They could do most of that, but won't do any of it. Hell, they can't even be arsed to give closure to characters like Gendry and the BWB.
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They could do most of that, but won't do any of it. Hell, they can't even be arsed to give closure to characters like Gendry and the BWB.
I'm extrapolating based on the pacing of the show.
Though I do admit there is some chance to learning about Stannis and Ramsays fate.
Not sure about episode 10 but a laughably vague synopsis for episode 9 "leaked".
Episode 9 synopsis
Stannis confronts a troubling decision. Jon returns to The Wall. Mace visits the Iron Bank. Arya encounters someone from her past. Dany reluctantly oversees a traditional celebration of athleticism.
Episode 10 synopsis
Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei (Lena Headey) seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged.
Stannis confronts a troubling decision. Jon returns to The Wall. Mace visits the Iron Bank. Arya encounters someone from her past. Dany reluctantly oversees a traditional celebration of athleticism.
Episode 10 synopsis
Stannis marches. Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei (Lena Headey) seeks forgiveness. Jon is challenged.
Basileus777
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That leak isn't substantial or credible enough to really start freaking out over how HBO is going to end with 30 cliffhangers.
Shuggananas
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That's a good summary of the whole dany arc
It's going to be dothrakis isn't it
Ape Gone Insane
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Yeah, I'd be disappointed. Can't see it either. Grrm said someone 'unexpected' would end up on the throne, which more or less rules her out.
Most unexpected thing at this point would be for Tommen to remain King. Which is the prediction in the Ragnarok theory.
Ape Gone Insane
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Hmm, he did say a few different people would end up on the throne after Joffrey and before the end. Can't see Tommen lasting long. And then there's all that foreshadowing about Cersei's children all taking the throne (?) and dying before her.
Somewhat unlikely theory ahead
There seems to be a running theory that she
will turn villainous. This is based on a theory that the white walkers have upheld their side of an ancient deal of status quo that the humans have now started to break with the return of dragons and magic. Jon will want to broker peace again while dany will want to destroy them. I feel like the conversation with tyrion last episode when she spoke about "breaking the wheel" lends some credence to her becoming over zealous.
Daenerys plot went into a nosedive since the moment that she sat in Meeren. Would it depend on me, she would have kept moving foward instead on Dothraki nomadic fashion.
Yes, it would be exactly like the books, and that is a huge problem, purist idiocy nonwithstanding. Martin's decision to delay every single climax and closure of the previous plots is a mistake of "splitting viewpoints between westeros and essos" proportions.
Yes, it would be exactly like the books, and that is a huge problem, purist idiocy nonwithstanding. Martin's decision to delay every single climax and closure of the previous plots is a mistake of "splitting viewpoints between westeros and essos" proportions.
I'm more for the theory that Bloodraven is both the Red and and the Great Other, and that he is orchestrating to pull the Dragons to his side making it Dragons and White Walker vs the Realm of Men. Ice and Fire working together, not against each other. What this means for Dany's fate is either that she'll die or join Bloodraven.
Basileus777
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It's up there. The Band of Brothers assault on the gun positions and the end of Spartacus season 1 were pretty awesome too. On an epic scale Hardholme can't be beat.
I can't believe how amazing that action sequence was, I doubt it'll be topped by any other scene in the series. It made it even more shocking because of how crappy most of the action scenes have been this season compared to previous ones.
Pyramid head
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Yeah it was a huge step up for the show. Most of their action scenes have been pretty bad but everything about Hardholme was awesome. The pacing, camera work, and sense of danger and hopelessness were awesome.
Chuck Norris
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I think it may have to do with the demise of Dragons and Targaryens in Westeros. The last of their lineage died and left Westeros at the start of the long summer - now winter is returning and so do the white walkers?
Can't be a coincidence
Basileus777
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The last dragon died ~150 years before the White Walkers showed any sign of return, I don't see the connection. Unless you think the Others care which descendant of Aegon V sits on the Iron Throne.
The recent Blacks Sails season 2 finale is definitely up there also for me.
Mayhaps.
