I meant more for the season as a whole.
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I meant more for the season as a whole.
Maybe Dishonored 2 will cheer me up.
Ganzlinger
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Let's start.
KingHenrik30
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Oh he's working overtime all right...on WILDCARDS!
The last two books weren't that bad, and they are fucking masterpieces compared to this.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
So...who's going to be the main character in the Wall sections of the show? Davos and Melissandre? Olly?
Atraveller
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You had faith in D&D, now you lose!
StriKeVillain
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It's finally over.
Now we can start True Detective.
Now we can start True Detective.
Flacracker
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SHAME
biosnake20
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That was on some other shit bad.
That was not a good finale even though it had some cool moments.
Pros
- Arya's kill scene
- Theon/Sansa escape
- Cersei's atonement/walk (I thought it was the right length)
- Brienne killing Stannis
Cons
- Brienne leaving JUST as Sansa lights the candle.
- Stannis' storyline ended too abruptly. Just felt totally fucking hollow. I felt nothing.
- Anything to do with Daenerys. At least it ended like in the book, I guess.
- Dorne storyline with Myrcella... I guess you could give them a pat on the back after last week's curveball with Ellaria. But Myrcella's death did nothing.
- Expected Robert Strong to look cooler and bigger. Still, nice to see him.
- The final scene with Jon's stabbing. Fucking lame cliffhanger.
Pros
- Arya's kill scene
- Theon/Sansa escape
- Cersei's atonement/walk (I thought it was the right length)
- Brienne killing Stannis
Cons
- Brienne leaving JUST as Sansa lights the candle.
- Stannis' storyline ended too abruptly. Just felt totally fucking hollow. I felt nothing.
- Anything to do with Daenerys. At least it ended like in the book, I guess.
- Dorne storyline with Myrcella... I guess you could give them a pat on the back after last week's curveball with Ellaria. But Myrcella's death did nothing.
- Expected Robert Strong to look cooler and bigger. Still, nice to see him.
- The final scene with Jon's stabbing. Fucking lame cliffhanger.
But I liked the last two books.
Sickboy007
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Thanks, I had almost forgotten that. And Myrcella's pointless death.
m_shortpants
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well that was utterly disappointing.
hey guys DOOM on the bethesda conference!
hey guys DOOM on the bethesda conference!
Fair enough. I suppose he thought Jon would fail/die?
But fuck it, I am not in the business of justifying D&D's terrible decisions.
They even ruined the Arya stuff by poorly climaxing to her lost of sight.
Nazgul_Hunter
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Well, we know she has to die at some point.
Openly rebelling against Jon would've been risky for him, the way he did it wasn't.
Chance Hale
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It's going to be weird having no idea where the story is going now.
petethepanda
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Next episode opens with Brienne's sword shaking, planted in the tree next to Stannis, who's still sitting there. Next scene is the same shot of Jon as he jerks back to life and coughs blood up at the camera.
m_shortpants
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Also, you poor poor #TeamOllySaves folk need to change your avatars!!!
If they were anywhere near as good as SoS the show would be halfway through Book 4 at this point, not desperately rushing to book 6.
Exterminieren
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I enjoyed that. :/
The cliffhanger's a bad misstep, but they've set some nice stuff up for next season. Tyrion and Varys running Meereen could be great, and Arya and Cersei's plot lines were handled wonderfully.
The cliffhanger's a bad misstep, but they've set some nice stuff up for next season. Tyrion and Varys running Meereen could be great, and Arya and Cersei's plot lines were handled wonderfully.
KingHenrik30
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as did I
He should have done it before he left.
I didn't think it was a bad episode or anything, but it was certainly anti-hype.
- No corkscrew use (did I miss it or something?), super Ramsay survives.
- Mel abandoning Stannis and showing up at Winterfell at least hints at possible resurrection, but nothing in the actual moment? No "Ghost"? I guess without the Warg setup you can't have him just say it, would have to happen.. but some replacement?
- No LSH. Expected by now but still.
- Benjen fakeout... I mean it's just the previously on not the actual episode which left it hanging for 10 seconds, but yeah. Don't know why the preview needed 20 seconds of him for an excuse to bring him down when they could have said a thousand things.
- Brienne killing Stannis was one of the obvious potential outcomes, but we don't see the impact, don't see Brienne after, etc.
- Literally no extra event bringing on FTW?
Plus side... I liked Arya's scenes, the confession and Walk was good outside the weird flashes, and I actually liked the Stannis scenes prior to the death. It turns out burning your daughter in front of sell swords and some unbeliever followers is a mistake. Such a weakened force with no horses allowed it to be somewhat plausible for the Bolton's to ride out in force, though I don't know where that cavalry came from. The overhead shot was really nice. I thought he'd win last week, but Mel abandoning him made it clear he would lose.
- No corkscrew use (did I miss it or something?), super Ramsay survives.
- Mel abandoning Stannis and showing up at Winterfell at least hints at possible resurrection, but nothing in the actual moment? No "Ghost"? I guess without the Warg setup you can't have him just say it, would have to happen.. but some replacement?
- No LSH. Expected by now but still.
- Benjen fakeout... I mean it's just the previously on not the actual episode which left it hanging for 10 seconds, but yeah. Don't know why the preview needed 20 seconds of him for an excuse to bring him down when they could have said a thousand things.
- Brienne killing Stannis was one of the obvious potential outcomes, but we don't see the impact, don't see Brienne after, etc.
