She killed a girl in 1990.
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She killed a girl in 1990.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Burned her.
It's more than just Melisandre's prophecies in the show. Stannis himself has seen the vision of the battle in the snow. He believes the safety of the kingdom is his responsibility.
This scene between him and Davos regarding the sacrifice of Gendry is a nice parallel to the current events: https://youtu.be/g7IQcQlHjVM?t=164
Red Arremer
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She's incredibly toxic and vile. I just watched her and Elio's video on the bonus materials for the last episode where D&D mentioned they got the idea of burning Shireen from George.
It's kinda sad too cause Elio actually seems like a genuinely nice guy, and understands that the show and books are different, but Linda is just awful.
bengraven
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What the fuck has SHE been up to lately?
Funny you mention that, because it's made by the same people who make the Ice and Fire RPG guidebooks.
Funny you mention that, because it's made by the same people who make the Ice and Fire RPG guidebooks.
i have a bad habit of going ahead when I get interested in something so I've looked into a lot of info about the books when I started watching the show this spring. I do think Jon will be attacked but a) olly will be the one to do it b) or olly will end up doing the right thing and ultimately losing his life to protect Jon. They sure have shown Olly a lot talking with Jon or Sam in scenes about morality and what is right.
Red Arremer
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Olly, just like Brienne, is a Chekhov's gun just waiting to go off.
Ganzlinger
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What the fuck has SHE been up to lately?
Dat cleavage... I thought it was cold in the North
Admiral Woofington
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In the books he's just training to be a Jedi. So until he's needed he probably won't show up again.
Linda seems alright on some of the reviews I watched this season. She had some well reasoned takes on certain things like the Sansa storyline. I haven't watched this week though. The worst I can say about her is she seems really emotional and passionate about the books. Maybe I've just missed the truly horrible stuff she said.
RukusProvider
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Nothing this year. It's confirmed he wont' be in this season. Frankly, there is PLENTY for them to cover in the last episode than reminding people on why Bran became one of the Na'Vi
I'm hoping for some legit shockers in the finale.
Lactose_Intolerant
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Plus the kid actors got a bump in salary this season.
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Jon is getting a note. Rip Jon, until next season.
You Know Nothing
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Red Arremer
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She got really disgusting on Twitter, honestly. She's not as bad in the reviews, but she still comes off as really condescending at times, and the way she brushes off the phrasing and her reactions on Twitter in that latest video is gross too.
bengraven
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Also I just realized Myranda should just be cast in all the remakes that Fairuza Balk was in.
Worst Witch? Go for it.
The Craft? Go for it.
Um...other things...?
She comes off really strong as "I have George Martin's attention and YOU don't". Very smug about it. She acts entitled.
Worst Witch? Go for it.
The Craft? Go for it.
Um...other things...?
She comes off really strong as "I have George Martin's attention and YOU don't". Very smug about it. She acts entitled.
PhoenixDark
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Linda and many other purists just continue to not acknowledge the fact that a TV show can't be as comprehensive as a 900 page book. While I agree the show fails in large part due to treating viewers like idiots, I wouldn't advocate them following the book feverishly. It would not work, period. Ultimately they'd be happier if they just stopped comparing the two mediums. I can understand complaining about certain things, like the whitewashing of certain characters, but overall show characters aren't book characters.
My complaints about Stannis burning Shireen don't revolve around "book Stannis would never do that." Show Stannis probably wouldn't do it either, which is why the writers contrived that idiotic Ramsay attack. That's the type of stuff that annoys me, not "but the book did x."
My complaints about Stannis burning Shireen don't revolve around "book Stannis would never do that." Show Stannis probably wouldn't do it either, which is why the writers contrived that idiotic Ramsay attack. That's the type of stuff that annoys me, not "but the book did x."
Ape Gone Insane
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Enosh
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shit maybe she is secretly also a red priestess and betrays Ramsey to help out Stannis at the battle!
eot
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They don't even wear any kind of beanies beyond the wall. If it were actually cold their ears would freeze off.
Red Arremer
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Linda thought it was shit because she doesn't like action scenes. lol
They use hooded cloaks to cover their heads. Not in the show, obv, but in the books.
I'm watching this video right now, I don't know if I'll make it all the way through, but so far they seem to be in support of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf76-r672kI&feature=youtu.be They're saying book Stannis would do that.
