more? That would be very unfortunate. He did an absolutely stellar job in this role, and would really like to see him develop his skills further.
DrForester
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Ive been thinking since last night. What if Bronn has a hand in helping Tyrion escape. It seem like Bronn and Jaime are going to become buddies (kind of) and maybe Jaime has him tag along.
Pai Pai Master
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He says he's done acting and wants to pursue other things once he graduates from school. Makes sense if he feels more fulfilled in another area of study and wants to devote himself entirely to that. Was more of a hobby than a career to him.
It's a super memorable role too so people will still be talking about him for a long time.
ToyMachine228
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I really hope Bronn ends up going with Jaime when he leaves King's Landing. I don't want him to leave the show and become an off-screen character like in the books. The actor plays Bronn too well. One of the characters that I feel the show does better than the books.
This episode made me remember how much I hate Cersei.
I constantly saw her smiling throughout Tyrions humiliation. God damn Lena is IMO at least on Jack Gleesons level when it comes to portraying a character everyone hates. The way she smiled and looked at Tyrion while doing it... Goddamn I wanted to slap her right there and then.
I constantly saw her smiling throughout Tyrions humiliation. God damn Lena is IMO at least on Jack Gleesons level when it comes to portraying a character everyone hates. The way she smiled and looked at Tyrion while doing it... Goddamn I wanted to slap her right there and then.
When Joffery sliced the cake with his sword, I was thinking how a few birds must have gotten killed. This is great.
Her walk of shame will be glorious.
I loved how confused they were at his reaction.
I also loved Oberyn's dig at Cersei & Tywin. Calling Myrcella a bastard in the slyest way possible.
PHOENIXZERO
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Unfortunately it wasn't at all addressed as Joffrey didn't deliver the line that lead to it, he also didn't deliver the "and now there's three" line after destroying Tyrion's gift.
Red Arremer
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I agree, haha. Ramsay is such a bastard (both literally and metaphorically), but he's got this puppy look and I just can't continue hating the guy.
Anybody seen screen caps of Bran's vision? I tried searching but all I get are summaries of the episode as a whole.
EDIT: looks like if I use "vision" instead of "dream" I get what I want right away.
http://imgur.com/a/AJYUE
EDIT: looks like if I use "vision" instead of "dream" I get what I want right away.
http://imgur.com/a/AJYUE
Yeah, true, if he's doing something that makes him happy than I can't argue with that at all. It's a shame that some people seem incapable, or at the very least unwilling, to separate the actor from the role. Lots of people think he's a huge douche, but everything I've heard is that he's an extremely pleasant person.
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Incandenza
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That conversation between Cersei and Oberyn:
Every line was a straight burn.
Every line was a straight burn.
TheKaeptain
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Winter falls upon the Iron Throne.
After Bran and Jon take over the dragons and destroy King's Landing.
Exterminieren
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If there's one pattern to be drawn from the adaptation so far, it's that DnD love giving bit part players from the books who reach unexpected levels of popularity with the audience expanded parts. It's happened with Osha, Bronn, Margaery and debatably Pod, and I fully expect it to happen with Olenna now.
Willkiller
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I'm guessing Tywin had her intercepted
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it really is the biggest shame that he is gonna die soon.
Yeah, that seems reasonable.
We probably won't see her again till episode 9 then? Oh what a reveal that'll be.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Oh dear, that's going to be great.
Willkiller
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I hope not, my flatmate who I was watching the episode with kept asking if that was it, f she was really gone for good.
I told him she was.
Ignatz Mouse
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Good man, continue to feed him falsehoods.
Yes, he says that he doesn't really like celebrity culture, and he has been acting since he was 11. He's kinda tired of it professionally, and he wants to focus on academia instead. He will probably still do plays and support local productions, but as far as being in films and TV, he seems pretty confident that he has had enough.
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Rentahamster
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Hahaha, that's right, that's right. I didn't catch that.
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Browsing the non reader thread and saw this regarding Theon/Reek:
Got me thinking that the show actually hasn't gone far enough with Theon "turning into" Reek, despite all of the awful torture of last season.
Maybe the show should have been more drastic in Theon's physical change into someone else entirely? That's what always struck me in the books when you get that first Reek chapter in ADwD. The guy not only has had his mind completely broken but physically the guy is barely recognizable as Theon Greyjoy anymore. I think that's exactly the case when Asha barely recognizes him when they meet up. Whereas Reek in the show does a decent enough job acting broken but the physical transformation is a but lacking. He basically just looks like Theon with a nervous tick. I always pictured Reek as looking more like Theon Greyjoy on one of those Faces of Meth posters- the guy's hair has grayed prematurely and is all falling out, he's had teeth knocked out, fingers and toes flayed/chopped off.
I just feel like some of the shock of seeing Reek for the first time in the books in ADwD and realizing it's Theon was basically pissed away in the show by dragging out his torture on screen .
Got me thinking that the show actually hasn't gone far enough with Theon "turning into" Reek, despite all of the awful torture of last season.
Maybe the show should have been more drastic in Theon's physical change into someone else entirely? That's what always struck me in the books when you get that first Reek chapter in ADwD. The guy not only has had his mind completely broken but physically the guy is barely recognizable as Theon Greyjoy anymore. I think that's exactly the case when Asha barely recognizes him when they meet up. Whereas Reek in the show does a decent enough job acting broken but the physical transformation is a but lacking. He basically just looks like Theon with a nervous tick. I always pictured Reek as looking more like Theon Greyjoy on one of those Faces of Meth posters- the guy's hair has grayed prematurely and is all falling out, he's had teeth knocked out, fingers and toes flayed/chopped off.
I just feel like some of the shock of seeing Reek for the first time in the books in ADwD and realizing it's Theon was basically pissed away in the show by dragging out his torture on screen .
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