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[Apt101]

I still don't get the Dorne plot moving forward. People keep saying they saved the plot with the Myrcella stuff. But now, Doran lost his future daughter in law, one who could've been a major power or heir to Casterly Rock, his only heir (in the show) is now in Lannister hands and the second chance he gave Ellaria seems to have backfired. Even in the books it didn't make much sense, but it's completely balls up in the show. So much for the 'we don't hurt little girls in Dorne'.

Unless Myrcella death is used as plot device for Jaime to move onto Riverlands or into Brienne arms or whatever. Maybe Jaime now becomes the character he was in books. Realizes he has no one who really loves him, he wasn't a father to his own children, he's nothing without his hand, there are no accolades in his white book for him, etc.

I guess that since almost all of the characters related to Dorne from the books aren't present, nor are most of the plot threads, the writers of the show figured it made more sense to have Ellaria try to start a war by murdering Mrycella and leaving the prince in Jaime's hands. Presumably she figures Cersei will kill or torture him, provoking war with Dorne.

That's my guess. The plots now diverge so wildly I don't know what to think. I know the entire GoT Dorne storyline has been awkward and boring to me.

 

[takriel]

I guess that since almost all of the characters related to Dorne from the books aren't present, nor are most of the plot threads, the writers of the show figured it made more sense to have Ellaria try to start a war by murdering Mrycella and leaving the prince in Jaime's hands. Presumably she figures Cersei will kill or torture him, provoking war with Dorne.

That's my guess. The plots now diverge so wildly I don't know what to think. I know the entire GoT Dorne storyline has been awkward and boring to me.

Yeah, Dorne was really lame this season. Hopefully it will pick up now that war seems to be on the horizon. But please, kill off these Sand Snakes already...

 

[Spikematic]

All the "bad pussy" comments here are cracking me up. It was easily the most atrocious line I've heard in years.

 

[Ape Gone Insane]

Why did Jon Snow stand in line for 6 hours at the Apple Store?

Spoiler

For the Watch

 

[m_shortpants]

Is this old?

Game of Thrones: Kit Harington confirms exit as he reveals he was SACKED from show

Yeah, not buying it.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Is this old?

Game of Thrones: Kit Harington confirms exit as he reveals he was SACKED from show

Laying it on pretty thick there.

 

[Jayof9s]

Haha we're all speculating that Theon and Sansa are still alive. But what if they're actually dead? The showrunners will be like: "Wait, you really thought they survived? We thought we made it pretty clear that they died there jumping off that wall..."

In their defense, there's no way they would have survived that fall. I can't help but wonder if everyone that keeps saying "but there was snow!" are from southern climates and have never interacted with snow or are just basing that on normal television logic.

At least in the book the drifts were about half way up the walls. There was like half a foot of snow shown when they looked down in the show and if the snow was melting everywhere it would be hard packed...

It was just one of many moments that left me rolling my eyes during the finale. I enjoyed it overall but some parts just felt so contrived.

 

[graffix13]

Yeah, not buying it.

Laying it on pretty thick there.

Looking at it from the other angle though...

What if he REALLY is dead? What is he suppose to say? It's like he's trying to tell fans of the show he really is dead and gone, he can't say it more clearly, yet people are still in denial.

I want him to be rezzed by Mel, but I'm starting to want him to be gone for good just to see the complete fan meltdown when he doesn't show up next season. It would be...entertaining.

 

[Rentahamster]

So now that you all know what a fuckhead Olly is, how will you feel during your rewatch of season 4, when his village and parents get destroyed and eaten?

 

[Burt]

So now that you all know what a fuckhead Olly is, how will you feel during your rewatch of season 4, when his village and parents get destroyed and eaten?

Death of a child, birth of a monster.

It's like Bruce Wayne turning into the Joker instead of Batman.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Looking at it from the other angle though...

What if he REALLY is dead? What is he suppose to say? It's like he's trying to tell fans of the show he really is dead and gone, he can't say it more clearly, yet people are still in denial.

I want him to be rezzed by Mel, but I'm starting to want him to be gone for good just to see the complete fan meltdown when he doesn't show up next season. It would be...entertaining.

Why does he have to say anything? He just got the shit stabbed out of him. Sean Bean didn't have to make a statement saying he's not coming back next season.

 

[Ape Gone Insane]

So now that you all know what a fuckhead Olly is, how will you feel during your rewatch of season 4, when his village and parents get destroyed and eaten?

