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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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schlongdog
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I get that, and think that's a fair point. I would say, however that we don't know that she's just waiting to get rescued, if she's to get revenge it wasn't going to be on her wedding night, that was always only going to go one way. If she doesn't get any kind of revenge then yeah, I'll be severely disappointed too.
Damn this is great..
So...Jaime/Bronn just joined a caravan and walk right into the city, and then run off?? I swear I did a mission like that in one of the Assassin's Creed games.
I like those to, but damn... and that fight... whoever linked the Benny Hill music nailed it...
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
BTW, I'm sure this was brought up, but are we all assuming that the dagger that Bronn was grazed with was poisoned? I feel like why even bother showing it if it's not gonna end up meaning something, so that seems like the most logical bet. I don't want Bronn to die though 
I could see her killing Ramsay during the battle/siege. Push him out the same window Bran fell out of or some shit, that would be a hoot.
I could see her killing Ramsay during the battle/siege. Push him out the same window Bran fell out of or some shit, that would be a hoot.
bengraven
Member
She's on a power trip.
She plays Cersei with her highs and lows and right now she's on a high.
First half of Season 1 - low (because of Robert)
Second half of Season 1 - high (because of Joffrey)
Season 2 - low (because of Tyrion)
Season 3 - high (because of Tywin)
Season 4 - low (because of Tywin)
Season 5 - high (because no more Tyrion or Tywin)
She's boring when she's in power. She needs a challenge.
Atraveller
Banned
That account followed me.
Askherserenity
Member
Would've been great for Heady if they kept Cercei's story line from the books. Although, I feel like a lot of the actors have been pretty whatever this season. Only person that comes to mine is Iwan Rheon.
Eff it.
This was the worst Episode of the Series.
Only the Arya Scene was good
Alfie Allen best actor.
- the sandsnakes are hoorible
- Bronn and Jaimes "infiltration" into the water gardens is horrible, first they got into the private palace of the ruler of Dorne (who hides his physical condition here) with no effort and then Jaime is like "hey my daughter, err niece, we have to go. Fucking stupid! Maybe wait until the evening and she is alone?
- Dwarf Cock is now valuable? Dwarfs are considered lucky and give a good coin ALIVE on slave auctions. D&D just wanted some idiotic comedy in that scene
- man word travels fast in Planetos. But Cersei is the only one who is out of the loop
- Littlefingers Plan is beyond stupid. What will Sansa say when he gets back to her? "Hey Uncle Baelish, I played the part, He raped me like no tomorrow, but I was strong inside!" *smh*
- maybe the kingsguard degenerated under Lannister rule, but Barristan would have cut down those fools in seconds if they tried to take the queen away
- Dorne sure is looking like a desert/Spain type country, with all this green landscape that looks like ireland. It sure as hell didnt look like they were baking under Dornish heat.
This was the worst Episode of the Series.
Only the Arya Scene was good
Alfie Allen best actor.
- the sandsnakes are hoorible
- Bronn and Jaimes "infiltration" into the water gardens is horrible, first they got into the private palace of the ruler of Dorne (who hides his physical condition here) with no effort and then Jaime is like "hey my daughter, err niece, we have to go. Fucking stupid! Maybe wait until the evening and she is alone?
- Dwarf Cock is now valuable? Dwarfs are considered lucky and give a good coin ALIVE on slave auctions. D&D just wanted some idiotic comedy in that scene
- man word travels fast in Planetos. But Cersei is the only one who is out of the loop
- Littlefingers Plan is beyond stupid. What will Sansa say when he gets back to her? "Hey Uncle Baelish, I played the part, He raped me like no tomorrow, but I was strong inside!" *smh*
- maybe the kingsguard degenerated under Lannister rule, but Barristan would have cut down those fools in seconds if they tried to take the queen away
- Dorne sure is looking like a desert/Spain type country, with all this green landscape that looks like ireland. It sure as hell didnt look like they were baking under Dornish heat.
