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[Freeza Under The Shower]

I get that the Arya narrative isn't hitting it's mark, but I feel that her beefing with Sansa is misdirection. I think she is pushing Sansa to use a Face against LF. The handing off of the dagger from Arya to Sansa was basically consent to use her stuff.

Yes. Sansa is heavily thinking (eye movement) while LF is talking about Brienne, and then she 'seemingly without any reason' send her off, it seems obvious that she meant to avoid Brienne from being used by LF.
Also with that dagger changing hands from one Stark to another, it has to land in something in the season finale next week. Considering LF's role is basically played out by this point, I'd say it's going to be him. I mean, who's going to care about him when the Wall itself is probably coming down next week too, or an ice-breathing dragon means the NK and co. can just walk around it?

I feel like 'waiting for a dragon' was the point of the WW waiting around the lake though. They've been marching for seven seasons now, but there was never any way they could go around the Wall (or through it). I'd say now they do.
"but how does he know", well, because he's tied into the weirwood too (they have shown this a few times now), so he probably knows pretty much all the same stuff Bran does.

That said, the pacing and connecting the dots of this episode was not great... but I also enjoyed it for what it is. You can complain about mediocre writers not being GRRM, but when GRRM hasn't written a damn thing about these events yet, there's no magical 'could woulda shoulda' bar to measure up to. This is what the story is now.
I do still thoroughly enjoy the performance of King Friendzone (mormont) and that he was the only person to grasp that a dragon being killed meant for Dany.

And yes, they finally dealt with the stupid fucking sword that you guys were all complaining about last week. Happy now?

 

[jfkgoblue]

https://www.thereportertimes.com/entertainment/game-thrones-season-7-ice-dragon/

Fan made

This is the official

 

[BreezyLimbo]

That's a fan poster. Why are you reading bad sites.

when a fan poster has a cooler pose of a dragon and the night king

you got to ask questions

 

[Gunslinger]

Could it be when LF was talking to Sansa about Brienne it was Actually Arya disguised as her? She tells Sansa that she can look like her.

 

[Cesare Borgia]

I'm starting to feel like "kidnap and wight and bring it to King's Landing" is a plot point GRRM gave D&D but because of the changes they made in the past two seasons, they were far off from what GRRM might have planned for it in the books and tried to forcibly integrate it into the show in any way they could just to get a key plot point in there.

If TWOW ever releases it would probably make much more sense. Maybe Aegon takes the Throne and Jon (still up north and not king in the north) thinks he can convince this new king of the threat now that the War of the 5 Kings is over and the Lannisters are gone. His plot from this episode alone is probably his entire TWOW plot condensed.

I'll eat my bourbon bottle if that appears in the book. The constraints of the POV structure, plus Martin's writing style and general logic would make it impossible for Jon to be resurrected, go to King's Landing (or Dragonstone), return to the north, go beyond the Wall, capture a wight, bring it south etc.

 

[StopMakingSense]

https://www.thereportertimes.com/entertainment/game-thrones-season-7-ice-dragon/

The plot point had been out for quite a while before this fan made poster came out.

Could it be when LF was talking to Sansa about Brienne it was Actually Arya disguised as her? She tells Sansa that she can look like her.

She'd have to kill her, though.

 

[fanboi]

Could it be when LF was talking to Sansa about Brienne it was Actually Arya disguised as her? She tells Sansa that she can look like her.

Don't they need to be dead for her to use their face?

 

[Biske]

I'll eat my bourbon bottle if that appears in the book. The constraints of the POV structure, plus Martin's writing style and general logic would make it impossible for Jon to be resurrected, go to King's Landing (or Dragonstone), return to the north, go beyond the Wall, capture a wight, bring it south etc.

Hopefully its a fun weekend at bernies style adventure bringing it back.

Jon and Zombie buddy sitcom.

That idea is free HBO.

 

[Gunslinger]

I'll eat my bourbon bottle if that appears in the book. The constraints of the POV structure, plus Martin's writing style and general logic would make it impossible for Jon to be resurrected, go to King's Landing (or Dragonstone), return to the north, go beyond the Wall, capture a wight, bring it south etc.

