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[Drazgul]

Posted yet?

Ok, I like him again now.

 

[Faddy]

Geographically, it wouldn't be possible. Stannis is already marching onto Winterfell, and he wouldn't be able to go back to The Wall to issue the order, so it would have to be Melisandre (and maybe the Queen) who does it on their own. Maybe they manage to actually talk with her and convince her it is a sacrifice to save her father I dunno.

Which is why Edric Storm is sort of central to the whole thing, more than ever. Outside him being the strongest person to inherit the Stormlands and being Stannis' heir (should he be legitimised) he also was Shireen's closest (and only ...) friend around her age. His reaction to her death is something that would be interesting to see. Of course that is all in regards to how TWOW plays out.

As for Robert's basterds in the show, yeah it's really unfortunate that plot line got dropped. The fact that they combined Gendry and Edric's role into one makes me think that they are also streamlining that thread in order to have Gendry show up as the new heir to the Stormlands (if they even bother bringing that plot point up). The problem is that without it, Stannis just burnt his one true heir to his ancestral home, and that is something that "The younger brother should obey the elder" Stannis wouldn't typically do.

Edric Storm is so important he was mentioned all of twice in the last two books. No bastard is going to have a claim to the Stormlands, no one will support him. Whoever controls the throne will most likely give it to a loyal supporter. The Stormlands is not a plot, there is nothing to be told in the squabbling for titles. There has already been three sieges detailed at Storms end, we sure as he'll don't need a fourth.

If/when Shireen dies at Castle Black how is Edric who is in parts unknown going to find out

Also Tommen is The Lord of the Stormlands.

 

[Interceptor]

Immortan Joe rates this episode equally as the rest of season 5.
(Except Ep. 8 obviously)

 

[bengraven]

Then Davos comes riding back.

"Look who I ran into on the way back?"

*presents Gendry to Stannis*

"Perfect. Men, prepare the firewood!"

"Sire, we found a little black haired baby behind the firewood!"
"Why that's the little Robert bastard! I thought he died in King's Landing! Good find, lad!"
"Not a lad, sire. I'm a girl. Stone's the name. Mya Stone."

 

[Interceptor]

Fuck awful episode.

Sand snakes slapping hands

Stannis committing filicide because of OP Ramsay

We really need to understand how evil Trant is so let's make him a child rapist

All the sons of harpies magically disappearing after Dany flies away on her dragon, because lol can't afford the CGI to have Dany riding the dragon while having it burn everyone. Her friends are lucky all the harpies suffered from involuntary teleportation once Dany decided to leave all her friends to die.

Don´t forget the Harpy slaying noble man, Dragon climbing cgi straight from the 80s, Bron becoming a comic relief character, Olly staring contest, Jon travling the sea and yet standing on the wrong side of the wall etc etc. Major clusterfucks all around. Spartacus had better arenas even in season 1.

 

[Brakke]

you cannot seriously think Bron being a comic relief character is some new thing starting this episode

 

[TheOctodad]

Anyone have examples of shows with this kind of scope that has better cgi? I'm legitimately curious.

 

[munchie64]

Don´t forget the Harpy slaying noble man, Dragon climbing cgi straight from the 80s, Bron becoming a comic relief character, Olly staring contest, Jon travling the sea and yet standing on the wrong side of the wall etc etc. Major clusterfucks all around. Spartacus had better arenas even in season 1.

CGI like this didn't even exist in the 80s.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Anyone have examples of shows with this kind of scope that has better cgi? I'm legitimately curious.

Don't know about show but if you're willing to read, the Malazan: Book of the Fallen novels are fantastic.

 

[cLOUDo]

stannis should listen davos not melissandre

 

[Red Arremer]

Hahaha I remember thinking exactly this when I saw that scene originally. I love someone made a gif out of it!

 

[TheOctodad]

Don't know about show but if you're willing to read, the Malazan: Book of the Fallen novels are fantastic.