Cpt.Underpants
Member
BTW, I'm sure this was brought up, but are we all assuming that the dagger that Bronn was grazed with was poisoned? I feel like why even bother showing it if it's not gonna end up meaning something, so that seems like the most logical bet. I don't want Bronn to die though
I could see her killing Ramsay during the battle/siege. Push him out the same window Bran fell out of or some shit, that would be a hoot.
Yeah, Bronn dying from that dagger is gonna suck
bengraven
Member
Bronn surviving poison is going to rock.
"Takes more than a bit of junk in your blood to stop meh. You ever been to a Pentoshi whorehouse? One night with one of them ladies and you're pissin' purple blood for weeks...up on the rooooof..."
Did your Twitter posts rival his/hers? There's only room for one person to hate on this show and it's Angry GOT Fan.
"Takes more than a bit of junk in your blood to stop meh. You ever been to a Pentoshi whorehouse? One night with one of them ladies and you're pissin' purple blood for weeks...up on the rooooof..."
Did your Twitter posts rival his/hers? There's only room for one person to hate on this show and it's Angry GOT Fan.
Ah, I don't mind about not being given the credit. As long as people can have a bit of a laugh and not endlessly complain, that's the main thing. And yes, it's my favourite one since Face Tyrell's marvelous exit. I wonder what next week's offering will be...
Askherserenity
Member
Speaking of Angry GOT Fan.
http://angrygotfan.com/2015/05/18/game-of-thrones-embraces-shock-value-rape/
Short article. Pretty much agree with everything he said.
http://angrygotfan.com/2015/05/18/game-of-thrones-embraces-shock-value-rape/
Short article. Pretty much agree with everything he said.
bengraven
Member
Sansa's happy dance with her pregnancy test?
graffix13
Member
The more I think about it, the more I tend to agree. Just...just terrible.
schlongdog
Banned
Makes revenge that much sweeter when it comes.
bengraven
Member
I take issue with this:
If there seriously is one person who was more worried about Theon's state of mind than Sansa's, that person is probably locked away in a mental ward somewhere. No one was sympathizing with him. They cut to him because yes, he's in torment and didn't want to see it, but he was reflecting her own terror. So we didn't have to watch it, but showing it on his face to let us know it's as terrible as it sounds. Has nothing to do with his feelings except as a way of showing her feelings without having to actually show her.
Funny story, I actually lurked it for an article (but gave credit), only to be lurked myself by a Reddit direct image hotlink.
bengraven
Member
Seriously, guys, the Sand Snakes were bland, but the episode they were introduced in was worse than this. The entire episode besides them was much better than most this season.
I think the prolonged SS scene and SanSay's wedding night are going to shit all over the actual quality of the episode.
I blame the writing, actually. When it's high it's really fucking high but when it's low it's really fucking stupid...
I think the prolonged SS scene and SanSay's wedding night are going to shit all over the actual quality of the episode.
I blame the writing, actually. When it's high it's really fucking high but when it's low it's really fucking stupid...
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
It just occurred to me, where was the Kingsguard (nameless show Oakheart I guess) they sent with Myrcella?
Yeah, this was how I took it too.
Yeah, this was how I took it too.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
God dammit I have a buddy who is normally a reasonable, level-head and all around solid dude but he is arguing that it wasn't "really" rape. I feel like I am fully in crazy town trying to talk to him about how like "dude what the fuck are you even saying right now"
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
D&D's end game all along? Well played.
Askherserenity
Member
I actually think they did that in part to show Theon "breaking". Next episode he'll probably save Sansa or some shit.
I recall some people even saying that it looked like Theon was just going to freak out and just attack Ramsay right there. At least that's what it seemed like to me when I watched it last night.
bengraven
Member
I felt zero sympathy for him and I think the author of that article probably has never met anyone that felt the same way. They're just stretching.
And this is a guy willing to forgive him for his murders at Winterfell in Season 2.
You might be right about it pushing him over the edge, but I think he's breaking through anyway. Every time they meet you see a bit of him wanting to scream at her: "I didn't kill your brothers! Get away! He's a monster!".