Without Jon getting rezd the whole R+L=J wont work. And its the main arc of this story i can almost guarantee. Even in the books.

 

[TTG]

Next week on Game of Thrones!

Jon: This is the TRUE enemy! *snaps cover off cage in a flourish*

Qyburn: You went beyond the wall and lost a dragon for this shit? I got 5 of them down in the dungeon right now, I wonna see if I can teach them to play poker with me at night.

Cersei: Hey Dany, Dany! I got the Dorne bitches down below still, what do you say we let this one be their cellmate and like just see what happens?

Jon: So you don't want to team up?

 

[Media]

Haven't read any responses but I fucking dreamed about this.

Before the season started.
Sindragosa. Noooooooooo

 

[Bounceounce]

Best part of the season by far has been "The Field of Fire" 2.0 and specifically Jaime charging the dragon, only the decent arc has been Theon's.

 

[Burt]

There's a zero percent chance "Capture a wight and bring it to Cersei" is a plot point in the books.

A hard zero.

A super hard hard as it gets zero.

 

[Hazmat]

I went back and checked, and when Tormund is being dragged to the hole in the ice, one of the wights that surfaces to drag him under is a skeleton. How does a skeleton swim? I know the canon answer is magic, and the joke answer is about Jon, Jamie, and Bronns aquatic abilities, but how the fuck does a skeleton swim?

And Jon at some point in the fight where they're surrounded on an island the size of my living room Jon calls out "Fall back!" The King in the North!

 

[Biske]

Whats most mind boggling, is they could attempt to hand wave away some of this shit


One scene on the ice rock, one line "its been X days, why are they still standing there??"


And bam you get a sense of time, blah blah.

 

[fanboi]

Next week on Game of Thrones!

Jon: This is the TRUE enemy! *snaps cover off cage in a flourish*

Qyburn: You went beyond the wall and lost a dragon for this shit? I got 5 of them down in the dungeon right now, I wonna see if I can teach them to play poker with me at night.

Cersei: Hey Dany, Dany! I got the Dorne bitches down below still, what do you say we let this one be their cellmate and like just see what happens?

Jon: So you don't want to team up?

Reminds me that I needed to post this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9RnDmt7GCPE

 

[StopMakingSense]

There was also a lot of 'killing whites by just stabbing/slashing them like regular dudes' that didn't make all that much sense.

(Valeryian steel doesn't instakill Whites, does it?)

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Next week on Game of Thrones!

Jon: This is the TRUE enemy! *snaps cover off cage in a flourish*

Qyburn: You went beyond the wall and lost a dragon for this shit? I got 5 of them down in the dungeon right now, I wonna see if I can teach them to play poker with me at night.

Cersei: Hey Dany, Dany! I got the Dorne bitches down below still, what do you say we let this one be their cellmate and like just see what happens?

Jon: So you don't want to team up?

Yep, this whole thing is moronic, Cersei being like the Bolton's was a great analogy and they just brushed that aside when it was mentioned.

 

[Sayad]

Without Jon getting rezd the whole R+L=J wont work. And its the main arc of this story i can almost guarantee. Even in the books.

He's not saying it's impossible for Jon to be resurrected, he's saying the teleportation Jon did this season will probably not be in the book.

 

[Will the Thrill]

There's a zero percent chance "Capture a wight and bring it to Cersei" is a plot point in the books.

A hard zero.

A super hard hard as it gets zero.

To Cersei probably, but if it did happen I wonder if instead of going specifically after one in a suicide mission like here, they just end up with one and decide to bring it to show other people.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Whats most mind boggling, is they could attempt to hand wave away some of this shit


One scene on the ice rock, one line "its been X days, why are they still standing there??"


And bam you get a sense of time, blah blah.

but they've never done that in the show

never

ever

we can assume it was probably a day and a half or so since the lake was frozen completely

so

you know

 

[StopMakingSense]

For all the compaints, one thing I could just watch over and over: Drogon landing and clearing the field. Looks so fucking BOSS.

 

[Hazmat]

There was also a lot of 'killing whites by just stabbing/slashing them like regular dudes' that didn't make all that much sense.

