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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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In the books he makes show Ramsay look like a peach.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Also while I'm still not sold on the idea of Robert Strong in the show or the books, I can appreciate that he is basically fantasy Jason Voorhees.
The Hermit
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Is that Tyrion scene with the Dragons foreshadowing something?
I have a friend who said he thinks each Dragon will be ridden by Snow, Daenerys and Tyrion... I can see that happening.
I have a friend who said he thinks each Dragon will be ridden by Snow, Daenerys and Tyrion... I can see that happening.
gigantor21
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I expected to hear the "Ch-ch-ch ha-ha-ha" sound before he killed that peasant, LOL.
Ocarina_117
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Ramsey is a very uncompelling villain. Clearly written to follow from Joffery as the bastard we're meant to hate, it just doesn't work.
I really wish they'd shifted direction and made Roose a more prominent antagonist. As viewers/readers we have cause to dislike the character; natural enemy of the starks, red wedding involvement etc. Ramsey started off interesting enough but quickly devolved into a cheap, poorly written villain.
It would have been interesting to further play on the father-son dynamic between Ramsey and Roose, give the pair actual development. It's all been very disappointing so far,
Despite the goings on at the wall and north of the wall being fantastic; the surrounding stories have fallen flat. It's expected I guess, the show is quite restricted in the current format but I just don't feel as enthralled in the series as I was during the first 4 seasons.
Rant aside - this is by far the best episode since season 4 (excluding Hardhome which is god-tier television). My complaints may make it sound like I dislike the series, but my small disappointments are just amplified due to my high expectations I feel.
I really wish they'd shifted direction and made Roose a more prominent antagonist. As viewers/readers we have cause to dislike the character; natural enemy of the starks, red wedding involvement etc. Ramsey started off interesting enough but quickly devolved into a cheap, poorly written villain.
It would have been interesting to further play on the father-son dynamic between Ramsey and Roose, give the pair actual development. It's all been very disappointing so far,
Despite the goings on at the wall and north of the wall being fantastic; the surrounding stories have fallen flat. It's expected I guess, the show is quite restricted in the current format but I just don't feel as enthralled in the series as I was during the first 4 seasons.
Rant aside - this is by far the best episode since season 4 (excluding Hardhome which is god-tier television). My complaints may make it sound like I dislike the series, but my small disappointments are just amplified due to my high expectations I feel.
Sho_Nuff82
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Cersei is going to send him to kill the faith. Under the pretense of saving Margaery.
Jon's revival was a cute callback to Bran's awakening.
I'm almost certain the Great Northern Conspiracy, or a very clumsy version thereof, is going to happen this season. The Karstarks et al are going to overthrow Ramsay and probably instill Sansa as queen. Ramsay is playing the Game of Thrones now, and he just doesn't have the cunning to stay on top.
What do we think is going to happen on the Wall? Is Jon just going to stay up there, with a newly integrated Night's Watch, until the inevitable onslaught of the Others comes?
I'm almost certain the Great Northern Conspiracy, or a very clumsy version thereof, is going to happen this season. The Karstarks et al are going to overthrow Ramsay and probably instill Sansa as queen. Ramsay is playing the Game of Thrones now, and he just doesn't have the cunning to stay on top.
What do we think is going to happen on the Wall? Is Jon just going to stay up there, with a newly integrated Night's Watch, until the inevitable onslaught of the Others comes?
MagicWithEarvin
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O_O
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
That's been a pretty popular theory for awhile. I kind of hope that's not the case, or at least hopefully Tyrion isn't a Targaryen which would just ruin the story between him and Tywin.
DrForester
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It really needs to be the best fight scene the show has ever done in order to live up to reputation.
Peter Ian Staker
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Greek Easter weekend is officially over.
He has risen.
He has risen.
That would be yet another terrible change from book to show.
I'm hoping he's bringing Frey pies.
Would be a shame not to get Manderly, but I've made my peace with that getting cut.
MiamiWesker
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Wow what an episode. So much better than the last one. Looks like next week is the big one. Can't wait to finally have an answer.
gigantor21
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I fully expect him to go down south and fuck some shit up with the Wildlings riding beside him. He's not part of Watch anymore, and there are still plenty of people around who hurt and betrayed his family.
D&D don't look to be holding anything back this season.
No, it doesn't mean Missandei could have done it, but the show located it in that range, and there hasn't been the slightest suggestion on the show that you need to be of Targaryen/Valyrian extraction to tame a dragon (which is a subject of debate in the books).
Vault Dweller 111
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That was fantastic. Previews got me hyped.
DrForester
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I'm sure wanting to make book readers think of Quentyn was intentional. Sure I'm not the only person who thought he might get toasted.
I don't buy the Dwarf Targaryen theory. I do like the idea that the Dragons know their friends. Tie in with the book and you can also say that they know who is worthy.
Inside the episode spoilers (?):
One of the Ds says that Ghost just senses when Jon is coming back or something. He could be lying, but if they were going to do the whole warg thing, why would they cut out Jon's last word? It would have worked far better with that.
David Incorporated Esq.
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It looks like we're going to get a guy with two swords spinning around. I don't have high hopes unfortunately.
Sho_Nuff82
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How would the Karstarks get Sansa?
I think they'll stumble blindly into an alliance with Ramsay, just like in the novel, and pay for it dearly when the Umbers and Manderly's betray them in favor of Jon & Sansa announcing their presence at Castle Black.
Euron is basically a historically accurate Jack Sparrow. He's a charming rogue who loves to party, but is also a serial rapist who's murdered hundreds of people and enjoys watching others suffer. After killing a Reachman lord and making a "salt wife" out of his bastard daughter, he forces the lord's widow and legitimate daughters to strip naked and serve wine to his men.
You might be right. I'm only expecting the Karstarks to betray Ramsay because they're the only lesser house we saw this episode. But they have a very legitimate beef with the whole Stark family, so they might stay on Ramsay's side.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, that is something I'm more than fine with.
Yes, I did read the books. When the show gave a fleet to Dany it was pretty obvious that they were done with the Ironborn arc, that's why is weird that they suddenly decide to burn the fleet and bring this arc back, is like they changed their mind during last season (probably they need something to make the show longer because is so succesful).
Sho_Nuff82
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So do we know of any casting confirmations or rumors for adult Lyanna, Brandon, or Rhaegar?
Oh jeez. You might be right.
"Fuck you. I don't need you telling me I'm the coolest king. I'll take the cool for myself."
Shireen Already Burned. Enough is enough.
Peter Ian Staker
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They propably saw how Dorne turned out and they decided to rush what was left of Dorne and bring back the Ironborn.
I never understood why they bothered with Dorne to be honest. The Ironborn were more well established and are supposed to have a bigger impact on the story than Dorne(after Young Grif was cut anyway).
I think for Brandon they may use the cut footage from the pilot.
I guess they really wanted to capitalize on Oberon's popularity, but none of the other characters ever stuck like they were hoping for.
A Human Becoming
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I don't understand that either, but between the Great Jon not showing up in the show after he was mad Robb made a deal with the Freys and the book having some Umbers begrudgingly supporting the Boltons, they seem to be aligned with the Boltons in the show.
Dawn 1 and Dawn 2
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They seem to have ignored every visual description of Euron from the books, not a big fan.
I like how Balon gives no shits about losing every last man he sent to the north.
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