it's the siege not a battle which is taking place at the end adwd, mainly seen from tyrions POV
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Way too early for that
After Sunday
-Jon Snow
-Roose
-Ramsay
-Stannis
-Melisandre
-Selyse
-Myrcella
-Tommen
-Tormund Giantsbane
-Lancel Lannister
-Bronn
-Myranda
-Theon
-Pycelle
-Kevan
-Balon
-Meryn Trant
-The Thin Man
-Oysters
-Clams
-Cockles
-20 Good Men
-Olly
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
I kind of do hope it just ends with him getting stabbed and cliffhangers hard with him lying there bleeding, the internet explosion will be manna for my soul.
dead souls
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It'd fill me with glee to see the anarchy and outrage if they end the series with him bleeding out and it fading to black.
That'd be Red Wedding levels easily.
ChaosZeroX
Banned
God I hope not. I would hate being left on a cliffhanger. I just want some sort of hint. Anything that shows he doesn't die or is going to be resurrected.
futuredrew
Banned
What would be the point? Jon dies, they film season 6 and he shows up on set someone leaks set pics and everyone's like well no suspense he didn't die.
Like every tv show ever. They still kill or "kill" characters for cliffhangers though.
I mean, if the kindest thing you can say about the show is that they've kept the production rolling along smoothly. The show totally does some things well (in previous seasons I would have said most things) but "be grateful it exists at all" isn't really an argument unless you're incredibly desperate for any sort of fantasy show to exist, regardless of quality.
I thought it seems a reasonable point to bring up in speculation, but I don't watch a ton of TV so I can't say how common the use of season-ending ambiguous deaths are.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
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Same. The picture of Tyrion is just perfect.
I've personally enjoyed every episode, even the "bad" episodes. For me, I think it's great that there's a book telling and a TV telling of the same overall story.
My point initially was that unless you get hung up on mundane nuances in comparisons to the book the show is rather good. Even with some mediocre acting and fight choreography.
Also, you hear more about the bad acting than the good acting (there's a lot of good acting) , and the bad cgi more than the amazing fact that they decided to film on location all around the world instead of in studios in Hollywood.
Even if you think the show is rough (I personally dont) if you factor in the logistics and the incredibly complex plot then I think it's fair to say that it's amazing the show is being made at all and has made it 5 seasons so far. If someone thinks the show is bad now, I don't think they realize how bad it could have truly been.
Cornballer
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Shuggananas
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cartoon_soldier
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The Show vs. Book Tyrion thing has nothing to do about Tyrion's arc in the books.
It's a Dany in Meereen image rather than Tyrion. It was made after episode 7. At the same point in the story in the books, a huge war was on the verge of happening with armies of slaver cities and armies of pirates coming, while on the show all that was happening was she was meeting Tyrion. Other than that, everything was fine for her.
cartoon_soldier
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And the show version is perfectly fine for the show.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Translating everything from the book to show would have made it boring as hell. And yea they also don't have an unlimited budget.
Yeah, can't complain about this one. This season has had some bad arcs, but Tyrion and Dany aren't them. They've been fine (minus the Barristan stuff with Dany). The Unsullied have had some bad choreography, but the story itself has been fine.
Surprised there's no Sansa comparison pic yet.
A sansa comparison pic would be favorable to the show.
Let's make this perfectly clear about Stannis.
What they did Sunday was sloppy, poorly done characterization. They didn't build to it and did not earn it. Shireen should not have been burned. Ramsay should not have been able to do what he did. Thus it follows that Ramsay doing what he did should not have made Stannis do what he did. It was bad storytelling and D&D's part.
However, Stannis does allow innocent people (even his relatives) to be burned not because it is absolutely necessary, but because his red priestess demands it.
This "Mannis" thing is totally inconsistent with the books. Being a great general does not make you a great man, and D&D probably realize this.
What they did Sunday was sloppy, poorly done characterization. They didn't build to it and did not earn it. Shireen should not have been burned. Ramsay should not have been able to do what he did. Thus it follows that Ramsay doing what he did should not have made Stannis do what he did. It was bad storytelling and D&D's part.