(Valeryian steel doesn't instakill Whites, does it?)

They've always been fairly killable, though the ones here and in Hardhome go down easier than the two Jon fought in Mormont's chambers in season 1 (one shrugged off several heart stabs). And Valyrian steel has never been shown to be more effective.

One good spot in this episode is that they seemed to take time to dragonglass up. Jorah had a dagger and I can't tell, but I think Tormund had a kind of ghetto axe.

 

[Apt101]

As soon as Dany set out with all three dragons, I knew what was going to happen. Not the specifics of how a dragon would die, but that it would, and be turned.

 

[chicken_pasta]

I usually don't care about the time traveling parts of the show, because I get how they need to tell a story and can't spend time on the traveling aspect, but this episode was disgusting.

The arrowhead mountain was clearly not near any forest, so it can't be anywhere near Eastwatch, as Eastwatch basically touches the Haunted Forest. Also, there are no lakes North of the Wall that are within "running distance". The lads take some time to get to the lake, and then Gendry just runs back to the wall and manages to send a raven to Dany, who then flies over to god-knows-where and this all happened while the lads were asleep? Come the fuck on.

 

[Biske]

but they've never done that in the show

never

ever

we can assume it was probably a day and a half or so since the lake was frozen completely

so

you know

I know this. I Just don't get it. It's so easy, its the easy lazy way out of rushing a show. But they don't even care to do that.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I know this. I Just don't get it. It's so easy, its the easy lazy way out of rushing a show. But they don't even care to do that.

and? I imagine the audience is smart enough to realize that they would've been there for a while seeing as the lake completely froze again. That doesn't happen in a couple hours.

 

[Sony]

How the fuck does one kill a white dragon? Does dragon glass even work?

 

[carlsojo]

There's a zero percent chance "Capture a wight and bring it to Cersei" is a plot point in the books.

A hard zero.

A super hard hard as it gets zero.

Lmao there is a hundred percent chance it's in the books. It's so dumb.

How the fuck does one kill a white dragon? Does dragon glass even work?

Probably with those scorpions Cersei has been building.

 

[fanboi]

How the fuck does one kill a white dragon? Does dragon glass even work?

Another dragon? Melissandre?

 

[Fuzzy]

You know what I did to wash away the crap that is GoT? I watched the season premiere of Survivor's Remorse.

 

[studyguy]

That boy can run I tell you what.

 

[dubq]

wights, not "whites"

 

[Biske]

and? I imagine the audience is smart enough to realize that they would've been there for a while seeing as the lake completely froze again. That doesn't happen in a couple hours.

It at least helps make up for a lazy rushed show. At least to say "we know this is all absurd, but here"

Otherwise yeah everyone gets they are tired of this show and want to wrap shit up. But at least pretend to give a shit.

 

[Media]

wights, not "whites"

The wights are the sword shattering dudes that raise people, the white walkers are general dead guys, the Night King is the main guy

 

[broncobuster]

They show wights crumble when you kill the host other/ww. Killing the Night King kills the wight dragon.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Anyone feeling like Jon is going to get Rhaegal as his dragon soon?

I'm feeling like the naming of the dragons are very deliberate.

Viserion (why the hell would she name a beloved dragon after her dumb ass brother anyway?) get turned cause he's rash and not careful just like Viserys.

Drogon is tied to Dany because Drogo

Rhaegal is tied to Jon because Rhaegar is his father.

 

[Edzi]

Yeah, this episode was trash. I've always been hard on the show, but this was definitely a new level of bad.

Also, still loling at Blue Eyes Wight Dragon.

The wights are the sword shattering dudes that raise people, the white walkers are general dead guys, the Night King is the main guy

Nah, it's the other way around.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

With the way the writing has dropped I hope the next episode is a Christmas episode.


It's winter in winterfell

And all throughout the castle

Not a creature was stirring

Besides Dany and Jon getting it on

 

[Fuzzy]

The wights are the sword shattering dudes that raise people, the white walkers are general dead guys, the Night King is the main guy

How are you in this thread and you get everything completely wrong?

 

[NolbertoS]

They show wights crumble when you kill the host other/ww. Killing the Night King kills the wight dragon.

