Yea iirc in that chapter Jon looks around and sees them fighting one of the giants right before he gets stabbed...don't think that would go down too well considering its a fucking giant already inside their walls not to mention the wildlings outnumber them by a ton.
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Yea iirc in that chapter Jon looks around and sees them fighting one of the giants right before he gets stabbed...don't think that would go down too well considering its a fucking giant already inside their walls not to mention the wildlings outnumber them by a ton.
Last Hearth
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Preview:Stannis' line about "if a man knows why he is, what choice does he have to resist his destiny" really sounds like they're going to have him consider the sacrifice.
Also Prince Doran demanding that Jaime swear him fealty is weird. No idea where they're going with that. Or with the continuing scenes of the Sand Snakes and Bronn in prison. Jaime forced into the service of the Martell's would be taking things completely off book. But maybe they'll find a way out of it.
He's demanding it from Ellaria and the Sand Snakes, just like in the books, trailer was just to mislead people.
You're almost definitely right. I was thinking it'd be cool to send Jaime off to Daenerys to help broker an alliance between Targaryans and Martells.
Red Arremer
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I find Ellaria in the show so silly. In the books, she literally is the voice of reason that asks her family to not go to war, to not pursue revenge... and in the show she plots it all.
Was anyone else confused when Qyburn went to talk with Cercei and she asks him if word had reached Jaimie? Like, did she forget that he's on a supposed top secret mission? How did she expect to get a message to him?
She's a little fuzzy on account of being hit on the head with that spoon over and over.
The show set up Sansa using Ramsay's concern about his potential baby brother against him, so I think there has to be some payoff for that -- or I hope there is, given that that would be the only thing Sansa has done at Winterfell that is actually related to the skill-set she is supposed to be developing. So I don't think they'll be leaving while Ramsay is away.
Mr. Wonderful
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You're confusing Ellaria and Arianne.
Arianne is very much missed in the Dorne scenes this season, however. Her internal conflict was what prevented the stupidity of that first Sand Snakes scene.
He's not, he just doesn't want to accept that show Ellaria is different from book Ellaria. Show Ellaria is basically Arianne.
I think that's his point with the show. The show merged Ellaria and Arianne together, but in doing so also obliterated Allaria's character from the books. So more like a hostile takeover than a merge.
fake edit: beaten.
Statements like these make me sad.
Goddamn Dorne could have been great.
Give it up already. It's not going to happen.
She asked if there was word of Jaime, for example if Qyburn learned of anything happening to him, or if he had sent word that he was coming back, something along those lines I'd imagine.
BobTheFork
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I fucking love Stannis. One True King! I've never been interested in Dany actually getting back a throne she doesn't deserve. She really can do so much more for the world elsewhere. I swear to the many faced God, if he actually sacrifices his daughter, I will lose my shit >: (
I have always rooted for The Hound. He's the man. Fuck Arya.
Darth Pinche
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Holy shit, that is a game changer!
PantherLotus
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This is like, the entire point of warging and is the ultimate endgame: who rides/controls the dragons to put down the long winter? Either Starks or Targs or down combination of the two.
George RR Martin already listed her on a list of characters he wishes were in the TV show but aren't going to be. So it's confirmed she won't be showing up.
http://www.cnet.com/news/the-5-characters-george-r-r-martin-wishes-were-in-game-of-thrones/
RatskyWatsky
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Birgitte Hjort Sorensen <3
bodyofanamerican
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I honestly had to check what thread I was in for a second!
Agreed and agreed. Great use of the corkscrew, makes perfect sense for show!Sansa.
I thought she asked if there was any word of or from Jaime, not if word had reached Jaime.
I'd imagine all the stark children can.
I'm still quite curious as to what the Direwolves were about. Lots of magical crazy stuff has happened since the series began, and it has never really been explained why there just happened to be the same amount of Direwolves as there was Stark children.
That being said they haven't really done much throughout the series, and now 2 of them are dead. I completely forgot about Nymeria also, since she hasn't been mentioned in the show for a long time.
It's obvious the dragons play a big part, but what are the wolves for?
Ganzlinger
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About King's Landing plot..
It's weird that they arrest Cersei, Margaery and Loras but let Littlefinger go away.
It's weird that they arrest Cersei, Margaery and Loras but let Littlefinger go away.
He's not a citizen of King's Landing. He lives in the Eyrie.
I think this late in the game, the only way the baby matters is if the Boltons survive deep enough into season 6 to have story development that we can't guess about yet. Otherwise, I think the baby is just because they felt the need to humanize Ramsay. It gave them a chance to show how much he needs his father's approval, which is the only thing they really have to ground him as a real person.
Well, Nymeria's been building an army of wolves in the books and George made some remark that he wouldn't put that in if he didn't plan to use them.
The show may forget her but we won't.
Birgitte Hjort Sorensen <3
The show may forget her but we won't.
Byakuya769
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Just made dumb instead of jealous and ambitious.
Ganzlinger
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Isn't the Seven jurisdiction spread throughout whole Westeros with the exception of the North and Iron Islands? If that's not the case, Loras could say he is a citizen of Highgarden.
That didn't stop the feds from arresting those FIFA dudes. Maybe King's Landing needs a RICO act too.
Youre assuming the High Sparrow isnt a Littlefinger plot
RatskyWatsky
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What isn't a Littlefinger plot at this point.
starting to think he's the Many Faced God. makes about as much sense as all the other theories seemingly coming true.
More like the Many Voiced God, am i rite?
Ganzlinger
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lol That could be an interesting twist.
They specifically showed Sansa taking note of his reaction to the news, and then showed her needling him about it. It would be really disappointing if that was just for a one-liner, seeing as Sansa is supposed to be learning to manipulate people.
GRRM confirmed that all of the Stark children are wargs, but their abilities have developed asymmetrically, and it's clear that contact with their wolves is to a great degree driving it.
That isn't to say that Sansa couldn't develop further as a skinchanger, since, as far as we can see, most skinchangers don't have a specific totem animal, but I don't think she's likely to in the course of the plot.
Dude comes outta nowhere, busts into the septon vote with armed men and comes out as the new high septon. Definitely fishy.
Basileus777
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Ganzlinger
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"Name me Warden of the Gods"
bodyofanamerican
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AND the original High Septon got busted where...?
Who does the Faith's key witness against the Tyrell's work for in the show?...
oh my seven
bodyofanamerican
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Yep. We found our new Eur-arrio theory!
Such a fantastic episode all around. But it really shone a light on how bad everything in Dorne has been handled. Even minor characters like that wildling chieftess felt more fully developed in 15 minutes of screentime than all the Sand Snakes combined. And as far as I recall, that was a made-up character.
Although for me, the one downside is that Val is almost certainly cut from the show. Hardhome would've been the ideal time to introduce such a character, but looks like she's been dropped completely.
Although for me, the one downside is that Val is almost certainly cut from the show. Hardhome would've been the ideal time to introduce such a character, but looks like she's been dropped completely.
Her cut makes sense, she has no purpose (as far as we know) outside of finding Tormund for Jon in ADWD. Show Jon already has Tormund.
Not only more developed, also more badass than the "badass" trio.
Forsaken82
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Not sure this is fair considering we haven't had 15 minutes between all the sand snakes and half of the time we have had with them was dedicated to boobs.
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