 

[BoogerFart]

Some redditor in Belfast reporting something interesting. If it's true, of course.

Edit: oops sorry, posting from mobile, thought it linked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/39t7ns/spoilers_all_kit_harington_hints_got_season_6_info/

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Now that's what I call back stabbing!

 

[NeoGiff]

Some redditor in Belfast reporting something interesting. If it's true, of course.

Don't link it or anything.

Now that's what I call back stabbing!

Now THIS is

Spoiler

bad pussy

.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I butchered that quote. Just like ollie and d&d butchered Jon.

 

[Red Arremer]

All the "bad pussy" comments here are cracking me up. It was easily the most atrocious line I've heard in years.

https://youtu.be/ks9VeB5vI70?t=8m25s

 

[biosnake20]

Yohn Royce will be back for Season 6.He's filming in July and December.

 

[Exterminieren]

Yohn Royce will be back for Season 6.He's filming in July and December.

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

 

[Ratrat]

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

Jeyne Poole doesn't have any story left for Sansa to borrow.

 

[cubicle47b]

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

Littlefinger is going to clean up what's left of Ramsay's 20 good men with forces from the Vale.

 

[Real Hero]

lmao if littlefinger just takes her back the vale and they carry on with where the books left her. Worst storyline in a HBO show ever?

 

[Lothar]

Don't you guys remember that Littlefinger is going to Winterfell with a Vale army? That's why they're not finished with the Vale characters.

I hated the last two episodes too bit I seriously doubt Sansa is going back to the Vale.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

Onwards to Harry the Heir. Husband #3!

 

[eot]

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

 

[Jayof9s]

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

Hopefully he'll just be in the army that Littlefinger is bringing north because otherwise... Yeah, that'd be awful storytelling.

 

[Euron]

"Hey so I know I fucked up and traumatized you but I have this guy the Vale you can marry. No don't worry I swear it won't be like last time. Wait where are you going? The Manderlys aren't in the show and Stannis is dead you have nowhere to run."

 

[Patriots7]

Yohn Royce was all about protecting the Vale and Robert Arryn from Littlefinger.
He was also close with Ned.

In the show he's just a pacified idiot who has Robert in his custody.

Sansa is not going back to the Vale.
Her storyline from the books would make no sense. Littlefinger is not as smart as Book Littlefinger and in the show he doesn't have a tenuous grasp on the Vale.

He already has the Vale forces marching to Winterfell.

Sansa continuing her book storyline would mean that her storyline this season was just for shock value, and numerous people on this board assured me that there was a better reason for her being in Winterfell. I have faith in D&D.

Spoiler

She's going to go to the Wall or to Last Hearth to find Rickon.

 

[Emerson]

Some redditor in Belfast reporting something interesting. If it's true, of course.

Edit: oops sorry, posting from mobile, thought it linked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/39t7ns/spoilers_all_kit_harington_hints_got_season_6_info/

lol

Not sure if it's true or not, in any case they're not filming yet so I'm not sure why him being in Belfast would matter.

Regardless I love the developing narrative of D&D desperately scrambling to keep the worst kept secret in TV history.

 

[Speevy]

Yohn Royce just shows up outside of Winterfell.


"Wait, how the bloody hell did we get here? This doesn't make any geographical sense."

 

[graffix13]

Why does he have to say anything? He just got the shit stabbed out of him. Sean Bean didn't have to make a statement saying he's not coming back next season.

Right but:

1. It's Sean Bean. He dies in everything, so people know he's gone for good.
2. It's Season 5, and Kit has quite the following. Not to mention the book hints at him not being dead.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.

 

[Speevy]

Does anyone like my trojan horse idea?


Presumably any army with Sansa Stark would be welcomed past Moat Cailin with open arms, right?

 

[Yankee Ruin X]

Any sightings of Kit in Belfast will probably be played off for a funeral scene they need him for.

 

[Speevy]

Any sightings of Kit in Belfast will probably be played off for a funeral scene they need him for.

"And now we ended his watch."

 

[Veritigo_X]

Any sightings of Kit in Belfast will probably be played off for a funeral scene they need him for.

"Jeez they sure are doing a lot of filming for this funeral scene."

 

[Pyramid head]

Hopefully he'll just be in the army that Littlefinger is bringing north because otherwise... Yeah, that'd be awful storytelling.

