Just for the cliffhanger.
The next season could start with Brienne chopping his head off and Pod running up all "Sansa needs our help!"
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Just for the cliffhanger.
The next season could start with Brienne chopping his head off and Pod running up all "Sansa needs our help!"
Interesting. Wonder why they didn't show an on screen death then unless.
#teamStannisIsAlive
Beelzebufo
Banned
Was refusing to show Stannis's death supposed to be out of respect for him or some shit? Because I think it's too late for that lol, they just confused everyone.
What a bunch of hack writers.
What a bunch of hack writers.
To be fair we're doing that here too, but for different reasons.
MisterShine
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Except the loads of people who only watch the show and have nothing bad to say about the writing? I have seen exactly 0 people who are confused about Stannis's actions or the Watch's. It is entirely book-readers with thinly veiled "But here's all this book evidence showing why it doesn't make sense!" Like your own damn post further up this page, for instance.
Obliterator
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I hope so, as honestly we've witnessed so many deaths it would be nice to ride with some of these characters for a bit longer, at least until the end. The ones though that I feel are completely fucking pointless to kill at this point though are Jon and Dany. Its constantly hinted that they are important to the Walkers and the End Game. That's why if Jon is truly dead I'm just fucking over it
Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe, just maybe, people who haven't read the books but dislike the show anyway don't post in 400 page threads about the show? That OTs are almost always overwhelmingly full of people who like the thing in question, at least on Off-Topic side. Whereas with the book thread, people who dislike the show still have a reason to stick around, because of the book discussion and potential hints about where TWOW is going.
It's not at all surprising that show-only threads on GAF and elsewhere are mostly positive. Non-readers who don't like the show have no reason to keep watching, much less getting into debates over it, five years in.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Don't believe it. They've never shied away from on screen death before and every time they've pretended to the person came back (ex. Theon)
Next year's theme will be surprising resurrections/survivings instead of just surprising deaths. We'll probably get a good number of those who are MIA to reappear too. Now that they don't have the books spoiling them, they can outright lie to hide their planned twists.
Atraveller
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To say only book purists don't like the show is laughable.
iRAWRasaurus
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Wonder why there was no scene death?
+ Arya kill scenesome great subtle mannerisms by Williams
+ Varys & TyrionI missed him too
+ Dragon CGI
+ Selyse scene
+/- Cersei walk of shamethought it was a bit long, but otherwise good
- good girl/bad pussyoh my God, who in the hell wrote that line?!
- Sansa lighting candle 2 seconds too late
- "Renly, the rightful king"
- Benjen fakeout & subsequent stabbing
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+ Varys & TyrionI missed him too
+ Dragon CGI
+ Selyse scene
+/- Cersei walk of shamethought it was a bit long, but otherwise good
- good girl/bad pussyoh my God, who in the hell wrote that line?!
- Sansa lighting candle 2 seconds too late
- "Renly, the rightful king"
- Benjen fakeout & subsequent stabbing
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Wouldn't Jaime turn right around and kill all the sand snakes?
I can't believe they saw all the shitty cliffhangers that were in the books that everyone hated it and they were like "Yeah, let's do that"
Weird that I feel so badly for Cersei. That's one scene that was done really well.
I can't believe they saw all the shitty cliffhangers that were in the books that everyone hated it and they were like "Yeah, let's do that"
Weird that I feel so badly for Cersei. That's one scene that was done really well.
No chance. They'd have set that up by showing his ability first. They love to do obvious foreshadowing to excuse iffy writing/convenient escapes.
Who's Ghost?
Obliterator
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My entire Facebook feed is all saying they are quitting. I do legit think if its confirmed in the season premier Jon is dead for good ratings are gonna drop. You can only pull this shit so much. Even Walking Dead is smart enough to know if they kill Daryl they will lose a ton of viewers.
Beelzebufo
Banned
Wolves are hard to train and are expensive to keep on set.
m_shortpants
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Shitty writing can still be popular. For the record everyone I know who watches the show has hated this season, and not one has read the books. For me, it's easier to notice shitty writing when there is good writing to compare it to, and I have plenty of reservations about some of GRRM's writing.
