John Dunbar
correct about everything
if they are a character in the story, someone has thought they are jaqen. also a targaryen, possibly rhaegar.
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if they are a character in the story, someone has thought they are jaqen. also a targaryen, possibly rhaegar.
I just hope we don't get Bronn dragging Jamie out of the water in some secluded cove a half mile down and they get away and get back into King's Landing.
Which is probably what we're gonna get, given that I can't imagine (preview)
O shit
Euron is Moonboy
Everything makes sense now
Which is probably what we're gonna get, given that I can't imagine (preview)
them holding off on a Jamie/Dany face-to-face tease
O shit
Euron is Moonboy
Everything makes sense now
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I assume it's mainly an excuse to get Jaime out of King's landing so Euron can settle in properly.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
It's developed into his fetish.
The Artisan
Member
Well, seems to me that it's weird to you because your preferences are different.
Intercourse =/= nudity. Just because they show the characters having sex doesn't mean they have to show both of the actors' entire bodies on screen. I say the same for the GW x Missandei scene in episode 2 and GW is my favorite character.
What about Tyrion? How would he react?
I thought we weren't allowed to talk about the leaks at all.
No offense taken but why are incest and nudity in the same category? Two completely different things.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Tyrion has no designs on Dany, I think he would say "that is interesting" if Jon and Dany hooked up, but little else. I mean, Jon is by far the best marriage candidate that is still around given that he's a good guy almost everyone else isn't.
Interestingly enough, there's no word in High Valyrian for "gullible."
Latvian Hitman
Member
That pervert? He'd probably react by jerking it.
He's slept with half the whores in Westeros. No reason for him to get too jelly.
Ros8105
Member
Depends how much they've been paying attention.
It's been hinted, Arthur Dayne protecting the tower, Rhaegar "kidnapping" Neds sister.
But since we haven't seen the tourney at Harrenhall and so on it's hard to know.
btw how common knowledge is it for show only people that Rhaegar is Jon's father?
They don't know from the show itself, but by every book reader telling them.
After season 6 its essentially confirmed. (I haven't read the books, I'm just here because I find the differences/lost plot points interesting)
The tower scene and the the cut from the baby to Jon. I think D&D said somewhere they assume most people don't know tho so idk.
The only people that may not know are those that didn't pay attention to who those characters are and who didn't read a lick of any third party GoT episode reviews/write ups. Because it was EVERYWHERE on the internet at that point
Lord of Castamere
Member
Meh, assuming ravens were sent out, which isn't guaranteed, as I'm sure the power gap led to lots of murder, rape, and pillaging, I doubt they'd care. Eventually that might come into play, but the twins aren't really important to any faction right now. Bigger fishes and all that.
In the book, I'm sure Stoned Cat will give the Twins to Riverrun.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not really, I thought they were both great in their own way. The parentage reveal right before made the subsequent KITN scene very emotional.
not sure but my buddy thinks jon is daenerys' half brother
StopMakingSense
Member
For show only people it's really just "unseen Targaryian"
With maybe a tiny bit of vague sense of the context re: Robert's rebellion
I imagine some might assume he was the Mad king.
With maybe a tiny bit of vague sense of the context re: Robert's rebellion
I imagine some might assume he was the Mad king.
I'm shocked we haven't had one Bran Vision four episodes in. I need them flashbacks!
Rhaegar flashback with Jon in a white wig
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Anyone paying a lick of attention knows, but there are people who haven't been paying any attention who probably don't.
Hey, remember when we thought Selmy was saved at the end of the fight only for him to show up dead at the start of the next episode? Good times.
This thread filled with a not insignificant amount of up there own ass book readers, had at least 1/3 of them not understand that the gold made it to KL and the army attacked was the rear guard. Despite Tarly EXPLICITLY SAYING SO IN EPISODE
Never ever underestimate people's ability to not pay attention.
That's not fair. Rhaegar hasn't really been mentioned since, what, season 5? When Selmy was talking about him? And they never made an explicit connection to Jon like they did with Lyanna. It's totally plausible for someone who watches but doesn't read theories to not know Jon's dad.
Friend of mine pieced together that they were related but still thought Lyanna was raped. Didn't get the subtext from the books that she deliberately ran away with him.
I was honestly pretty surprised as many show only people I know have pieced it together
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, I felt like they made it obvious it was the Prince (who is a Targaryen) and that the mom was Lyanna. At least as obvious as they could make it without requiring Max Von Sydow to go full Exposition Mode.
