Ocarina_117
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I will forever be salty with their treatment of Stannis.
The one true king.
I really dislike Brienne's character as a result. I wonder how they deal with a scene between Brienne and Davos - I'm guessing poorly.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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I will forever be salty with their treatment of Stannis.
The one true king.
I really dislike Brienne's character as a result. I wonder how they deal with a scene between Brienne and Davos - I'm guessing poorly.
Dusk Soldier
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Her unsullied is only 8000 soldiers that's not a large army by any means. Plus it's mostly infantry, whereas the Dothraki are more like cavalry.
bishopcruz
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Is anyone else tired of just how by the numbers many scenes are at this point? The High Sparrow can do nothing but preach about the evil of man and religiosity, Tyrion does nothing but quip, Dany looks imperious and repeats her titles, and Ramsey has the crazy eyes and threatens someone or does something evil.
Outdoor Miner
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Drinking wine and making dick jokes.
gigantor21
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It really is starting to feel old hat in some regards. I find myself shrugging at a lot compared to previous seasons, particularly the stuff that is meant to be brutal or shocking.
cartoon_soldier
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cartoon_soldier
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The army that lost to Harpies though
Chuckie
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Yup. Well at least in the TV series. I am still convinced he did warg into Ghost in the books.
It seems in the series really only Bran has the ability. They also skipped the 'Arya warging into cats and Nymeria' stuff.
Jon routinely warged into Ghost, though passively. Arya does the same with Nymeria. There's also a few powerful wilding wargs who recognize Jon as one of them. It's implied all of the Stark siblings have the ability in some capacity. I suppose they cut all of that out of the show to simplify the narrative for viewers and probably to save on budget.
Yeah they're probably ditching warging for Jon and Arya's storylines completely for the show.
Yeah, it also doesn't feel any different from Season 5. They must have really thought they did a wonderful job with Season 5 because they're just doing the same stuff again.
High Sparrow is still giving the same speeches. The small counsel is rejecting Cersei again. Jaime is still doing nothing and there's no progression of his character. Ramsay has a new girl to rape for the season. Dorne is still awful. Arya is still getting beat on with sticks. Dany is even more boring since she's away from the good actors.
The scenes at the Wall are good but that was the case for Season 5 too.
The High Sparrow made a move to take the King under his influence. Tyrion learned more about the conflict in Meereen and made moves to fix it (speaking of which, the Varys scene was awesome. Hoping to see more of that from him this season). Dany indeed is repeating herself but that's nothing new, hopefully something interesting happens in her "trial". And I know why everyone's tired of Ramsay but I'm interested in seeing how he leads the Boltons to their downfall now that he's in charge.
A wolfpack coming out of nowhere, with a connection to Arya, tearing someone apart? Sounds like something the show would do.
LifEndz
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I listen to several GoT's podcasts and it's funny how many of them watched that tower of joy scene and came away with the impression that Ned lied about beating Dayne in combat. I always thought Ned simply left it as if it wasn't for Howland Reed he'd be dead. Maybe the show confused that for people.
WaffleTaco
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The King's Landing arc wasn't completed last season. This is Part 2, same with Arya. We have no idea if Ramsay will rape Osha. Dorne hasn't been in since episode one.
I think the show rewrote it to make it seem like Ned lied to Bran. IIRC Bran flat out said "Father told me he beat him" and then acted a bit miffed when Howland stabbed Dayne in the back.
In the books Ned gives all the credit to Howland Reed though. Maybe that was only in his own internal dialog? I don't remember if he actually told Bran or anyone else that.
LifEndz
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Ahhhh, gotcha. I'm on my third re-read and I may have just replaced the show's nonsense with the superior book dialogue. Plus I was probably too taken aback by Darth Dayne and his spinning sword show to hear what Bran said.
When Bran first meets Jojen in the show Bran says that Howland saved Ned's life, although he doesn't say when / how.
20 good pups.
The show doesn't say that.
- He's better than my father.
- Far better.
- But father beat him.
- Did he?
- I know he did. Heard the story a thousand times.
