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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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WrenchNinja
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Byakuya769
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Wait. Do we have the ep 10 description?
You're in for a fun time.
You're going to love the first five minutes of episode 5.
Brace yourself for episode 6. And don't let it get you too down, things get better in the next two.
Dany is surrounded by strangers. Cersei seeks forgiveness. Stannis marches. Jon is challenged. Ramsay kills the Night's King.
Shuggananas
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You forgot this bit
Arya marries balon greyjoy
-Pyromaniac-
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The problem with Ramsay is I have this feeling they are trying to make him this formidable and very hatable foe with his torturing and beating everyone shirtless and being unstoppable but really he just comes off as a slimey cunt. Or maybe they're going for both. Can't tell. There doesn't always have to be a joffrey.
AFFC is not actually that long. In the version I read, they increased line spacing such that each page had 10 lines fewer than ASOS. It was immediately noticeable coming from one book to the other.
I don't understand what is so far fetched about this idea it's pretty clear from the books that each Stark child is being groomed to have very specific and clear talents so that together they'll represent a larger powerful force capable of influencing events and providing a large contribution come end game.
Arya= Assassin.
Bran= Wizard.
Jon= Warrior/Battle Commander.
Sansa= Political Player.
Rickon= ...Shaggydog.
They're basically a classic D&D party group.
Quentyn sends his regards.
i just accepted that the show and the books are different things now, that way i can apreciate the show more
Ahhh yes, I forgot that for some reason. Predictable as hell. Especially the last part.
Gonna be really weird when GRRM has Arya and Jon hook up in the last book.
Eh, I don't have that problem. My imagination makes the characters in my head more unique, a few actors are perfect translation of what I have in my head but few are. Rather, most of the characters are a mish-mash of the actor and my own imagination. For example, in my head LF looks somewhat like Aiden Gillian but has none of his mannerisms or speech patterns.
CrocMother
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tbh I have been really surprised at how close the adaptation has been to the books, all things considered.
The caliber of acting has also been better than I could have imagined. We bitch and moan but really it could have been so, so much worse. First of all, HBO picked it up. Second, it has like the biggest budget of any show ever?
badcrumble
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Yup. Not to mention the final book was originally going to be called "A Time for Wolves."
Red Arremer
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Rickon would be Ranger (they get animal companions) and Sansa would be, uh... Noblewoman?
My favourite part of that video is Mark Addy at the start going "I was told Sean Bean was gonna be here, he owes me a fiver."
badcrumble
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I remember GRRM saying a few years ago that he was impressed and inspired by Natalia Tena's performance as Osha, saying that in the books she's a character he didn't particularly feel enthusiastic about but that her performance made him want to write more of her and gave him stronger ideas about how to characterize her. I'm expecting a decent amount of Osha/Rickon (finally) in TWOW.
Then again, he also said he really liked Ros, lol.
Then again, he also said he really liked Ros, lol.
Majmun
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Too bad the show sent Osha to plothole limbo
Oh, I didn't mean to cast any skepticism on the idea. I totally think that's where it's developing. I think anything else would probably be really disappointing. Like, Sansa is the one character I most expect to survive just because of how her arc has to pay off.
I just meant that Sansa has very protective fans who will lash out at any perceived deviation from that arc, probably more so than any other character. Sansa fans are really personally invested in the character in my experience.
Yeah, people underestimate how far they could have deviated. I'm sure there are producers out there who would have written out pretty much everything that wasn't Stark/Lannister/Targaryen. It could have been terrible. And yeah, the actors have been great. Like for every part I don't like about the show, I never want to see anyone try to redo it, because they're not going to nail the casting on characters like Arya and Sansa a second time.
badcrumble
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Which is a thing adapted straight from the books (though at least ADWD begins some amount of momentum toward getting Rickon back). But that's really not a D&D problem, it's absolutely a GRRM problem (though I think it's intentional and that we're going to be pretty surprised by what's going on with Rickon by the time we see him).
Also, I really don't see Sansa being pregnant because that's just too much of a deviation from the books. D&D tend to sort of oscillate storylines around roughly the places they begin/end in the assorted books; I expect all of the Sansa/Winterfell business to end up converging roughly on where the books also go, despite taking a different path to get there.
biosnake20
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"Give me 20 good dogs."
If HtH gets Sansa pregnant in the books it's not that much of a deviation.
I mean, except for the fact that instead of her child in the books being the rightful heir to the Vale, Riverlands and potentially the North, show baby would just...actually Walda's kid is above Ramsay in line for the North.
Yep, only GoT is shorter when you look at the word count.
A Game of Thrones: 295k
A Clash of kings: 322k
A Storm of Swords: 419k
A Feast for Crows: 298k
A Dance with Dragons: 415k
Astral Dog
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Sansa is going to be as badass as her mother, you will see!
-Pyromaniac-
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You guys know that if Sansa ever had Ramsay's baby, she would die during the birth.
The ultimate fuck you.
The ultimate fuck you.
It wouldn't surprise me that instead of going to those weird isles that she just kind of hid out in a farmhouse near Winterfell. No one's looking for them. And then Stannis can conveniently take Rickon into custody, meaning he won't have to sacrifice Shireen as Rickon would technically have royal blood.
This is me wildly speculating before I leave for work.
His name is Reek!
Walda's kid? Ramsay will deal with that pretty easily.
By hanged you mean flayed, right?
Red Arremer
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I actually thought Catelyn was a pretty strong character given her position as a noblewoman within Westeros. There's not many female characters in the series who have as much power and agency as her.
And I'd argue LSH is pretty damn badass, too.
I'm so tired of seeing people flayed. It's disgusting.
She was probably the most powerful woman in Westeros aside from Cersei. She was stupid though.
In the book, Roose knew Ramsay killed his kids and he didn't give a shit.
Red Arremer
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Nah, Olenna's probably in a more powerful position, but Catelyn definitely is up there as well.
I wouldn't say she was stupid, though, rather than misinformed and a little ignorant of consequences.
That would certainly be a boring twist. Sansa turns to Roose, hoping he'll sympathize over this information. He just laughs at her.
"Yeah, he does that."
she wasnt stupid, she was the most intelligent Person in Robbs camp.
She just didnt have anyone listen to her.
We still dont know how honest he was to Theon when he told him in the books that he suspects Ramsay will kill his unborn son and that he doesnt give a shit because he probably isnt going to see his trueborn son hrow up.
She kidnapped the son of the most powerful man in Westeros, and let him go. Then she had another of their sons and let him go too. That's pretty bad.
Well, Ok, that was motherly stupid.
Other than that, she knew exactly how Robb fucks up his political alliances and strategic Advantages.
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