I mean, I don't know many show only people who bought that Rhaegar ran off with Lyanna against her will to begin with, but it's always been a minor plot point.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Let's not
I'm hoping we see Dany own up to the attack being one out of rage and frustration. There was no other point to it as it seemed to be the tail end of the lannister forces and she destroyed the majority of the loot train!
Lady stone heart talk a few pages back, huh. I'd like to propose that Stannis is alive and well, in hiding waiting to take on the night king one on one.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I watched episode 2 again yesterday and it sure does feel like Varys' explanation for his randomly shifting loyalties was pretty dumb. If Varys just wanted non-horrible assholes on the throne and to protect the smallfolk he could have just maneuvered to get Aerys killed without a gigantic fucking war being necessary and then just gotten Rhaegar on the Iron Throne. Sure, Robert would still be pissed about Lyanna, but I highly doubt the lords of Westeros would rally to his cause when his entire cause was based around "the prince swooped my girl."
Show Varys is pointless, you need Aegon for Varys to mean anything.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
i'm still convinced rhaeger was a (not so) secret asshole and completely insane, but yes, varys is pointless in the show.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Yup. Also losing the children scene really neutered (haha) his character.
I want Jaimie to be Azor Azhai in the show. To stab Cersei in the back, through the heart and to pull out a flaming sword. Also Cersei should wail to add some poetry, widows wail and all that.
Show people have really come around to Jaimie lately. Hope we have less scenes of Jaimie being roasted and some actual character growth. THIS WILL be the season he leaves Cersei.
I want Jaimie to be Azor Azhai in the show. To stab Cersei in the back, through the heart and to pull out a flaming sword. Also Cersei should wail to add some poetry, widows wail and all that.
Show people have really come around to Jaimie lately. Hope we have less scenes of Jaimie being roasted and some actual character growth. THIS WILL be the season he leaves Cersei.
Ocarina_117
Banned
I believe killing Ned's brother and father is what mainly signalled the start of the war. Lyanna running off made them go south.
If the show flashes back to Lyanna again i hope for a confirmation that Benjen helped her flee with Rhaegar.
The Artisan
Member
I said this in the other thread: I think Tyrion is falling for Dany. The look of concern on his face when she was up in the sky seemed like one of love.
But isn't he lonely now
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Tyrion doesn't really have an arc anymore, there's a reason most of Season 6 he was making jokes. Maybe he will develop one if they capture Jamie.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
The Lannisters really are a skid mark on the show as a whole, aren't they
The Artisan
Member
yeah they nerfed his character and I dunno why, you know. They're just making him unnecessary cocky. When Dany asks him what he thinks of the winter war he goes "a wise man once said you should never believe something simply because you want to believe it..." and Dany obviously called him out on his bullshit this time
but no Tyrion you jackass just say something like "I knew Jeor Mormont - Jorah's father. He saw these things, and I didn't want to believe him either. And now Jon is saying it too, and I trust the eyes of an honest man etc.." you know basically the same thing he said to Jon that would've made for way better dialogue rather than him doing one of his jackass lines like "I drink and I know things and the best convos are in elegant rooms" Dany obviously respected Jorah and now Tyrion is talking about his father shouldn't that mean something to her?
It's almost as if he left on a journey to meet Daenerys and no one wrote anything for him to do.
The Artisan
Member
is that where he left off in the book?
No, but D&D ignored pretty much all of what he does in the books after he escaped KL.
Yea, in the custody of Mormont unless I am misremembering. Man, just thinking about the books, if Winds ever comes out I am going to have to read cliff notes first just to remember everything I've forgotten.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Isn't he like a pet or something to this big fat whale of a guy and he's trying to get with some sellsword company?
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
in the books he became a darker Tyrion (something the show Whitewashed), found another Targaryen and said he should go attacked Westeros, gets captured by Jorah, sold into slavery, meets another Dwarf, learns to care for her and signs himself into a mercenary group called the Second Sons (briefly mentioned in the show as under the command of Darrio).
You can re-read the books!
I think he just used the mechanism to kill the Dothraki, not an actual arrow.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Rereading the books is gonna be my deployment goal
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Read AffC and ADWD as one book.
I don't think so, the guy was literally nailed against a wagon, which also should have been ripped apart, the thing was burning.
Man them some long-ass books, I'm not reading them again.
I read Storm and Dragons twice. Dos. Never again.