A dog who's about as important in the show world as Nymeria is
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Wut? Really? didnt know that :lol
People said the same thing about a Michelle Fairley interview years ago. That turned out to be true.
It could be good. Right now it's in The Walking Dead territory.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
That's exactly what I was doing. The interview is a farce.
WrenchNinja
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Yup.
No Theon heart tree scene = show is not worth defending
petethepanda
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I was so damn optimistic for the first few episodes of this season. It seemed like they were making all the right changes! But yeah, by the end it wound up being what I feared it would be.
The thing that sums it up the most for me is Brienne. Instead of wandering around looking for a fair maid of three and ten, she finds Sansa right off the bat? Fucking awesome, yes! ...And she spends the entire damn season sitting stationary outside Winterfell. Removing a frustrating-ish storyline and replacing it with nothing.
The thing that sums it up the most for me is Brienne. Instead of wandering around looking for a fair maid of three and ten, she finds Sansa right off the bat? Fucking awesome, yes! ...And she spends the entire damn season sitting stationary outside Winterfell. Removing a frustrating-ish storyline and replacing it with nothing.
MisterShine
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I mean specifically the types of arguments that appear in these threads. I hear consistently that Stannis's actions have been entirely illogical/nonsensical from book readers, yet I have never seen any show-only discussions say this, only that he has done a terrible thing and they're angry about it.
On the other hand, when the writing is actually crap, like pretty much all of Dorne this season, show and book people alike call it out as crap.
That's what I was trying to say. Some arguments are cloaked in "bad writing!" when what they actually mean is "it didn't happen like this in the books and that annoys me". Apologies if my meaning was unclear.
Except shitty writing in the show is routinely called out, as I say above. And we can trade anecdotal stories all we want. The viewership and fan discussions online are what matter.
biosnake20
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Almost everyone here will be back for next season so it doesn't matter anyway lol.
Let's not get crazy here.
NecromorphTX
Member
This season started slow, but the last 4 chapters...
And the soundtrack, still incredible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6NrFP__iAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_dNL6sMBP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyuPLBx4mFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOtcQiBp1_Q
John ;_;
And the soundtrack, still incredible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6NrFP__iAI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_dNL6sMBP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyuPLBx4mFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOtcQiBp1_Q
Obliterator
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Overall I actually still enjoy the show. My major game ender for me is Jon, and that applies to both the books AND the show. If he is dead I refuse to stay on this train.
Again, if GRRM wants him perma dead, then ok, kill him when we actually get to the main point of his fucking story
This right here. The last two books and particularly A Dance with Dragons is awful.
Beelzebufo
Banned
All of that stuff was referenced in the show too though. So it's not just in the books, it's in the show.
Is some consistency too much to ask? This is worse than the zombification of wights between season 1 and Hardhome.
Goddamn at that Viewer Guide image. That's what let slip the Night King thing last season too, wasn't it? I'd believe it.
They didn't show Syrio Forel's death onscreen, but he's clearly not coming back. Just one example that pops to mind because of the tinfoil brought on by the precap leak.
They didn't show Syrio Forel's death onscreen, but he's clearly not coming back. Just one example that pops to mind because of the tinfoil brought on by the precap leak.
SpaceHorror
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Man, Brienne sat around in those ruins all season just so she could kill Stannis. His entire plot in season 5 was contrivance after contrivance to get them together so she could kill him.
Fucking quality writing, folks.
Fucking quality writing, folks.
biosnake20
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I was hoping we would get an EW interview with D&D about season 6. Didn't we get one right after season 4 when they talked about how difficult it would be to do season 5?
er...
considering there's too much evidence pointing towards snow being azor ahai... and the only way GRRM accepted HBO's offer to do Game of Thrones was based on their answer to the question "who is Jon Snow's mother?"
there is way too much swirling around jon snow for him to be dead.
Beelzebufo
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Hey, it's not bad writing just because it didn't happen that way in the books! lol
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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You'd figure they'd at least have him back like Charles Dance to show them burning his body or something even if he was really dead. So yeah, his not coming back for next season is probably bullshit.
The Walking Dead had it's best season since the start though.
Byakuya769
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Haha. I'm adding this one to to the list.
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