Veritigo_X
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Sister/Lover? Sunspear isn't Casterly Rock.
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Sister/Lover? Sunspear isn't Casterly Rock.
Damerman
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Not sure what u are saying?
Are u saying that the brother sister thing is normal in dorne? If so, yes im aware.
Veritigo_X
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It isn't normal in Dorne as far as I'm aware. Ellaria was Oberyn's lover, not sister. Elia is Oberyn's sister and she was killed by the Mountain.
Yeah... they haven't mentioned either the Blackfish nor Edmure again. Where are they?
I kinda wished they would've sent Jaime on this original mission to the Riverlands. I mean, we could still have Dorne, perhaps Bronn along with a Kingsguard (so a bit more similar to the books, I dunno). I get they didn't want to introduce more characters, but they did on season 4 (Oberyn) and were very successful, it could've worked again.
Damerman
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Just looked it up, i seem to have been confused somewhere because i could have sworn she was somehow related to oberyn.
Veritigo_X
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She might be a distant relative since she's a bastard of one of Dorne's major houses, but there was never a point made about it.
badcrumble
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The books version is Hot Pie, Gendry, Rickon, Osha, Benjen Stark all chilling at the Inn at the Crossroads.
BTW - was that inn the set they used for the Brienne/Sansa scene in episode 2? In terms of condensing a lot of events to all semi-coincidentally happen in one location, it's one of the things the books did that felt the most like the sort of decision that TV showrunners would make.
cartoon_soldier
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Might be a Hardhome Spoiler - http://i.imgur.com/gXGOk25.jpg
Night Kind's sword. We knew he was appearing in the episode, but we will also see him fighting. Should be great.
hydrophilic attack
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Or uncle marrying
Moff
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No, GRRM made too many names sound similar. It is easy to get them confused 😖
The entire plot/structure. Absolutely nothing works with how they went about trying to do this story. They must not have allotted much of their budget here because there is no sense of scale and everything looks cheap.
Those characters are done badly, but so are Myrcella and Trystane. And that's on the writing/directing,
cj_iwakura
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Taken On Ice better happen now.
CitizenVectron
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CitizenVectron
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Thanks. Kind of lame if true since it goes against what we assume is going to happen. I guess we'll see!
hipsterpants
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Holy shit that sounds amazing.
....sooooo
that would definitely mean Jon does actually get "killed" in episode 10.
Last Hearth
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Saw leaked footage from episode 7
Cersei is going down on Sunday
biosnake20
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Yeah the leaked inside the episode happened from the same place again, OSN.
Moff
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lame because something unexpected happens? that's not my definition of lame and certainly not that scene, I think that sounds amazing and if done right could easily be one of the most epic fantasy scenes we have ever seen both on TV and in a movie. it doesn't hurt that the season didn't have much cgi so far, it looks like they saved their budget for that and the pit of course.
Hopefully after she visits Margie to gloat.
cj_iwakura
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Exterminieren
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I don't think we'll see any full-blown Battle of Winterfell this season. We've heard about Stannis's camp being burnt, but I'd be surprised if we saw anything more extensive that that. I expect to see it all poised on a knife's edge at the end of episode 10.
Moff
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I doubt hardhome will be a full hour battle, they surely had time for the winterfell battle, even in episode 9 or 10. but i doubt it would be something big, honestly it's just a bit boring.
blackwater had a fleet of ships and the bomb. the wall had a very interesting location as well as interesting opponents in the wildlings with their mammoths and giants. I just don't see anything interesting in the winterfell battle than men cutting each other up so we will probably get 5 or 10 minutes of that, but I wouldn't expect more.
cj_iwakura
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Melisandre casting Meteo, of course.
Basileus777
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Or there might not be a battle to show, they could resolve the situation without one.
I can totally picture her doing that. Melisandre is Ultimecia confirmed.
RobotChant
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But we've already seen:
Jon asking Tormund to go to Hardhomme and Tormund refusing unless Jon (the Lord Commander) goes with him.
eot
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I'm going to be annoyed if Stannis' army gets wiped out without proper justification only to serve the plot. They've made a point of saying that he has a numerical advantage (did he get sellswords already? it's so unclear) and that he's the greatest military commander bla bla. It would be so like the show to have him lose in an underwhelming manner. I know it's basically operation barbarossa, but still.
Melisandre leaves with Stannis but they need her back at Castle Black for Jon. I'm betting Stannis never makes it to Winterfell (no need for the battle), Theon/Sansa still escape, and he sends Melisandre back to Jon to try and negotiate some help/assistance from the Nights Watch or wildlings to help him which is when they might get her to go back and warn Jon.
