No, the one Tyrion and Varys were looking at this season, lol.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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No, the one Tyrion and Varys were looking at this season, lol.
I don't expect we'll ever see Nymeria again on the show.
The tales over the successive books of Nymeria's wolfpack growing in size and boldness with its attacks on the countryside is one of my favorite little details of ASOIAF. I don't recall the showing having any of them, though.
And if we do, she'll probably be offed offscreen quietly like Shaggydog or destroyed quickly like Summer. And my heart can't take that D:
The tales over the successive books of Nymeria's wolfpack growing in size and boldness with its attacks on the countryside is one of my favorite little details of ASOIAF. I don't recall the showing having any of them, though.
MagicWithEarvin
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Don't ya know? He's the hide and seek king!
demosthenes
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People are speculating that he's the only possible deus ex machina to get bran to saftey.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Brienne might be traveling in her vicinity. Maybe Nymeria is Lady Stoneheart in the show.
LordOfChaos
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"Who ate my bread?"
"No one did."
"Who made this mess in my room?"
"No one."
"...I don't want to stay here anymore."
"No one did."
"Who made this mess in my room?"
"No one."
"...I don't want to stay here anymore."
Interceptor
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I watched the episode once (stayed up to watch live) and thought it was garbage. On second viewing with people and damn it was much better and those Hodor and Summer scenes got me right in the feels even though I knew it going to happen.
Still not getting Euron, he seems too normal. His speech was just ok and not as over the top as I would have liked. The whole execution of the Kings Moot seemed clumsy and I'm not sure what Euron is going to do without a fleet.
Damn Hodor.
Still not getting Euron, he seems too normal. His speech was just ok and not as over the top as I would have liked. The whole execution of the Kings Moot seemed clumsy and I'm not sure what Euron is going to do without a fleet.
Damn Hodor.
Cesare Borgia
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I thought the play was weak too but understandable. It's very well written and semi serious in the Winds sample chapter, including some fun nods to Shakespeare.
The theatre scene was so boring and bad, especially thanks to the gratuitous nudity, that killed all my expectations for the rest of the episode. And then the door hit me in the face
I thought it worked. Made a girl who is no one remember she is and will always be Arya Stark. Jaqen precisely sent her there for this.
I think she will end up using needle on the waif and saying a girl has chosen, a girl is Arya Stark. 2 seasons of her getting bloodied etc.
Honestly, the Faceless Men are one of the details of the books that annoy me, just because they're basically omnipotent but saddled with a wholly arbitrary pricing system that seems designed mainly to explain why the major characters in the series can't make use of them.
cartoon_soldier
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Question is how does Jaqen react to that. And whether Arya really learns how to change faces or not.
A Song of Fire and Ice, cuz
They're not omnipotent, they're just very good at their job. The price they charge is not meant to be an excuse of why they cannot be used, but rather an indication of their philosophy on the world. Every person has a price, the question is whether you're willing to pay it. The narrative has shown over and over again that characters have no problems getting people they want killed, killed, if they're really determined. They don't need to pay a ton of money to a well known assassin's guild to do it.
CornBurrito
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Why is there a time loop paradox in this series
Orbis Tabula
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So, I guess Bran just low key learned a pretty damn useful offensive ability on the Warging skill tree. They should just start having him Mind Crush every major antagonist by linking their past and future selves until they can only say something stupid like he did with Hodor.
If he could, that person would already be saying something stupid.
Time is a Flat Circle.alrightalrightalright
InfiniteBento
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Fuuuuuck. I didn't even consider this but I like the idea.
Orbis Tabula
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Words Are Wind
Where Whores Go
You Know Nothing
It Is Known
You raped her! You murdered her! You killed her children!
Man, Bran has already done it, shit!
CornBurrito
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I like how "Words are Wind" as a phrase started on Westeros in like... book 4, and magically spread itself to every continent and culture at the same time.
radios shipping overview
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Arya's reaction to the play reminds me of the reactions I have to the show pretty regularly. Could D&D be that self-aware?
Also, I guess Bronn went back to his home planet, just like Gendry and all of Dorne.
Also, I guess Bronn went back to his home planet, just like Gendry and all of Dorne.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Nuncle. Fuck that fucking word, it's so irritating. Introduced in AFFC and all of a sudden it's commonly used. Had it just been Asha, it wouldn't have been bad because maybe that's just her term. But Jaime and/or his cousin use it too. Maybe some other characters too, it's been awhile.
He can only (or is destined to only) fuck with those who have already been fucked with, that's how closed time loops work.
CopperPuppy
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Maybe I missed something, but Davos still doesn't know that both Stannis and Shireen are dead, correct?
But Varys, somehow, does? How did Varys get this information?
But Varys, somehow, does? How did Varys get this information?