Atraveller
Banned
Less capslock but more sarcasmDid your Twitter posts rival his/hers? There's only room for one person to hate on this show and it's Angry GOT Fan.
theignoramus
Member
The ending to last night's show was a new low point for this show. Before that it was the rape scene between Jamie and Cersei. Why do they have to bludgeon us with horrible behaviour from characters already shown to be morally bankrupt?
The book charges again Margery involved adultery with a long list of characters that the show doesn't have the time to introduce.
Now this just pisses me off. The stuff about Theon, but also the behind the scenes stuff.
Clearly HBO/D&D are evil/neckbeards/lovers of rape. Go up to them and ask them about that if it concerns you so much. But don't make up imaginary bad guys to blame for an obviously complicated problem.
If the rape scene sucks, talk about IT. Talk about how the show came to IT. Talk about how everyone involved came to IT. Don't talk about THEM.
Sorry, but this trend just disturbs me.
Just stay out of that thread. It is not difficult. They don't need your help.
Ganzlinger
Member
Me too. God, if he had killed Ramsay there it would be this arc's redemption. I'd dare say it would be better than the books.
Askherserenity
Member
I mean, they did write it into the show. So not sure how you can not talk about them. But I agree with you about the whole D&D being "evil" and shit. I think they're just bad writers.
TestOfTide
Banned
They better have some spectacular turn around for Sansa next two seasons to make up for last night's episode.
Yeah, this change was a necessity- they just don't have the time they did in S3/4 to draw out plots.
Electric_ Cthulhu
Member
People keep repeating that Sansa scene was rape. Again: It wasn't rape. Do you just say that because it sounds worse and confirmed the issues you have with the show?
A lot of you don't understand how hard it is to make a TV show like Game of Thrones. To condense so much material in single episodes, that not only have to appeal to fans of the books but also to a broad audience that isn't as pedantic and high-handed as many of you are.
Has the show done everything right? No, far from it. I too think, that Dorne has been handled poorly, for example. But all in all D&D have done an very good job in not only adapting the convoluted source material, but also in creating new storylines that manage to keep established characters around while keeping the narrative accessible.
A lot of you don't understand how hard it is to make a TV show like Game of Thrones. To condense so much material in single episodes, that not only have to appeal to fans of the books but also to a broad audience that isn't as pedantic and high-handed as many of you are.
Has the show done everything right? No, far from it. I too think, that Dorne has been handled poorly, for example. But all in all D&D have done an very good job in not only adapting the convoluted source material, but also in creating new storylines that manage to keep established characters around while keeping the narrative accessible.
I understand, that blog just pushed me over the edge a bit with the fake quotes.
Edit: The post above mine got me even more angry. I'm gonna leave for awhile. Sorry if I've pissed anyone off, this discussion will last awhile I feel.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Yeah, no. That was 100% some rape. And I'm one of the folks who doesn't have a problem with the scene and found it to be a fairly expected event to happen given the circumstances.
Atraveller
Banned
Ok, time for me to go to bed.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Huh. I could have sworn it was.
I know there's a term meant to describe the act of forcing someone else to have sex with you that doesn't want to. What was that word?
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Sadtimes crysex
Jag
Member
I think Whoopee Goldberg called it "rape rape".
If watching that scene didn't make you think she was getting raped...well then, you may have some internal issues.
You understand how hard it is to make a TV show but don't understand the definition of rape? Some nice priorities there.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Lol!
theignoramus
Member
You have got to be kidding me dude. There was coercion and implied threats from Ramsay all over that scene. She was mentally bullied into doing that.
I understand he's getting at the fact that everyone, including Sansa, knew they had to "consummate" the marriage. I mean, it happens a dozen more times in the books that it has happened in the show...but no. There was nothing consensual about what happened.
I have no issue with it though. They got married, there was no way she was going to avoid what happened.
Grasshopper
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I watched the episode just now, and it was like scaring awake when you are almost asleep.
Lets hope the book will be out soon
Lets hope the book will be out soon
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There was immense complaining because they altered Drogo to be considerably less gentle/understanding than he was in the books (where it was meant to be a surprise that he wasn't a total brute to her), and it harmed their later genuine loving relationship by having it start out rotten like that.
We cannot say that until the season plays out.
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