- Literally no extra event bringing on FTW?
Plus side... I liked Arya's scenes, the confession and Walk was good outside the weird flashes, and I actually liked the Stannis scenes prior to the death. It turns out burning your daughter in front of sell swords and some unbeliever followers is a mistake. Such a weakened force with no horses allowed it to be somewhat plausible for the Bolton's to ride out in force, though I don't know where that cavalry came from. The overhead shot was really nice. I thought he'd win last week, but Mel abandoning him made it clear he would lose.
Ugh I cringed so hard at that line..
Atraveller
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You guys also forgot how rushed Theon's story line was.
Haven't watched yet, but OK
Pretty much. SoS is the peak of the series.
Whenever I want to re-Read the series it and GoT are inevitably the only ones I bother with.
Who fucking knows at this point. He's probably still peeking through that hole in his fucked up whorehouse right now.
#TEAMPODSPENIS!
Cellbomber
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And people were over estimating a mad exodus if Jon dies.
Plenty of non book readers are enjoying the episodes as is..I'm fine with being behind again as the show passes the books. I was in this situation before and the reading is still interesting.
That is literally a line I expect from the XXX parody.
TheKaeptain
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They killed Jon tonight?
Going to get my pop corn and watch Twitter.
Going to get my pop corn and watch Twitter.
thewaffles
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She used it to pick the lock on her door.
Ok let me start from the top:
Stannis has the worst guards alive. No one notices half the army leaving with all the horses? What? Seriously? Fuck man.
Why was Stannis's fate left ambiguous if not to imply she may have reconsidered? In an episode where we get a man's eyes being stabbed the fuck out we can't have a Stannis head lopping? He ain't dead or they did a poor job of it.
The Meereen stuff was... alright, until the STEALTH DOTHRAKI HORDE. COME ONNNNN.
Dorne stuff ends with Doran's heir captive (dead eventually I'm sure because he obviously doesn't matter) and Myrcella dead (who thought she'd ever matter anyway) so it's kind of a wash. It wasn't horribly done but it was still cheesy.
Cersei was ALL CGI and it was distracting. Her face CGI'd onto someone else's body. Just the worst. The actual scene other than that was done well.
Jon getting killed because of the Wildling rescue.... after being led to a goofy signpost that says "traitor" on it by Olly..... Mel is going to say "Why not burn the body? He's got kingsblood." and then they're going to find out that the Dragon can't burn and that the fires have revived him. I can see it now.
Stannis is the most egregious thing. At least show me his corpse if he's dead.
Stannis has the worst guards alive. No one notices half the army leaving with all the horses? What? Seriously? Fuck man.
Why was Stannis's fate left ambiguous if not to imply she may have reconsidered? In an episode where we get a man's eyes being stabbed the fuck out we can't have a Stannis head lopping? He ain't dead or they did a poor job of it.
The Meereen stuff was... alright, until the STEALTH DOTHRAKI HORDE. COME ONNNNN.
Dorne stuff ends with Doran's heir captive (dead eventually I'm sure because he obviously doesn't matter) and Myrcella dead (who thought she'd ever matter anyway) so it's kind of a wash. It wasn't horribly done but it was still cheesy.
Cersei was ALL CGI and it was distracting. Her face CGI'd onto someone else's body. Just the worst. The actual scene other than that was done well.
Jon getting killed because of the Wildling rescue.... after being led to a goofy signpost that says "traitor" on it by Olly..... Mel is going to say "Why not burn the body? He's got kingsblood." and then they're going to find out that the Dragon can't burn and that the fires have revived him. I can see it now.
Stannis is the most egregious thing. At least show me his corpse if he's dead.
Yeah...Wasn't he trying to convince Cersei to make a play on the Stannis-Bolton battle? But then he betrayed Cersai to Olenna for reasons.
She used it to break the lock on her door to escape her chambers.
The problem is D&D are fucking garbage. There's a lot of good in the last two books in terms of dialogue/character interactions. But D&D only seem to care about scenes in the books where people are either dying or getting raped. So they don't have much to work with. And like half of A Feast for Crows is Cersei ranting so there you go.
petethepanda
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His "okay I'm good now" moment felt so arbitrary. They really failed to build towards anything at all with Winterfell and everyone there.
Is slapping people with your dick still considered socially unacceptable?
Because if not, that is exactly what GRRM should do to D&D. That line was disgraceful.
Ugh.
NickWright
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Well, I didn't dislike it (I found the Penance Walk to be a great scene like in the books), but it's true that in this finale, it's like all those show-created storylines didn't matter anymore:
"We bring Sansa to Winterfell as part of a Littlefinger scheme-thing? Lol no, Jeyne Poole time"
"Oh, you went all the way down to Dorne to check on Myrcella? Lol no, she's dead. Back to score 1".
"Don't even mention Tyrion and Dany meeting... we're just going to make him be the new Barristan"
ugh
At least Cersei, Arya and... no one else got nice resolutions to their specific storylines.
"We bring Sansa to Winterfell as part of a Littlefinger scheme-thing? Lol no, Jeyne Poole time"
"Oh, you went all the way down to Dorne to check on Myrcella? Lol no, she's dead. Back to score 1".
"Don't even mention Tyrion and Dany meeting... we're just going to make him be the new Barristan"
ugh
At least Cersei, Arya and... no one else got nice resolutions to their specific storylines.
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