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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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cj_iwakura
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HOTAH?! Dammit all. I mean, I like where this is going, but god did that piss me off.
Sho_Nuff82
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What can they realistically do? Even if they wanted to attack KL they would have to travel through the Reach (or around, and the Reach has an awesome fleet), which has all of the armies. At least with Aegon's invasion and Euron's reaving and Sam's dad being in KL in the books the Tyrell response would be tempered, but there's no plausible way that Dorne does anything of note in the show.
Good luck getting a sand snake in the Small Council after you murdered your royal family Ellaria.
higgsboson1997
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I personally didn't mind Dorne at all. I was uncomfortable with it at first because it was something completely unexpected, but really, from what the Sand Snakes had been like before, this felt like the next logical step. If they were acting rebellious, them proceeding down that path makes tons of sense to me. I like the uncertainty this develops. I think everyone was assuming that Doran would be a big Dornish player, so I guess a lot of people are shocked and mildly disappointed with the fact that Ellaria and Sand Snakes are going to be the prominent Dornish instead.
No complaints with the rest really.
No complaints with the rest really.
Freyjadour
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The sand snakes are really really shitty and they're doubling down on them for whatever reason at the expense of whatever interesting or moderately important characters Dorne had.
Whatever, Books 4/5 were fucking awful and we're well on our way to more awful ASOIAF.
cj_iwakura
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I liked his actor, he just wasn't given much(or anything) to work with.
Wall > North > King's Landing > Meereen > Dothraki > Arya > Dorne(?!).
The wall stuff was great.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this was it. It was originally planned for the season 4 bath scene, then bumped to season 5, and finally now.
cj_iwakura
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Boy is it funny watching people here bitch and seeing people hype in the no book thread.
DearestJuliet
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Im SO glad the Sand Snakes have a harder approach this season. These were the bad bitches we were supposed to get last season and they dulled them down.
Fucking awesome premiere. Valar morguhlis.
Fucking awesome premiere. Valar morguhlis.
reelbigtink
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I quite liked books 4 and 5 and consider them to be better than A Clash of Kings. The bad stuff on the show is largely not GRRM's fault. It's a strange misinterpretation of the source material.
At worst books 4 and 5 are considered boring. The show isn't just boring. It plunges into "outright bad" fairly often now.
Cabbagehead
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Is it bitching or pointing out shitty writing and plot movement in a weak episode. With disappearing hounds, teleporting sand snakes and a ass backwards story line in Dorne developing, plus a necklace glamour plot hole with the Red Priestess.
elrechazado
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There is a ton of the same in there.
Cesare Borgia
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Watch them magically get to Storm's End. Hell they might be at the gates of KL by episode 9. Laughable.
No, all that scene was there for was to show there is more to her than meets the eye.
Fuck the bad pussy and everything about Dorne. Actually, everything South of the Neck was pretty rough this week. Better than last season, but that's not saying much.
Margery scene would probably work better with more content around it.
cj_iwakura
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I enjoyed it, I think readers are too hungry for something to nitpick. The only WTF moment for me was Hotah and Doran's death, but I'm still intrigued.
higgsboson1997
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I feel like her encounter with Ramsay and LF's manipulations last season were her one final moment of struggle that truly taught her to trust no one and will cause her to come into her own. I'm sure we'll see more of that as the story progresses.
Haha man seriously, isnt there some unused book dialogue they could just recycle?
Sho_Nuff82
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Doran is written completely differently for one. He threw them in dungeons (miles away from each other) for the stunt they pulled in the book, and then keeps them separated after by giving them assignments all over the country. Here he forgives their treachery almost instantly and let's them continue plotting.
And as I posted above, Ellaria Sand taking control of Sunspear is a joke in the GoT universe as we know it. She's a bastard with no blood relation to the Martells (she wasn't even married to Oberyn) and a woman with zero combat experience. Why would anyone take her commands seriously? Especially after they find out she murdered the beloved crown prince of a thousand year old family? It would have made more sense to leave Arianne in the show of they were going to go this route, at least she has a legit claim to succession.
They've spent the better part of 3 seasons explaining to us why Ramsay can't just butcher and murder his way into being the Lord of the North (because the people are fiercely loyal), and then they throw that out the window for a couple of cheap deaths.
So wait, what was even the point of the Dorne plot line in season 5? Outside of the Sand Snakes there's literally nothing left. I couldn't help but laugh during that scene if only because it rendered the entire thing completely pointless. I guess they'll wage war on King's Landing now? And get fucking curb stomped immediately?
cj_iwakura
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They're revenge hungry. I'm sure Doran has loyalists who won't be happy, though I doubt they'll have a role with his son dead.
More likely they just want to focus Dorne into one easy to follow faction for purposes of conflict with the Lannisters.
Meh. To avenge their kin, they killed their own kin. A guy who can barely walk and a teen boy who didn't even know what was going on.