Yeah I didn't do a fantastic job retelling the theory, which can be found here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/23p48r/the_true_nature_and_purpose_of_the_others_and_the/
"We have some clues to what that cause might be. Daenerys, Jon, and Robb, all magical children with the traits of their ancestors, were born roughly at the same time. Daenerys was the first succesful Targ to hatch dragons since they died out, and Jon and Robb are the first Stark wargs since... whenever they stopped being wargs."
I mean it's the top voted post on /r/asoiaf of all time so it at least has some good points.
PhoenixDark
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Wasn't there perhaps more potential for her to become a typical Mary Sue fantasy character and waltz to success? I liked how her progress was halted in ACOK, and she really only reached success in ASOS (which most people would agree was the height of her story, entertainment wise).
Dany seems like a character who could break the story if handled poorly. She has dragons but they aren't big enough to dominate. Still they're powerful enough in the third book to wreck large groups of people. I like the idea of letting her "level up" for awhile, and learn how to rule instead of just rolling to victory. My problem is moreso how Meereen was handled. It could have been very interesting with lots of intrigue and shadow politicking. Some of that happens (I'm sure many have read the essays on the poisoned locusts) but overall it feels like a narrative quagmire.
Notice how interesting it gets once she leaves. Barristan's chapters are far more interesting. Not just the action, but the intrigue.
So I guess the climax in Arya's story this year is going to decide whether to kill the thin man or to kill Meryn Trant who she will see come into Braavos via the docks. I definitely think Trant is going bye bye this year, so it will be interesting to see what consequences there are for Arya if she goes against her mission with the faceless men. Maybe she kills both, but even so that would still cause some problems for her I would assume.
The theory is over a year old, so it was written prior to the later half of season 4, meaning a lot of the things we've seen in the show about the white walkers that hasn't been in the books yet was not taken into account. I think the biggest obstacle to it being true is how menacingly evil the white walkers seemed in the last episode, necromancy is not exactly something that I would imagine the humans could overlook. Ignoring that I feel like the theory might work. It's definitely a bit out there though.
Not that it comes as a surprise, but wow D&D live Kit lol. To think that people think John could die anytime soon or isn't the main hero of the TV show heh.
Thanks for the video.... Great watch love seeing them together on these events.
Has this been shared? The soundtrack samples for season 5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNs5FPvhoPg
I wonder if Throne for the Game will actually be used in the show or if it's an album only song like For the Realm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNs5FPvhoPg
I wonder if Throne for the Game will actually be used in the show or if it's an album only song like For the Realm.
Basileus777
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There's been zero setup for it. Tystane has been on screen for a minute or two. I don't think he's going to be particularly important.
So has Doran, doesn't mean he isn't important.
Basileus777
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You have to lay the ground work for a twist like that. Were they going to have some sort of twist for Trystane this season, they'd have given him some screen time and development. The show hasn't presented him as being anything more important than "that Martell guy Myrcella likes."
Maybe. I'm skeptical that he'll amount to much.
TheOctodad
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Do we know it's a "someone" at all that ends up there? Could it be that Westeros is turned into some sort of republic? Or the story ends with the land reverting to more tribalistic regional kingdoms?
That's true but my question would be what is the point of Dorne this season then? In the preview
we hear Doran demanding the Sand Snakes pledge their obedience to him just like in the books, why do this unless he plans to reveal something to them.
I think any one other than Dany and Jon would be considered 'unexpected.'
What about the pact? Why bother with Myrcella if he can marry Dany?
That would mean that Dany has to come to Westeros by next season and quick. I can't imagine Trystane being sent off Quentyn style or Doran just sitting around a whole season waiting on Dany to show up. Plus, that would seem to go counter to the books since Dorne seems likely to go against Dany.
So in spite of Dany already existing, Doran waited for Mycella to be born and a very unlikely arranged marriage made by Tyrion? If hes playing the long game, he could wait for Dany or send for her. I don't know, I don't buy the Trystaegon thing at all.
PhoenixDark
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What if Doran reveals that he's actually Rhaegar.
Basileus777
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Then no wonder they killed off Mance.
Can't be, they already burned Rhaegar at the start of the season.
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