Mockingbird
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Samwell's stories are still pre-book. I think he's still stuck in the beginning of A Dance with Dragons.
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Samwell's stories are still pre-book. I think he's still stuck in the beginning of A Dance with Dragons.
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Eh, I thought it was fine.
neurosisxeno
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I thought it was brought up around the time he sent Theon to the Iron Islands?
wesleyshark
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I thought it was great. The lingering shot and him coming back into frame was heartbreaking
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Shit, okay.
MiamiWesker
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Amazing episode! Finally getting some payoff.
Someone was asking if all book storylines have finally been taken care of, the only one left is old town and the crazy wizard shit with Jaqen. Which I assume is covered next season.
Someone was asking if all book storylines have finally been taken care of, the only one left is old town and the crazy wizard shit with Jaqen. Which I assume is covered next season.
hipsterpants
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So she'll go full psycho but then killing a single innocent woman is just crossing the line?
Admiral Woofington
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At least they didn't leave his characters fate on a cliffhanger
Salty Catfish
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So good.
Why? He vowed his life. He fought internally over that decision. He wanted to run away but Ned's honor-fu lessons were too strong. He gave his position his everything, step by step. He accepted his place. He gave his life. He was given a way out, and a second chance to undo something he obviously regrets in not helping the first time.
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Is there a mechanism within the show's rules by which Jon can be legitimized as the Stark heir? He has the support of the North, but does he have a claim that is "proper"?
I really don't think you're giving the series enough credit here. I know a couple people who can't stand fantasy stuff and they were completely engrossed after the first episode. Just because a show involves a lot of drama between characters doesn't automatically put it on the same level as a soap opera.
InfiniteBento
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I imagine something similar to how ramsay was legitimized perhaps?
Yep, I thought it was a great scene. No epic speech or melodramatic acting needed, it was as I would imagine someone who just watched his whole life taken from him would end it.
Damerman
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you know wat is supposed to happen if they end up together right?
neurosisxeno
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Well, the only people that traditionally can legitimize a bastard is a Lord, or a King. But, if he just takes everything, and all the Lords of the North recognize him as Jon Stark, I imagine that would be enough.
Hasphat'sAnts
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That's totally how I expected Tommen to go out.
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Roose obtains legitimization for Ramsay by petitioning to the crown (offscreen). I don't think Cersei is going to help in Jon's situation. But if Jon is king (in the North), can he legitimize himself?
wesleyshark
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I don't believe so. I think D&D purposely took that out to make his declaration more dramatic. There's more shock value of the houses who did not assist him retaking Winterfell to call him their king.
I don't think they'll be calling him Jon Stark. As Queen Lyanna said, it doesn't matter if he's a bastard, he has Ned's blood.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I suppose one of the lords who declared him king could legitimize him, but he's not going to get the support of Cersei.
Exquisite.
At the speed this show is going I'd say right to King's Landing. I'll be shocked if Cersei lives more than an episode or two after declaring war on so many houses.
Admiral Woofington
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R+L= J was a great scene, are show only people going crazy?
VenomousCoffee
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The shot of Tommen's jumping was the right way to film it, imo.
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They seem to have figured it out pretty quickly. But I don't know how much of that is due to reader moles.
Admiral Woofington
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House Mormont remembers
The north remembers
Pepperidge farm remembers!
The north remembers
Pepperidge farm remembers!
PHOENIXZERO
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I loved the Frey pie scene even if they bungled Arya's arc here and everyone is getting teleportation powers. It was silly they're hiding what's possibly going to end up being Rhaegar and Lyanna being married so Jon isn't actually a bastard (or his name, I'll have to go back and check) actually being legitimate, especially with playing up that he's a bastard I almost got teary eyed from it and that transition though. I wanted Margery to escape and was kind of bummed when she didn't but then Tommen casually killed himself and I forgot. They did a shitload of culling of characters and I kinda hope George really does follow suit since it should start to happen when certain POVs are no longer needed anyway. Cersei finally getting what she wanted, can't wait for the chaos of that which will follow.
Much better season than five over all.
To be fair, we're on a site of video game site filled playing RPG nerds who have seen this sort of thing many times, I figured it out in the first season, the pilot even and I did start reading the books until after season three started.
EDIT: Abandon thread version of that GIF. http://i.imgur.com/r21KTTj.gif
Much better season than five over all.
To be fair, we're on a site of video game site filled playing RPG nerds who have seen this sort of thing many times, I figured it out in the first season, the pilot even and I did start reading the books until after season three started.
EDIT: Abandon thread version of that GIF. http://i.imgur.com/r21KTTj.gif
wesleyshark
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Some yeah. Though, others are confused over if Jon and Dany are siblings or if Dany is his aunt haha.