However, Stannis does allow innocent people (even his relatives) to be burned not because it is absolutely necessary, but because his red priestess demands it.
This "Mannis" thing is totally inconsistent with the books. Being a great general does not make you a great man, and D&D probably realize this.
Admiral Woofington
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I cried for you. And your oysters.Yeah, about that!
Not the clams. The cockles.... Maybe
I can't fault them for not having a battle, but her story has still been lousy. Making a big deal about having a trial then burning a person to death 2 episodes later without a trial. Having a public execution at the worst possible time. Marrying a guy against his will. Barristan dying a meaningless death in a alley.
Chuck Norris
Banned
I really hope this story isn't abandoned, and it's more like a change of structure. By far the most interesting part of ADWD and still with room to include next season. While reading I felt the characters introduced in this part of the story really had the potential to expand the Danerys story to be as expansive as the Westeros stuff. They will need to make use of it next season.
The only relative he ever burns is his brother-in-law, for treason. The only innocent he ever considers in Edric, whom he loathes and is a bastard, and whom he's only convinced to burn after Melisandre pulls off the triple whammy. And really, Davos took Edric away before he could make his decision, so he never even explicitly makes up his mind, though I think it's safe to assume he was going to do it, if Davos believed he was really going to.
He's definitely not good, but he's not that. At least not yet.
Her whole arc is that she has no idea how to rule. They've done a good job portraying it in a much more concise manner and getting Tyrion there earlier to advise her makes it feel like an actual complete storyline instead of the mess that most ADWD arcs were.
cartoon_soldier
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That reinforces the Dany can conquer, she can't rule thing that show has going on.
gioGAF
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While books 1 through 3 were great and provided a more detailed story than the corresponding seasons, books 4 and 5 were mostly TRASH. The show is trumping the books now.
The never ending Brienne arc, the ridiculous Lady Stoneheart situation (I can't believe people actually think this comes across as a good arc, it is downright laughable), the Dorne and Ironborn arcs, Tyrion's never ending trip to Daenerys, FAegon+Connington, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. GRRM really went off the rails on books 4+5, and while the show is not perfect, it is a far more enjoyable experience than the meandering content of 4+5.
If the show had actually followed the books, they would have lost most of their audience since this season would be about characters the audience had never even been exposed to before. Just think, an episode 9 Kingsmoot instead of what we got, lol.
I can't wait for Sunday, episode 9 was epic, Drogon is like f'n superman!
The never ending Brienne arc, the ridiculous Lady Stoneheart situation (I can't believe people actually think this comes across as a good arc, it is downright laughable), the Dorne and Ironborn arcs, Tyrion's never ending trip to Daenerys, FAegon+Connington, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum. GRRM really went off the rails on books 4+5, and while the show is not perfect, it is a far more enjoyable experience than the meandering content of 4+5.
If the show had actually followed the books, they would have lost most of their audience since this season would be about characters the audience had never even been exposed to before. Just think, an episode 9 Kingsmoot instead of what we got, lol.
I can't wait for Sunday, episode 9 was epic, Drogon is like f'n superman!
In the books, she can't rule because ruling is hard and she's new at it. In the show, she can't rule because she's stupid and insane. She's one of my favorite characters in the books, I can understand all her decisions. In the show, I find her impossible to like. A 5 year old watching the show could see the public execution was a bad idea.
Cpt.Underpants
Member
Yeah, about that!
Fucking LOL
she's spending every waking minute saying "I'm just a little girl and don't know about such things".
she's sooooooo horny
Admiral Woofington
Member
If I had photoshopping skills I would put littlefinger in front of littlefinger
they're just lil clams
fun fact tho, "In England and Wales, Magna Carta grants every citizen the right to collect up to eight pounds of cockles from the foreshore."
bengraven
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They need to sell those shirts.
Pyramid head
Banned
Book version: Sansa is taken under Littlefinger's wing, he takes her to his home and shows how he has risen from nothing. Sansa finds a maternal instinct through caring for her 'Sweetrobin'. She is lined up to marry Harry the Heir, who seems like he might be a bit of a swine, but Sansa puts him in his place and soon has him eating out the palm of her hand.
Show: Raped. Wants to die.
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