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He can just teleport through that shit, brah.
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He can just teleport through that shit, brah.
Who do you think "the rest of the realm" even are? More-or-less simultaneously, Balon got couped, Roose got couped, Cersei got couped. As far as we know the Baratheons are extinguished. The Tyrells are mixed up in the Sparrow mess, and The Vale has been isolationist since Jon Aryn's death.
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The great naval empire of The Eyrie
But then he must have already taken his army past it earlier at some point. Which would have been equally impossible.
I mean I guess he could have pretended to be on the side of the Bolton's and be let through, but would the Boltons really be that dumb?
Yeah, we all know this is what will happen :/
Why would Ramsay agree to that?
He'll have no problem kicking ass on his own.
But the Waif killed Lady Crane... #justified
Skagos still gots cannibals.
Not only killed her, but killed her like the demon from "It Follows". Like she broke her over a chair or something, I don't even know what that was supposed to be.
I had an inkling she would be saved by the actress she had 'saved' the previous episode. I just thought it would be pretty stupid with the extent of injuries she had. Proof I'm not just shouting 'called it' afterwards: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=205816733&highlight=#post205816733
that chase scene through Braavos was comical (not to mention that Aria is pretty agile for someone who has been repeatedly stabbed in the belly the other day). Let's be honest, the Waif was just an awful character and the whole Braavos arc a waste if time, but at least we're done with it now and Jaqen is still quite alright
also worth noting that the season immediately improved when the Hound showed up. Maybe the lack of the Hound is what really brought down S5
also worth noting that the season immediately improved when the Hound showed up. Maybe the lack of the Hound is what really brought down S5
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I would certainly agree with anyone who thinks the books did (will do) it better, but I still think the destination for her is the same.
I'm not saying she wasn't justified, just that she's no more merciful now than when she killed Trant.
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The lack of consequences and how ALL of Dorne had to be in cahoots with the Sand Snakes has been my main problem with the Dorne plot.
It was completely redundant too - they could've given us a scene of Cersei opening up that cool snake-shaped letter box and read a message that Myrcella was killed and Dorne is preparing to march on the Lannisters in revenge for Oberyn's death.
Boom, done. No need for bad pussy or other dumbass shit.
The Vale does have naval power. For starters, the Three Sisters are somewhat of a pirate haven, and then of course there's Gulltown, which is one of the bigger coastal cities in Westeros. Gulltown is basically the trading hub of the Vale. The fifth biggest city iirc as well, after King's Landing, Lannisport, Oldtown and White Harbour.
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Yeah, but execution matters. But I guess it's much easier in the books where you can get inside the heads of the characters. Arya taking on different identities has been a huge part of her story throughout all the books. Having her go through this journey to find herself will make more sense there.
I also fully expect her using her warging powers to get out of a similar predicament in the book, further rooting her in her identify as a Stark.
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The only acceptable "character development" around here seems to be a fight between major characters. I guess Arya simply didnt kill enough people on screen to not have been a "waste" of time.
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Are we eight for eight on episodes with dick references/jokes/visuals in this season? Do you think they'll manage a perfect score by the end?
Physical destination (Westeros)? Absolutely. Character arc desintation? I really don't think so.
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True. I just wish they had executed it better, is all. There was some kind of compelling story in there.
"Mercy" is literally the only thing Waif was unwilling to give her. If anything, Arya is more "fuck mercy" than ever, although she didn't kill Jaqen. So there's that.
She just cut her throat, the actress then fell over, having been standing on a stool.
What!? That's not true at all. Character development means growth or change. That's what matters. I don't know where you're getting "Arya didn't kill enough people" from.
She killed mercilessly before going to Braavos. She killed mercilessly leaving Braavos.
So why are people criticizing Jaime's character yesterday? It read to me as him upholding at least more honor than people would give him credit for by not directly attacking the castle and resolving the conflict (mostly) by diplomacy. It legitimized much of what was setup by his relationship to Brienne in the prior seasons. In an episode filled to the brim with pointless callbacks and poor resolutions, Jaime's stuff seemed pretty good.
How is she not more merciful? She was defending herself from the Waif whereas Trant was a gruesome, vengeful murder.
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Don't think the Sistermen would follow the call to arms, but you're right about Gulltown, so I guess that's how they do it. Hopefully they go through White Harbour and join up with the Manderlys.
I think people are just pissed that he's in a different space with regards to his relationship to Cersei than in the books. In the context of the shower, his actions last episode were congruent with his character, and in the end the way the siege on Riverrun was ended was pretty close to how it went in the books. I didn't mind that part of the episode at all.
Are you saying that Arya before Braavos is the same Arya after Braavos? because that is simply not true.
edit: you and your ninja edits, she did not kill "mercilessly", she saved her own ass, the Red God needed a face and she gave it. It's not really that complicated honestly.
This is what I was wondering might happen. Come in through that way, and sit just north of The Neck.
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For me, it was all the "I live and breathe for Cersei" stuff. Especially after his great scenes with Brienne, his one true waifu.
EDIT: As said above, it's...fairly consistent with his TV character, I guess. But his TV character turning back to Cersei and just being there to help her, was already a reversal on his path towards redemption in the show.
Pycelle has been hiding cookies.
If she was merciful and shunned the Faceless Men ways, she wouldn't have gruesomely sliced off her enemy's face. That's the opposite of showing mercy. Imagine if she had given The Hound "mercy" in S4 by cutting off his face. Would that have made sense? Would you say " She's learned mercy!" as she holds his face?
You're responding to two different conversations.
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If they involve the Manderlys, that would at least slightly redeem this season's North storyline
The Hound wasn't trying to kill Arya. She's vengeful, sure, but the mercy she displayed is her refusing to follow the Faceless Men's MO and kill Lady Crane just because.
Moff
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that's the obvious first thought but wouldn't that be weird since it's hardly a secret that tyrion used those to blow up stannis' fleet in the blackwater? people did not wonder where that huge explosion came from?
maybe D&D just forgot
She never killed just because, though. She always killed with a purpose. That wasn't something she learned in Braavos.
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Separate. That was stock that KL had, this is from Aerys time I think.
Moff
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are you saying tyrion did not take wildfire from aerys's stash? that's not how I remember it, but I could be completely wrong
Tyrion used freshly made wildfire, the old king had a secret stash he was planning to use when the city fell.
He was never evil even in the beginning. When he killed Aerys, it was to save lives.
The fact that he said he would kill everyone to get back with his awful sister as fast as possible who he shouldn't even see eye to eye with now is still ridiculously shitty.
Anton Sugar
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I thought Tyrion had wildfire made?
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This is the person everyone thinks he is. If he could get Edmure to believe that, it makes it easier to convince him.
Makes sense I guess.
I don't know that he's lying. He didn't want to leave Cersei. He wants to be by her side forever. She still seems to be the top priority in his life.
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maybe but it worked out in his favour in this instance
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did he? i thought he just found the stash and used some of it. of course i have no idea why he would leave the rest down there, unless there were more than one stash.
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He did, but there are other hidden stashes that Tyrion didn't find.
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He bought up all of the pyromancers' stock and had them make as much as they possibly could, then used it all up in the Blackwater battle.
plus this
I'm pretty sure they forgot how to make it? Or can't make it any more?
Roy Dotrice made it. He does not deal in pig shit.
Moff
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absolutely
but it would still be weird if that was such a huge surprise/secret that needed investigation, that explosion was a huge bang after all
but I guess if they really knew about it they would have removed it from the red keep
But isn't it lame that his main priority still seems to be Cersei? In the books, he was burning her letter, refusing her, and was focused entirely on "How can I put this right without breaking my vows?"
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