Thanks, it's sounds good, I'll look at it.

My question though, was specifically about the cgi. People are blasting it, but is there a precedent of better cgi in TV shows somewhere? I can't think of one with an equal scope (large organic creatures and massive battles).

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Thanks, it's sounds good, I'll look at it.

My question though, was specifically about the cgi. People are blasting it, but is there a precedent of better cgi in TV shows somewhere? I can't think of one with an equal scope (large organic creatures and massive battles).

in TV it isn't likely since not many channels have the budget that HBO can pour into their shows.

 

[Speevy]

stannis should listen davos not melissandre

 

[Enosh]

innocent loving girl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "EEEEEENH MY PARENTS ARE DEAD kid

are we really blaming him for not being BFFs with wildling after they murdered and ate his parents in front of him? because I totally understand him wanting to nuke every wildling from the face of the planet

 

[Interceptor]

CGI like this didn't even exist in the 80s.

Well duh. Of course not. They still somehow managed to made it look like a fanmade video on youtube. Neverending Story looked better than this. Danny climbing Drogon was so hilarious it almost made me forgot the poor fighting choreographie minutes earlier.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

are we really blaming him for not being BFFs with wildling after they murdered and ate his parents in front of him? because I totally understand him wanting to nuke every wildling from the face of the planet

Nah I understand why a kid would be against it, but if he really ends up killing Jon because of it? Sorry there's no understanding there.

 

[hipsterpants]

Jon is totally going to head south and get stabbed. He must have already forgotten about the zombies that's why he didn't tell anyone about them.

 

[schlongdog]

Jon hopefully is reborn as Azor Ahai, fetches a block, and takes Olly's treacherous head off

 

[Nokagi]

Well duh. Of course not. They still somehow managed to made it look like a fanmade video on youtube. Neverending Story looked better than this. Danny climbing Drogon was so hilarious it almost made me forgot the poor fighting choreographie minutes earlier.

I think perhaps you need to buy a better TV.

 

[Javaman]

If

Spoiler

Brienne really does kill Stannis

I don't think people in here will care that much anymore after yesterday. I'm so excited for the Winterfell/North Plotline in TWOW but at this point in the show I just want to see it end. They've done enough damage already.

Ramsay and 20 people somehow made it past Stannis' entire army and destroyed every single siege weapon and piece of food without a single person in the group being spotted, let alone killed. You would think there would be guards everywhere, especially among the most important items for a war (weapons and food for the soldiers). And how were they even able to start the fires? The whole thing was just impossible. If some of Ramsay's men were killed or captured it would be more believable but they weren't even spotted.

Yeah i hated that. It would have been better if fire chick set them in order to push Stanis to killing his daughter.

Almost all the fight scenes are crap this season. I don't know If its the choreography or editing, but they make no sense. Barriston, arena, sand snakes? All complete crap. Hardhome and Jamie's fights were the only good ones.

 

[Kusagari]

I'm half expecting the Bolton's to stomp Stannis army and then the season ends with Jon getting the troll letter from Ramsay.

Then next season Ramsay kills Jon in front of Sansa.

 

[Byakuya769]

The letter is something like "Haha I'm totally raping your sister, Stannis is not coming, fuck you bastard."

Sam says "What are you gonna do?" and Jon's like "It's vow-breakin' time! Tell Olly to meet me in the stabbing yard."

Pre episode recap:
"Take off your clothes."

"...Ned Stark'sBASTARD."

"But the wilding skilled my entire family..."

 

[Interceptor]

I think perhaps you need to buy a better TV.