They also defended Sansa being raped, thought it was an acceptable change, believe it was handled well, and believe she acted in a way true to her book character. Despite almost everyone online hating that.
bengraven
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You Know Nothing
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The male booty seemed more ample this season. Can't really complain.
Stannis didn't just kill Renly, he murdered the Storm's End castellan (who wanted to have an honest duel iirc) and he also presented the argument that would defend the burning of Shireen when talking about Edric Storm.
We all want him to be the man Davos thinks he is, but Melisandre has obviously been corrupting him, and each time he fails she gets inside his head more. That's what D&D meant when they said his arc was always leading up to this from their introduction in the show - she manipulates him more and more and when he's a completely broken men she gets all the way through. Of course episode 9 failed to convince us he was broken but it was obvious that was the intention.
He's not a religious person, he doesn't believe the red god, but he believes in her magic and he definitely really wants to sit the throne. That's his entire purpose for going north. To save the realm is what everyone gets from the cart-before-horse quote, but what it really says is that he's doing all this shit because he wants the throne.
Corpsepyre
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Unless you had seen Sam's ass.
That would have been eye-poking material. Thankfully we didn't.
He believes the Red God is real because her magic is real. He says it himself in the clip I posted earlier. https://youtu.be/g7IQcQlHjVM?t=357
bengraven
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You Know Nothing
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I'm just disappointed that "fat pink mast" didn't make into the dialogue in some way.
bengraven
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Corpsepyre
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Fucking hell. What have you been watching?
Ganzlinger
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Thanks, I didn't knbow about her.
"shirtless Ramsay" should be the answer of everything lol
RukusProvider
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Serious question.
Who is this "linda" lady and why does she get so much attention?
Who is this "linda" lady and why does she get so much attention?
myranda 2 hot 2 b cold. like mel.
Like. I'm sympathetic to the claim that Linda isn't very pleasant. This level of documentation is kind of weird though. Who keeps enough links around to put such a thing together? Or else who goes digging on this... Kinda stalker-esque either way.
The post in that link from 'Giff motivates why she matters. She's worked as a fact-checker on the series, and she worked on A World of Ice and Fire.
Like. I'm sympathetic to the claim that Linda isn't very pleasant. This level of documentation is kind of weird though. Who keeps enough links around to put such a thing together? Or else who goes digging on this... Kinda stalker-esque either way.
The post in that link from 'Giff motivates why she matters. She's worked as a fact-checker on the series, and she worked on A World of Ice and Fire.
Ganzlinger
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I'm gonna stick with this explanation.
Corpsepyre
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It MUST end with that. Dany and Jhaqo should be before that.
Ape Gone Insane
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She's like the Game of Thrones equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church.
The resurrection wouldn't have as much impact if it was left to next season I feel.
We've had this conversation like sixty times this season already lol.
But we didn't have this one. o_0;
Red Arremer
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After reading through that, I dislike the person who put all that together more than Linda.
Well, if D&D are going to continue with the obvious parallels between Stannis and Greek mythology, it isn't going to be Brienne who does Stannis in.
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In Iphigenia in Aulis the Mycenean king Agamemnon was unable to leave for Troy because the gods plagued his troops with storms that were impossible to navigate. To solve this, he sacrificed (burned) his daughter (or at least, everyone thought so, Artemis saved her in the last minute). During the war Agamemnon captured the prophetess/priestess Cassandra and took her as concubine. When he returned to Greece, Agamemnon and Cassandra were murdered by Clytemnestra, his wife, as vengeance for the murder of her daughter.
The parallels with Stannis' show story are obvious. Stannis has a priestess who's also kind of his concubine and he sacrificed his daughter to be able to go to war. So what's left is Stannis winning the battle for Winterfell and Selyse killing both Stannis and Melisandre directly afterwards. I honestly think the chances of this happening are pretty big, especially since D&D made Selyse reconsider burning Shireen at the final minute with Stannis stopping her and thus causing a reason for Selyse to resent Stannis and Melisandre.
The parallels with Stannis' show story are obvious. Stannis has a priestess who's also kind of his concubine and he sacrificed his daughter to be able to go to war. So what's left is Stannis winning the battle for Winterfell and Selyse killing both Stannis and Melisandre directly afterwards. I honestly think the chances of this happening are pretty big, especially since D&D made Selyse reconsider burning Shireen at the final minute with Stannis stopping her and thus causing a reason for Selyse to resent Stannis and Melisandre.
That's putting it mildly; half the time she sounds like she should be posting this crap from inside a padded cell.
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