Atraveller
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Premiering all the episodes globally at the same time must have helped, HBO Asia being one episode behind the rest of the world was a huge mistake.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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RobotChant
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I expect something like this to happen:
Olly:
Alliser:
Olly:
Alliser:
PHOENIXZERO
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Olly is totally killing, he serves no other purpose other than "dey keeled me famleh!"
You can talk about oysters and clams, but not cockles.
Admiral Woofington
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Should people who leak get burned for the red god?
WadiumArcadium
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I hope Ghost rips Olly's throat out if he does stab Jon.
No need to be so violent.
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un33dab@dpu$$y
Ghost will probably just look at him in bored disdain, and then go back to gnawing on a bone or whatever it is they've had him do most of the season.
Anyone? What if Stannis wrote the pink letter?
Admiral Woofington
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Lol @ the three bear moon
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un33dab@dpu$$y
He wouldn't really have much to write Jon other than "we need supplies." He doesn't know about Sansa, Jon didn't send Mance to Winterfell, I just don't think there's anything he could write that would make Jon do anything. I guess he could have written, "Help me take Winterfell or I'll burn my daughter," but too late for that.
edit: Oh shit, missed the S.T.A.N.N.I.S system, that is brilliant.
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un33dab@dpu$$y
Ignite Shireen there makes the whole act worth it.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
I want to see a DAVOS system now.
WadiumArcadium
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Not that you'd be able to tell, he'd be gnawing the bone off-camera.
Sickboy007
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Doubt the red priestess
Advise your King
Vala...Valle...Valyrian Princesses
Observe descent into madness
Stannis must die
Shuggananas
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obey
Shuggananas
Banned
"just burn my kin up" lmao
Ape Gone Insane
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I've never totally understood the logic behind the decision to off Jon. If it was 'for the watch', offing Jon was pretty much the certain way of ensuring that the Watch was completely destroyed. You're outnumbered by thousands of Wildings loyal to Jon, a rampaging giant and a massive direwolf - the Watch would be slaughtered.
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un33dab@dpu$$y
I guess the only way to really explain it is that it was a heat of the moment thing, because yeah, it's really a really stupid action to take at that moment in time if it's thought through at all.
graffix13
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Not to mention the undead army that will soon be knocking on your door. And the only man who has killed one in combat? You just Caeser'd his ass.
Jon is so terrible when it comes to explaining stuff. He needs to come out and say, "Look guys, I just saw Ice Darth Maul summon up a thousand dead dudes and their GPS said they're coming for us." That shit would be the FIRST thing out of my mouth when I got back to the wall. Take this example from Hardhome.
Thenn: How did Mance die?
What Jon should have said: A southern king wanted to burn him alive as an example for refusing to subjugate his people and force them into another war. Mance was stalwart and dedicated to the principles of his people, and was willing to give his life for it. Although we fought against each other as enemies, he was a man who I also deeply respected and who had shown kindness when he could have just as easily tortured me. Before he died an agonizing death as the flames licked off his flesh, I gave him a quick death. Though I feared repercussions, I felt showing him this mercy was the honorable thing to do.
What Jon said: I put an arrow through his heart.
I think show Mace is one of my favorite book-to-show changes. He's just so damn lovable, the big ol' idiot.
I honestly can't tell if that was Jon being an idiot (like his book counterpart often is when it comes to explaining himself) and Tormund just bailed him out, or if it was a smart calculation. Because the result he got was the best situation; he got to look strong and Tormund stepped up to defend him. That probably worked out better than him trying to make his own excuses would have. I just don't know if that was his intent or not.
Atraveller
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If I'm Jon, I'd yell "You'd like some more ice zombies?" to Bowen every time he whines about the wildlings.
Shuggananas
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This is the stupidest shit.
They fight white walkers and dwights in ep8
ep9 they come back to the wall and they're all like "ugh we tired i'mma get some wine"
Just fucking tell them they have a huge army, they raise corpses, you killed one of them with valyrian steel and all that jazz for fucks sake
It doesn't make any sense. I think people were just so happy to get to the end of the book that they didn't question it carefully.
Admiral Woofington
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This is a place full of hormonal criminals who act like college students with their rivalries. Their logic was that the Lord commander was breaking the vows and others were going along with it. It was out of desperation.
eot
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You don't see how the LC going off to attack the Warden of the North is a bad thing for the Watch? Jon is making the entire NW an enemy of the Boltons by trying to save his sister, he's also obviously betraying his vows and the penalty for that is death.
They just don't see the big picture. Even if Jon hadn't the intention of helping fArya the Caesar was going to happen at some point. The NW is nowadays mostly made of scum and criminals, they are not intelligent, they just know their job is to kill wildlings (wrong) and that's it, and now along comes this guy, who was living amongst them and telling them to help the guys they are supposed to kill? The guys who have killed dozens of their friends? Most of them haven't even seen a WW, they don't know the terror. The pink letter was just the icing on the cake.
elrechazado
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Except it wasn't the scum type that killed him.
They were paid off/threatened by Ramsey, it's why some of them were crying when they were doing it.
Admiral Woofington
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Marsh seemed pretty scummy to me, but that's the impression I got xD
Marsh isn't the nicest dude, but I took him for a fairly serious watchman.
elrechazado
Banned
Well, he's loyal to the watch and not a scum like chett and the others who are murdering and raping and plotting to kill The Lord commander so they can be the next craster
graffix13
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EXACTLY!!
The first words out of Jon's mouth should have been "Guys, I've seen some shit". I mean, he's got fellow Nightwatch men to back up his story AND the Wildlings. They may not believe the Wildlings but how could everyone have the same story?
"The Night King is coming with an army of undead. They raise the fallen to grow their ranks. We need to prepare. I'm not fucking kidding."
The show is written in such a way that the dialogue breeds unnecessary conflict or lack of information between characters. Especially for Jon, who is an idiot.
Nazgul_Hunter
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That was the (only) annoying thing about episode 8. Every time Jon opened his mouth, it was to say something cryptic or incomplete only to generate drama. "We're allies", "I put an arrow through his heart." and then he shuts up. What the hell?
Oysters rampant quartered with clams and cockles combatant on a field of seafoam green.
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