You think the dragon climbing looked great? Well i´m not the one in need for a better TV. ^^
I didn´t bother me as much as Dany getting away unburned (again).. i´m more curious about how a show of this magnitude could fuck this scene up the way it did. it was supposed to the biggest thing this season.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

You think the dragon climbing looked great? Well i´m not the one in need for a better TV. ^^
I didn´t bother me as much as Dany getting away unburned (again).. i´m more curious about how a show of this magnitude could fuck this scene up the way it did. it was supposed to the biggest thing this season.

considering the amount of CG/make up needed for the whitewalker fight? It's a fucking dragon.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Jon hopefully is reborn as Azor Ahai, fetches a block, and takes Olly's treacherous head off

Final fight will be Jon (AA) v. zombie Olly.

 

[foxtrot3d]

Jon hopefully is reborn as Azor Ahai, fetches a block, and takes Olly's treacherous head off

Pffft, it's pretty clear Stannis is the true AA after last night's episode.

 

[Interceptor]

considering the amount of CG/make up needed for the whitewalker fight? It's a fucking dragon.

Sure. But lets be honest. The shot where Dany rides drogon looked like a "people sitting in a moving car scene" from the 20s. Poor backrounds and silly riding motions included.

 

[duckroll]

Dragon climbing cgi straight from the 80s

They still somehow managed to made it look like a fanmade video on youtube.

You think the dragon climbing looked great?

I love how this goes from "CGI straight from the 80s" to "fanmade video on youtube" to "so if it is neither of those that must mean it looks great". Truly hilarious. Maybe you should learn to better articulate your criticisms if you don't want people laughing at you.

Edit: Oh while I was posting that we already got this gem:

The shot where Dany rides drogon looked like a "people sitting in a moving car scene" from the 20s.

So is it 80s, 20s, or Youtube? Make up your mind!

 

[Arabesque]

Edric Storm is so important he was mentioned all of twice in the last two books.

It was more speculation as to what Stannis will do once he finds out that Shireen had been burned. I mean Stannis has no one else as heir, and it might as well be someone who was of noble birth (or at least equivalent enough to be a Great Bastard). He doesn't need to be an important figure in the story or a POV character.

No bastard is going to have a claim to the Stormlands, no one will support him.

Orys did. And people accepted his claim. And really once you think about, Joffery too ...

And in terms of bastards holding claims, both Robb and Stannis seemed to think that all they needed to do was just legitimise Jon as Jon Stark and the North would've accepted him as the King in the North. And going by how strong the support for Daemon Blackfyre was, it seems like that is all it takes in this world to get the support of lords (who would either be bound by duty or opportunistic desires).

Whoever controls the throne will most likely give it to a loyal supporter. The Stormlands is not a plot, there is nothing to be told in the squabbling for titles. There has already been three sieges detailed at Storms end, we sure as he'll don't need a fourth.

But there had been a large portion dedicated of this story in regards to squabbling over who is the King of whom Obviously the ultimate fate of who will actually get the Stormlands is something only GRRM would know, but I'm not talking about that.

I'm considering Stannis' options having lost Shrieen, and what he would do to ensure that House Baratheon doesn't become extinct.

If/when Shireen dies at Castle Black how is Edric who is in parts unknown going to find out

Edric is in Lys. And if Shrieen were to die, it might take a while for news to make it from Castle Black to Lys, but it will get there. Not to mention if Stannis does legitimise him, he would send word for him to come back,

I'm not saying that he would just teleport like they do in the show lol, it's just something to think about in regards to what will happen in the future.

Also Tommen is The Lord of the Stormlands.

Sure. I mean Tommen on paper is the Lord of the Stormlands because on paper he is Robert's trueborn son, but I think half the kingdom already knows that is simply not the truth. And given the other 2 major lords declared for themselves, that makes his claim even more dubious.

Not like it matters to him anyways, since

Spoiler

Varys

is busy killing all of Tommen's sane advisers and letting Cersei roam around freely, so Tommen should find himself dead shortly after Shrieen.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Sure. But lets be honest. The shot where Dany rides drogon looked like a "people sitting in a moving car scene" from the 20s. Poor backrounds and silly riding motions included.