CornBurrito
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https://ventrellaquest.com/2014/04/20/got-got/
That blog post is from 2014... holy fucccck
Also any thoughts on why Coldhands has been dropped entirely? I honestly think it is because they don't want to confuse viewers by introducing any "grey" morality. They've made all the bad characters like cartoonishly evil if they weren't in the books (TOO OLD!!!!), and I think they believe a non-evil whitewalker would just be too much for viewers to handle.
And also how much are we betting that Tyrion is actually a secret Targaryen? Seems more and more plausible.
Wait is Stannis confirmed dead?
That blog post is from 2014... holy fucccck
Also any thoughts on why Coldhands has been dropped entirely? I honestly think it is because they don't want to confuse viewers by introducing any "grey" morality. They've made all the bad characters like cartoonishly evil if they weren't in the books (TOO OLD!!!!), and I think they believe a non-evil whitewalker would just be too much for viewers to handle.
And also how much are we betting that Tyrion is actually a secret Targaryen? Seems more and more plausible.
Wait is Stannis confirmed dead?
Blue Ninja
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Brienne told him she killed Stannis last episode. Melisandre pretty much said Shireen is dead, too. So he knows.
And Varys still has his little birds.
No way Stannis is alive in the show
Liquidsnake
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Well I would like Benjen to come back and do something honorable. I haven't seen him since Season 1, I assumed he died beyond the wall.
CornBurrito
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I thought they were going to be sneaky by having him die off screen.
CopperPuppy
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Ah, right, right. I forgot Brienne admitted as much to Davos. I think the lack of a reaction or seemingly any type of fallout made it slip my mind.
If my memory serves me right, though, Melisandre did not tell him that Shireen is dead. In fact, there was a surprising lack of follow-up by his character on the whole situation.
Why is there a time loop paradox in this series
It's a closed loop, there is no paradox.
Also Bran is not time travelling.
Sorry for the 4chan speak, but I found this funny
InfiniteBento
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Unless Brienne was lying, this seems unlikely.
It's been a joke for years. I can't believe D & D (or GRRM) went with the joke/Crab people solution to their story. They may have even read the joke online.
Of course he is. This isn't TWD where unless you see it happen, assume otherwise. Stannis was wounded, barely standing in the middle of winter and propped against a tree. Just because they cut away before the strike doesn't mean he's alive. Roose Bolton asked who did it too because he probably saw dead Stannis and like 4 Bolton men etc.
And then Brienne straight up tells Ser Davos and Melisandre that she executed him. Show stannis is dead for sure. They even did a beautiful death poster for him with the cut in the tree with blood and stags looking on in the distance.
bitbydeath
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When scenes jump between characters it doesn't mean they are near or around the same timeframe.
This applies to both books and show.
On Coldhands: Probably because he would be too difficult to explain.
On Tyrion: Nope, I will never go along with that theory. If it turns out to be true, it'll be the stupidest thing ever. It doesn't fit with Tyrion's character progression at all.
On Stannis: Yes, he is very, very dead.
Some of the writing feels like a parody of itself at this point, although that climactic scene was really well done. It kind of feels like reading the plot on Wikipedia though, seeing this stuff in the show first, if you know what I mean? The twists and big events are so much more rich and substantial in the books, and I think they've hit that high a few times in the show, my particular favourite being how they handled Oberyn Martell.
Sure, but this one feels like quite a stretch.
Sure, but this one feels like quite a stretch.
Coldhands is explicitly not an Other. His hands are *black*.
The problem lies in the fact that the show is not clear at all about the different timeframes. Sure, it would be tacky to put a "The Eyre, 299" thing at the start, but the way it's done now is super confusing for most viewers. It's not like this is some niche complaint, basically everybody I know that watches makes jokes about Littlefinger and his rocket-powered horses.
My wording may of been strong, but this is the BOOK spoilers thread and I have read the books and watch the show, so I'm not sure what you mean by "you people".
I also spend a lot of time reading online discussions about entertainment I enjoy and occasionally get burned out by the negativity, so my main challenge is for folks to explain there opinion as much as is reasonable. (reactions during airtime being an exception)
I think well thought out responses for why someone disliked the reveal are great. I am skeptical of folks who say "This is stupid. LULZ" and remove themselves from the discussion.
To the credit of this thread, at least, most folks are backing up there reasons for disliking the reveal and even I have given my own criticisms for the reveal (time travel shenanigans) as well.
Ape Gone Insane
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There's a forum post that goes back to 2008. Beat that.
Book canon is not show canon.
Perfect comparison. I can't believe they screwed up the mystical, badass pirate. That should have been a shoe-in.
CornBurrito
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It makes sense though. We know at least one fortune teller said he was important. A small man with a big shadow.
He is inherently good at taming dragons. A trait usually found in Targs.
The Mad King Aerys had a thing for Joanna. And may have raped her.
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