And just like that, House Martell is gone. lol. Oberyn is turning in his grave.
Gamer @ Heart
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The prologue of aDoD was about a warg wildling surviving his death by taking over a person/animals.
Jon's final thought, as he dies was of Ghost.
Dying gets Jon out of all his oaths.
It's so not a red herring that this is how he comes back.
H.Cornerstone
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Well this show has certainly gone full non-books.
The scene with Mel is very interesting...
The scene with Mel is very interesting...
Psychoward
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This is the show though. There's no saying that's how he comes back in the show.
Psychoward
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It's high time for a second Dorne gif. Enjoy.
at least the vfx are good?
fallengorn
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That's what I'm thinking. They just want to position Dorne to where they'll openly revolt against the Lannisters when the time comes. Fuck all to whatever else is going on down there in the books.
I didn't care for that part. On its own, it's not like Sansa doesn't have reason to be discombobulated, but the show has basically never allowed her to make any use of her mastery of court etiquette, so it's annoying that when it's finally brought up, she flubs it. She also needs Theon to assent before accepting Brienne's fealty, apparently.
Anyway, storyline ratings:
1. Castle Black (A-)
2. Dothraki Sea (A-)
3. Winterfell and environs (B+)
4. King's Landing (B)
5. Meereen (B-)
6. Braavos (C+)
7. Dorne (F-)
Psychoward
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How is positioning the sand snakes to be in an open revolt doing as little possible? If anything they gave more importance to the awful parts.
It's high time for a second Dorne gif. Enjoy.
I love how this is allowed on gaf. But a bit of nipple and your banned.
She walks and move normal in that scene, very different that tonight's episode
Imo, all this is nonsense probably they never touch the theme again in the show lol
This is like that pycelle's reveal in season 1
cj_iwakura
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Well for one this is fake as hell... secondly I doubt you'd want to be browsing this thread at work anyway.
I don't know what the stance is on gore gifs, though.Haha, Tyrion's expression is delightful.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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It's high time for a second Dorne gif. Enjoy.
Trystane kind of looks like a snowman with a carrot nose.
Outdoor Miner
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Trash writing continues from season 5. There is no hope.
Especially if Nym and Obara are in King's Landing, as seems to be implied. If they wanted to sideline this plot, they would have had the Sand Snakes thrown in prison and left them there for a season.
This is kind of where I'm at with Dorne. No "bad pussy" level dialogue? No Water Gardens level fight choreography? Well that's an A+ scene by Dorne standards.
It's high time for a second Dorne gif. Enjoy.
This gif is funnier to me every time it loops. The cut to Tyrion's reaction so perfectly encapsulates my reaction to that scene. It's killing me.
Lol why have Doran walk if you're hustling to stab him a minute later. I guess we want to remind people that he's infirm and a shit adventurer? Fine tho. He didn't have anything important to do (since Dorne doesn't have anything at all to do...). It's getting kind of conspicuous how many powers in this world are going Matriarchal tho, not sure what I think about that yet.
Davis stays charming and great, I just wish they'd put a wiggle on it up there. Standing sentinel for Jon is fine and good but let's just stop fucking around and bring him back.
I really like the Jaime-Cersei power couple thing. Even tho I like regretful introspective book Jaime a lot, the fire and the fury Jaime works for me, too.
Disappointed about no Tower of Joy but Bran was in the preview so maybe it's next week?
Really tho I just want Tyrion and Varys strolling around town all episode long from here until TWOW releases (so forever).
Yeah kind of weird as the ending tho. We already know Mel is some kinds of fucked up.
Davis stays charming and great, I just wish they'd put a wiggle on it up there. Standing sentinel for Jon is fine and good but let's just stop fucking around and bring him back.
I really like the Jaime-Cersei power couple thing. Even tho I like regretful introspective book Jaime a lot, the fire and the fury Jaime works for me, too.
Disappointed about no Tower of Joy but Bran was in the preview so maybe it's next week?
Really tho I just want Tyrion and Varys strolling around town all episode long from here until TWOW releases (so forever).
Yeah kind of weird as the ending tho. We already know Mel is some kinds of fucked up.
Sho_Nuff82
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I think even the show runners forgot the reason Dorne hates the Lannisters to begin with was because of the death of a Dornish princess. Whose brother and nephew they just slaughtered. They were the least interesting characters from that whole plotline (well, not counting Quentyn lol). Now elevated to...well I don't know exactly.
Doran revealing that his machinations had been going on for decades was a much bigger deal, and his plans for subtly taking apart the Lannisters were a lot more intriguing than Ellaria's frankly unrealistic "I'm from Sunspear and I say we kill them all!" bravado that has no military backing.
buttery fistful
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so who rules dorne now? does quentyn even exist in the hbo universe?
cj_iwakura
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Should've at least let Hotah gone down fighting. Seeing him kill one Sand Snake would've been nice, or at least maim.
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