They personally noted the weather could turn at any moment, winter is coming. I can easily see Stannis army just being held up by weather. Or they might lose a key battle and have to retreat since Northerners like the Boltons have the advantage?
They personally noted the weather could turn at any moment, winter is coming. I can easily see Stannis army just being held up by weather. Or they might lose a key battle and have to retreat since Northerners like the Boltons have the advantage?
lazyproblems
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Finally sat down and marathoned season 5 up until this point. Eesh, people weren't exaggerating the Dorne stuff, especially the Sand Snakes. Similarly, the Sansa scene was pretty brutal. Not as bad as what happens in the books, but still pretty bad for a lot of the reasons I've seen outlined here. Interested to see how the show handles that moving forward and the upcoming battle in the North.
I guess the Greyjoy stuff got moved and will be reworked in season 6?
I guess the Greyjoy stuff got moved and will be reworked in season 6?
I see that Balon is supposed to be in episode 10 of this season? Then yeah, I guess they'll kill him and then rework the kingsmoot next season.
hydrophilic attack
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Lol @ the musical. That was pretty great. Surprisingly, quite a lot of the cast are pretty good singers.
Also, the girl who plays Myranda is ridiculously hot.
Also, the girl who plays Myranda is ridiculously hot.
Oldest Snake
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I think that's why he's going to lose, to be honest.
In the books Stannis is stuck between a rock and a hard place. His army is stuck in the snow with a bunch of ragtag Northern houses who aren't particular loyal to him, his own army can't function on the Northern terrain/in the Winter snow and people have resorted to cannibalism but he keeps marching because he is a King and that's what Kings do.
I think they're bigging Stannis up in the show so his defeat will be more shocking to the audience.
but pointy hips tho
I think you mean sharp hips.
Will they really end in an anticlimactic non-show down in Wingerfell like the books? There is no battle but here is Jon getting stabbed!
I hope not.
I wouldn't consider Stannis losing to be shocking. Personally I think that him winning would be more of a surprise for me.
He lost at Blackwater with a bigger force and the show has a trend where the "good guys" always seem to bite the dust when they're about to be victorious.
Book Stannis isn't Show Stannis anymore. Show Stannis is now well funded by the Iron Bank of Braavos and now has ten times the men, whereas book Stannis is poor, has lost almost all of his fleet and men, and was even wanting Wildlings to fight for him, wanting Jon to sign over castles to house what's left of his men, to recruit those Northern lords.
There's no reason he has to be defeated per se. But if he is, I think it'll be the perfect time for Ser Davos to be sent off to White Harbor for that one quest. Having Rickon Stark on his side could help in having all the North rally behind Stannis then. Who knows. They've diverged so much, I don't even know if they'll be similar at all until the end.
Atraveller
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Everyone dies at some point, but him straight up lose to human enemies (and it's only one single house in the show) is very lame.
bengraven
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Thank God I'm busy today and can resist the urge to watch.
Atraveller
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In D&D's show, I wouldn't be surprised.
Citadel? it's going to be funny when the show ends up doing Oldtown and Greyjoys next season when everyone assumed those were dropped for good.
I REALLY want the Boltons to die this season. Let the Freys, Greyjoys and Tarly be the villains in season 6.
badcrumble
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Bumping Oldtown/Pyke stuff to next season would be a sensible way to give AFFC/ADWD about a season and a half, I suppose. Of course, Pyke taking place *after* the Winterfell business is an interesting choice depending on where Theon ends up, but Oldtown would indicate further Sand Snake business afoot (lol noooo) and pairing the two together suggests that the Faceless Men will be a big deal in S6/TWOW.
bengraven
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You know, since we all "know" he's going to die, I've been thinking that it actually makes sense. I think his story is essentially done. If it's true that Mel believes Jon to be AA and by resurrecting him he is now the living embodiment of that, then Stannis's story is over. Mel has turned on him and his purpose in the books is finished. There isn't a need for another contender to the throne. I think Shireen's Grayscale is going to prove to be something in the future and it would make sense if she was alone, away from her father, when it happened.
tl:dr - now that Jon's AA and Mel is obsessed with him, Stannis can die a heroic death; his story is ended
badcrumble
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I think it's also important that every single one of the original Five Kings ends up dead.
Ganzlinger
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Hell yes!
Fuck that. Stannis da gawd.
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