Jesus it went from neverending story to "from the 20's" rofl

next time you describe it it'll be

"How did they fuck up that scene, it looked like a 5 year old's drawing being floated in front of the screen"

 

[Nokagi]

You think the dragon climbing looked great? Well i´m not the one in need for a better TV. ^^
I didn´t bother me as much as Dany getting away unburned (again).. i´m more curious about how a show of this magnitude could fuck this scene up the way it did. it was supposed to the biggest thing this season.

Thought it looked pretty good. Certainly nowhere near as bad as you are making it out to be.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Interceptor I have a feeling you'd watch Jurassic Park and describe the famous scene like this

 

[Fuzzy]

Jon sees the NW surrounding him
Jon: "Olly, fetch me my sword."
Olly runs to Jon and plunges Longclaw into Jon's chest while saying "For my parents!"
*credits*

 

[Interceptor]

I love how this goes from "CGI straight from the 80s" to "fanmade video on youtube" to "so if it is neither of those that must mean it looks great". Truly hilarious. Maybe you should learn to better articulate your criticisms if you don't want people laughing at you.

Edit: Oh while I was posting that we already got this gem:



So is it 80s, 20s, or Youtube? Make up your mind!

Climbing: 80s.
Riding (seeing her face) 20s.
Easy.

Jesus it went from neverending story to "from the 20's" rofl

next time you describe it it'll be

"How did they fuck up that scene, it looked like a 5 year old's drawing being floated in front of the screen"

Not discussing the sandsnake fight right now.

 

[StopMakingSense]

Jon wargs into Olly.

"Oh you're fucking kidding me!"

 

[UberLevi]

Jon wargs into Olly.

"Oh you're fucking kidding me!"

Wait, is this a pun?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Jon wargs into Olly.

"Oh you're fucking kidding me!"

Bran wargs into Jon warging Olly

"Checkmate white walkers"

 

[hipsterpants]

all these ridiculous scenarios are probably better than what we're actually going to get

 

[Valhelm]

I just got around to watching the last episode. Wow.

With Hizdahr out of the picture, the chance of Daaron in the show seem somewhat more possible. I'm not sure why he would be killed if not to make Daenerys single again.

 

[StopMakingSense]

It was sure nice of the numerous surviving Harpys to just let Dany's toadies chill after she peaced out of the arena.

 

[Judderman]

Holy shit, Linda is a fucking lunatic. How does GRRM associate with someone like her?

 

[Speevy]

Having this show filmed as though it were from the 20s would be awesome.


Imagine a silent film Game of Thrones.


Dany's face-acting would really start to shine.

Think of the red wedding

 

[Nokagi]

I just got around to watching the last episode. Wow.

With Hizdahr out of the picture, the chance of Daaron in the show seem somewhat more possible. I'm not sure why he would be killed if not to make Daenerys single again

Jorah's time has come.

 

[foxtrot3d]

I just got around to watching the last episode. Wow.

With Hizdahr out of the picture, the chance of Daaron in the show seem somewhat more possible. I'm not sure why he would be killed if not to make Daenerys single again.

This is actually a good point, since Daario clearly isn't Euron he doesn't serve much point. He's ripe for the chopping block.

 

[StopMakingSense]

This is actually a good point, since Daario clearly isn't Euron he doesn't serve much point. He's ripe for the chopping block.

Eh, since Jorah is a dead man, Tyrion is going to need some manner of protection. I could see them getting on OK.

 

[duckroll]

Jorah, Daario, and Tyrion are the 3 heads of the dragon. Dany is the dragon body. Grey Worm is the tail.

 

[foxtrot3d]

Eh, since Jorah is a dead man, Tyrion is going to need some manner of protection. I could see them getting on OK.

Jorah has Greyscale which actually gives him some plot armor at the moment, that obviously has to come into play beyond him simply having a death warrant.

 

[Valhelm]

Jorah's time has come.

I'm positive the worst thing about Season 6 will be the love triangle.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

My poor bear won't ever get the maiden fair.