Killkng thr Night King kills pretty much all wights, whitewalkers and anybody else undead

 

[Hazmat]

It at least helps make up for a lazy rushed show. At least to say "we know this is all absurd, but here"

Otherwise yeah everyone gets they are tired of this show and want to wrap shit up. But at least pretend to give a shit.

Unless they have the Hound say "I can't believe I've been starving on this rock with you cunts for six days" to fully clear the time they're just calling attention to a plot hole by mentioning it.

Gendry ran 0.9 miles back to the wall and texted Dany on Edd's old Motorola flip phone (Edd wouldn't have a cool phone) and she flew the 40 miles from Dragonstone to the Wall, plus the aforementioned 0.9, and voila.

 

[Donthizz#]

GOT/Danny logic? o hey there's Night King just standing over there, I have three Dragons, maybe I should kill him? nah....lets just kill these wights and save these people so we can take the captured wight all the way back to Kings landing to convince Cersei white walkers are real?.....

" scratches head "

 

[SaintGalgo]

I got "spoiled" by googled Viserion's name a while ago and a bunch of stupid, oddly specific articles whose titles were variants of "THEORY: WILL VISERION BECOME AN ICE DRAGON IN GAME OF THRONES??? PLS CLICK" popped up, which I assume were publications trying to cash in on the leaks. Oh well, wouldn't have surprised me too much either way.

And... yeah, I still find the show entertaining enough but I don't think it's even nitpicking anymore. The writers don't give a fuck, it's hilarious.

 

[orochi91]

Night King getting his own Dragon is a bit much, to be honest.

This dude seriously too OP now.

:/

Anyone feeling like Jon is going to get Rhaegal as his dragon soon?

I'm feeling like the naming of the dragons are very deliberate.

Yea, that would be rather poetic

I hope it happens.

 

[carlsojo]

"I can't believe how dumb Jon is this season." Unlike the last season where he in a brilliant strategic maneuver charges alone towards the Bolton army.

Jon is dumb. Jon is a dumb character. He is not smart. He has never been smart.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

GOT/Danny logic? o hey there's Night King just standing over there, I have three Dragons, maybe I should kill him? nah....lets just kill these wights and save these people so we can take the captured wight all the way back to Kings landing to convince Cersei white walkers are real?.....

" scratches head "

Or we could just kill one of the bad dudes (maybe whatever is left of Ramsay) and leave him in the snow and wait until he revives and then just take that dude to KL and never even go hunting.

 

[Fuzzy]

"I can't believe how dumb Jon is this season." Unlike the last season where he in a brilliant strategic maneuver charges alone towards the Bolton army.

Jon is dumb. Jon is a dumb character. He is not smart. He has never been smart.

I blame it on him being raised by the moron Ned Stark.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

It at least helps make up for a lazy rushed show. At least to say "we know this is all absurd, but here"

Otherwise yeah everyone gets they are tired of this show and want to wrap shit up. But at least pretend to give a shit.

"Rushed"

>Next season isn't coming out for atleast a year and a half

I don't think you know the definition of rushed...

...also it's been 7 seasons. The only adaptation that is true to the material, that managed to pump out 90 episodes, was the Chinese production of Three Kingdoms, and they managed to pump out those 90 episodes in literally 3 months. No really. They started preproduction about 2005ish, and then released the episodes between May and June of 2010. Except they released the episodes daily over there.

The biggest issue with GoT is that they should've shotgunned the material and adapted it faster instead of having the customary 'year-long breaks' between each season.

But really, I wouldn't call it rushed. The only other option is having another 5 seasons where some of the actors will get too old or the show will become too bloated.

Otherwise, they don't need to have little time stamps of time progression to appease some people who need help understanding that things don't happen within the hour. This isn't 24.

 

[Media]

Yeah, this episode was trash. I've always been hard on the show, but this was definitely a new level of bad.

Also, still loling at Blue Eyes Wight Dragon.



Nah, it's the other way around.

How are you in this thread and you get everything completely wrong?

I'm sorry I forget the terms they use in the show cause I'm still calling the general dead Others 😭