Amazing.
InfiniteBento
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Horse Detective never read the books but speculated + loved that reveal. He was hype as fuck.
I read the books several years ago and have speculated for a long time so i flipped the fuck out during the reveal also.
Maintenance
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I'm dying here, this is amazing. The whole Tommen scene was a perfect "Abandon Thread" gif, couldn't even think about anything else but the gifs.
Gonna read this thread now for the reactions at the start of the episode.
Not really. With R + L = J confirmed anyway his claim is more to the Iron Throne than to Winterfell.
Next season is 100% going to address the power play at Winterfell, even if Sansa is ok with Jon being king for now.
SodiumBenzoate
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Only on NeoGAF will I find someone somehow complaining about the last 2 hours of this show as mysogynistic, when it was literally 95% as close to a female power fantasy as anyone could imagine.
What a great episode though
What a great episode though
That whole Kingslanding sequence leading into the wildfire was dope. Excellent music.
The Tommen suicide is silly in that gif, sure, but in the show with the long shot lingering on the window it worked. The teleportation stuff (Dornish fleet lol) is ridiculous sure but it's been ridiculous for ages now so it's easy to just shrug at.
Solid season finale.
The Tommen suicide is silly in that gif, sure, but in the show with the long shot lingering on the window it worked. The teleportation stuff (Dornish fleet lol) is ridiculous sure but it's been ridiculous for ages now so it's easy to just shrug at.
Solid season finale.
petethepanda
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It's perfect. It's perfect.
It's funny, the thing I was most excited about this season was finally moving on from the books, then GAF goes and predicts the finale beat for beat. It was still good. I gotta say, for long stretches all this show had was a unique setting(to tv) and the intrigue of moving pieces around the board. Now the cinematography and craftsmanship of the whole show has really stepped up. I wouldn't say I'm in love with it, or it's my favorite, but it's very VERY impressive. They had a proper sword fight early and these last 2 episodes were exceptional. The bastard battle looked better than most big budget Hollywood movies too.
I thought Sansa would take over Wintefell, Jon would move on to assemble an army to prepare for the white walkers and/or go to Bran, but they resurrected the King of the North instead. They can both still do that, but that moniker implies greater ambition. What else? People are teleporting again, but I'll take that over Varys rejoining the team and Arya making her way back in a more protracted way. I'm surprised they didn't bring Brienne back to Winterfell, but it's not so important. Maybe it means she'll actually uncover something along the way(The Hound!).
Perhaps the most definitive thing to take away is house Lannister is really in a death spiral now. The beginning of the end was Tyrion killing papa and he'll probably bring it back at the end, but this episode really gutted King's Landing.
Finally, anyone else think Oldtown is way too huge/grand? They've been entirely quiet until now, still are politically, are we to assume they've just been there all along and no one has as much as thought of them? If it was Maester academy and a village that would be fine, but that place is like a Westeros metropolis.
I thought Sansa would take over Wintefell, Jon would move on to assemble an army to prepare for the white walkers and/or go to Bran, but they resurrected the King of the North instead. They can both still do that, but that moniker implies greater ambition. What else? People are teleporting again, but I'll take that over Varys rejoining the team and Arya making her way back in a more protracted way. I'm surprised they didn't bring Brienne back to Winterfell, but it's not so important. Maybe it means she'll actually uncover something along the way(The Hound!).
Perhaps the most definitive thing to take away is house Lannister is really in a death spiral now. The beginning of the end was Tyrion killing papa and he'll probably bring it back at the end, but this episode really gutted King's Landing.
Finally, anyone else think Oldtown is way too huge/grand? They've been entirely quiet until now, still are politically, are we to assume they've just been there all along and no one has as much as thought of them? If it was Maester academy and a village that would be fine, but that place is like a Westeros metropolis.
Ive never seen the internet so on point before
This is incredible XD
Have to admit, I did like this episode a lot more than most of the episodes this season.
To be fair:
I knew it right after first season myself. Anyone who ever believed in Ned would know he would never betray Cat like that.
SodiumBenzoate
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Admiral Woofington
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Wasn't there a gafer here who literally said the ending scene word by word?
Like dani sailing with a shot of her fleet then dragons zooming by and then credits? Lmao
Also the real question here is are the dragons going to fly the whole way there?
Like dani sailing with a shot of her fleet then dragons zooming by and then credits? Lmao
Also the real question here is are the dragons going to fly the whole way there?
To be fair that's a pretty safe bet for an ending scene.
Some people in the other thread are outright discussing the Valonqar prophecy that didn't make it into the show and speculating based on it.
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