That's no excuse for showing the same things over again. I'd rather see Arya go around in the town learning how to be blind and warging into cats than multiple scenes of her getting beat on. Kings Landing part 2 should involve Jaime growing as a character and a split between Jaime and Cersei, not the same old same old boring crap.
That's like saying we don't know if Dany will say her titles and be annoying or we don't know if Tyrion will drink and make quips.
People don't like the High Sparrow? I love that guy. His little speeches are some of D&D's best work. He knows exactly how to manipulate everyone and he's slowly gaining allies where it counts. I don't know what the wants but I find the buildup riviting.
I'm also intrigued by Dany despite her obsession with titles. Just as long as they don't make her a damsel again. It was bad enough they turned her into a damsel last season.
I'm also intrigued by Dany despite her obsession with titles. Just as long as they don't make her a damsel again. It was bad enough they turned her into a damsel last season.
biosnake20
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Yup, I've felt like this too. He feels like one of the only characters who has really high quality writing at this point. Tyrion is a huge downgrade, hope they focus more on him soon (not just screentime).
Excellent. This guy is great, and he has lots of other GoT videos relating to battle strategies employed in the show, and a brilliant one on the shit season 5 Dorne fight scene. You guys should watch his stuff.
Maybe I'm being dense, but I don't get the thorn imagery here. Is the implication that Jesus Snow has hanged Thorne with his crown of...
Oh shit, I literally just got it after writing the word "thorn".
Yeah, it's very literal lol
biosnake20
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"I fought. I lost. Now I rest" I loved this line and Owen's delivery of it.
"God's Beard!"
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Pretty good, but he compared this fight as more western than the Mountain fight, but it seems to me that Dayne's fighting style is more Eskrima than traditional western techniques.
Thumbs up!
Steelyuhas
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In the books, Ned says Dayne would've beat him "were it not for Howland Reed", but Catelyn also mentions that "they [people of Winterfell] whispered of Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, deadliest of the seven knights of Aerys's Kingsguard, and of how their young lord had slain him in single combat." It's easy to see how a 10yr old Bran would grow up thinking his Dad beat him 'fair and square'. The show pretty much conveys how Bran would feel given the truth.
Napalm_Frank
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cj_iwakura
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Wow, I forgot about these. What were the last two?
Purple Cheeto
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So just like book 4b?
"Where do whores go?"
"If I look back I am lost"
"Kill the boy"
Etc etc.
grandjedi6
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Even though the show has created original plotlines, they still have to deal with the same issues that books 4 & 5 did. Namely that half the characters are waiting on the other half of the characters to catch up/get in place before they can move along with their own plots. GRRM handled this in the books by making a bunch of new pointless characters for the waiting characters to interact with. But since the show is trying to contract the plotlines rather than expand them now, their solution is to instead have people waffle about, train or go on sidequests (or just killed off). Hence why Tyrion is waiting around for Dany and the Greyjoys or why everyone in King's landing is waiting for the Faith plotline to reach its climax.
whitemex88
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One or two repeated sentences in a chapter is pretty different from a character having the same conversation in every scene and nothing else.
80s Bad Guy
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I can't help feeling like Gendry should have been more important to the series by now.
grrm and his damn bastard fetish
grrm and his damn bastard fetish
The thing is they don't just have to wait. I don't understand why Jaime and Cersei are not fighting at the very least, as they did constantly in the first half of AFOC. That would create drama, be more entertaining, and make Jaime a more likable character. Part of Jaime's transformation into a changed more noble character is supposed to be that he no longer wants to fuck/rape his sister anymore.
cj_iwakura
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I swear all the cool stuff is posted in the no book thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vcQdcaYPA0
And it's amusing to see them speculating about the book stuff, glad to see it's not that vague. (They're wondering if Lyanna's alive.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vcQdcaYPA0
And it's amusing to see them speculating about the book stuff, glad to see it's not that vague. (They're wondering if Lyanna's alive.)
reelbigtink
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Do non-book folks really hate the Bran junk that much? It's my favorite stuff.
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