Does the Vale have a big enough army to take out the one million troops who wiped the floor with Stannis?

 

[hendersonhank]

I just can't get enough of the hilarious "invincible Ramsay" and "20 good men" meme!

Because it's just impossible to believe that 20 guys born and bred in the north could, under cover of a blizzard, sneak into a camp of an exhausted and demoralized army, most of them mercenaries with no loyalty, all with no experience in the north, and set fire to their supplies.

 

[Speevy]

Does the Vale have a big enough army to take out the one million troops who wiped the floor with Stannis?

I'm assuming the Boltons have about 8,000 troops, reinforced by other armies and Stannis' own sellswords.

Littlefinger pointed to Stannis having the larger force at the start of the season.

There were probably about 2,000 men left in Stannis' army before the routing.

 

[Speevy]

I just can't get enough of the hilarious "invincible Ramsay" and "20 good men" meme!

Because it's just impossible to believe that 20 guys born and bred in the north could, under cover of a blizzard, sneak into a camp of an exhausted and demoralized army, most of them mercenaries with no loyalty, all with no experience in the north, and set fire to their supplies.

It's not what they did. It's how it was filmed.

Suddenly tents seemed to catch fire as though remotely ignited, and ALL the siege weapons were gone, ALL the food stores were gone.

Either Davos is a drama queen or Ramsay has some inside information.

 

[Crisco]

They should have shown exactly how Ramsay and his 20 good man burned the tents. It's not terribly hard to imagine. Sneak in, drop some flammable materials next to each tent, and then shoot a bunch of fire arrows from the cliff above the encampment. I'm chalking it up to running out of budget.

 

[hendersonhank]

Eh. It's like when he ran off the ironborn. It's not like it was just him in his underwear. He had armed and armored guys behind him and, yes, a pack of dogs. The ironborn were outnumbered. The scene sucked but it doesn't mean Ramsay would have just chopped everyone up by himself. Nor did we see him fight in this battle, for all we know he just waited in the back until it was over and then went around stabbing wounded people. There is actually NO evidence that he is some remarkable fighter in the show, in fact we haven't seen him fight a single time or heard about him fighting.

 

[Latvian Hitman]

Right but:

1. It's Sean Bean. He dies in everything, so people know he's gone for good.
2. It's Season 5, and Kit has quite the following. Not to mention the book hints at him not being dead.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate.

Plus, Ned's execution was not the final scene of season one.

 

[hendersonhank]

They should have shown exactly how Ramsay and his 20 good man burned the tents. It's not terribly hard to imagine. Sneak in, drop some flammable materials next to each tent, and then shoot a bunch of fire arrows from the cliff above the encampment. I'm chalking it up to running out of budget.

Or oil + wicks. It's not like timed fires are some incredible new invention.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

If Sansa goes back to the Vale, I will be pissed. VERY pissed.

Actually will make sense.

D&D didn't want Sansa to just do nothing to did the stupid Winterfell thing and now she can follow the completer book storyline.

 

[Crisco]

Or oil + wicks. It's not like timed fires are some incredible new invention.

Yeah, but they did already establish Ramsay as a decent marksman. Plus nothing looks better on TV than flaming arrows across a dark sky.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Yeah, but they did already establish Ramsay as a decent marksman. Plus nothing looks better on TV than flaming arrows across a dark sky.

The 20 good men weren't even really needed. Ramsay did everything the 20 good men were there to document it for history books.

 

[Speevy]

Speaking of new inventions, does Doran have that awesome wheelchair in the books?

Cuz you know, that would really move industry along if they figured out how to make a damn wheelchair.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Plus, Ned's execution was not the final scene of season one.

And it's usually a bit more difficult to heal a decapitation

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Plus, Ned's execution was not the final scene of season one.

And we saw his head. Well I think that was supposed to be his head, it looked kind of like a caveman from one of those fucking Geico commercials. And George W. was there too, until they erased him.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Some redditor in Belfast reporting something interesting. If it's true, of course.

Edit: oops sorry, posting from mobile, thought it linked.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/39t7ns/spoilers_all_kit_harington_hints_got_season_6_info/

If it IS true, way to play it cool there, Kit. Instead of telling the Redditor "I'm just sitting here having lunch" or possibly "hey, piss off" he told him "hey man, I'm just here filming season 6 of the show, now don't tell anyone, lol!"