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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO

duckroll

Member
Huh, what are those comments then? It'd be great if he could come back for the final season.

At any rate, looking at making of footage I'd think doing a couple of these blockbuster/mega eps is pretty draining. That's why I'm not surprised D&D want to wrap things up asap.

On the other hand, what I expected but never happened, is that they stepped down as main writers and maybe had an overall showrunner role without penning as many scripts... They're still even the main writers after all this time, I expected that after 3 or 4 seasons they would've given away way more eps to guest writers or staff.

Comments like this: https://youtu.be/PtfFOHKbYmY?t=746
"I would very much hope so, yes."

And this: http://www.etonline.com/features/19..._emmy_nominee_talks_kit_harrington_worst_fear
When asked about Game of Thrones' final episodes, he offers: "I'd love to be involved, but we'll just have to wait and see..."

Plus this: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/arts/television/game-of-thrones-miguel-sapochnik-emmy-awards.html
”I'm getting a little breather, but hopefully I'll be back," he said.

Aka: Tales from dabig2's ass.
 

Tacitus_

Member
Jon's plot armour is starting to get annoying. And the teleportation, at least before there was enough time to fit in the travel needed even if they didn't show it. And the magic water saves, this time featuring freezing temperatures.
 

Gigglepoo

Member
Well tbf they were fighting in a slightly isolated area. If they wanted they could easily edit in that few wights died in a far enough area when Jon offed that WW . Or maybe that WW never reanimated any corpses.

It's always possible to hand wave plot holes by performing mental gymnastics. But unless there is on-screen evidence that killing a WW means their wights explode, what happened last episode is a retcon.
 
I wish people were as willing to perform mental gymnastics with BvS as they do with GoT.

Edit- whatever happened to the horn Sam found in the show?
 

Madness

Member
Of all the things....

Maybe they have hair salons in King's Landing?

Did you notice the servant girl in Ep 02 (iirc) who had the same hairstyle as Cercei?

More likely they don't care about the little things. Ie. Shireen and her not being black of hair but having blonder hair than a Lannister. Notice how Tyrion and Nikolai no longer have to really die their hair much anymore either.

Next season is about to be 6 episodes. Will be a breakneck pace with little time for the world building and small details.
 

mantidor

Member
Of all the things....

Maybe they have hair salons in King's Landing?

Did you notice the servant girl in Ep 02 (iirc) who had the same hairstyle as Cercei?

It's her court, they have always used the same types of dresses and same hairstyle as the queen. Margeary's Court was the same.
 

LifEndz

Member
Only six episodes for next season? Wow. Unless each episode is an hour and a half, it's going to feel like a whirlwind. They're really just yada yada'ing their way through this story.
 

TankUP

Member
I would take pleasure in the final seasons of the show being so bad because that would leave such a large gap for the books to fill in, negating the fact that so many reveals happened on screen instead of in the text, if I thought any more books were forthcoming.
 

Vic_Viper

Member
I wish people were as willing to perform mental gymnastics with BvS as they do with GoT.

Edit- whatever happened to the horn Sam found in the show?

I just asked about it the other day lol. Someone said Jon drops it or something in a fight but I've been rewatching from the beginning and haven't seen it once since it first appeared and I'm on Season 5.

It seemed pretty important at the time but just forgotten about.
 

watershed

Banned
So I guess the whole 3 headed dragon/3 dragon riders theory no longer applies to the show. I wonder if the books will head in the same direction.
 
I just asked about it the other day lol. Someone said Jon drops it or something in a fight but I've been rewatching from the beginning and haven't seen it once since it first appeared and I'm on Season 5.

It seemed pretty important at the time but just forgotten about.

Does Mance have the fake horn in the show? Or am I confusing it with the books?

Seems to be a forgotten plot point I guess.
 
Calling it now.

Everyone meeting up at KL.
Dragonbinder.
Chaos ensues.
Euron and Rhaegal.
Jon fights and defeats Euron.
Is the only one to calm and regain control of a wild Rhaegal.
Problem solved.
 

watershed

Banned
I'm not looking forward to Euron's role in the next episode. He's been such a stupid cheat code this whole season. I didn't see him in the episode preview which leads me to suspect that he plays a role in Cersei's inevitable trap. I hope I'm wrong.
 

dabig2

Member

Mostly tales from the ass, but some reading between the lines and outright cynicism. All of those comments are the standard non-committal, business-like kind of stuff we see all the time, mostly in sports which is where I'm getting my cynicism from on this issue. The productions in S6 were tough for him, notably the BotB. Like throwing out the script kind of tough. The only thing he's done this year is one episode of Iron Fist and his plate is otherwise pretty much clean in the future as well outside of the pilot of that upcoming Netflix sci-fi series. No way D&D didn't beg him to come back this season last summer after his work in S5 and S6 were lauded as some of the best on the show and the accolades he provided. Instead he takes breather and just remarks he "hopes" to come back and "we'll just have to wait and see" statements after already confirming he's not coming back for S7? I don't know, sounds fishy.
 
I'm not looking forward to Euron's role in the next episode. He's been such a stupid cheat code this whole season. I didn't see him in the episode preview which leads me to suspect that he plays a role in Cersei's inevitable trap. I hope I'm wrong.
Cerseis trap is a shit ton of scorpions pointed at Dany and dragons. About to be slaughtered, Euron is like nah bae why kill when we could have one, whips out his horn and voila!
 

watershed

Banned
It would be terrible if Euron could suddenly control the dragons. I know the Dragonbinder is a bigger deal in the books than in the show, but it would come across as the ultimate cheat code if Euron whips it out next episode. It would be worse than all his stealth, instant travel naval antics from earlier in the season.
 

duckroll

Member
Mostly tales from the ass, but some reading between the lines and outright cynicism. All of those comments are the standard non-committal, business-like kind of stuff we see all the time, mostly in sports which is where I'm getting my cynicism from on this issue. The productions in S6 were tough for him, notably the BotB. Like throwing out the script kind of tough. The only thing he's done this year is one episode of Iron Fist and his plate is otherwise pretty much clean in the future as well outside of the pilot of that upcoming Netflix sci-fi series. No way D&D didn't beg him to come back this season last summer after his work in S5 and S6 were lauded as some of the best on the show and the accolades he provided. Instead he takes breather and just remarks he "hopes" to come back and "we'll just have to wait and see" statements after already confirming he's not coming back for S7? I don't know, sounds fishy.

Errrrrrrrrrrrr.

https://twitter.com/MigSapochnik/status/765923103780155392
https://twitter.com/MigSapochnik/status/806138869112393729

He finished shooting Altered Carbon in December last year, started prepping in August. It was right in the middle of the S7 production. It was a scheduling conflict.

Please don't Tales from the Ass.
 
Mostly tales from the ass, but some reading between the lines and outright cynicism. All of those comments are the standard non-committal, business-like kind of stuff we see all the time, mostly in sports which is where I'm getting my cynicism from on this issue. The productions in S6 were tough for him, notably the BotB. Like throwing out the script kind of tough. The only thing he's done this year is one episode of Iron Fist and his plate is otherwise pretty much clean in the future as well outside of the pilot of that upcoming Netflix sci-fi series. No way D&D didn't beg him to come back this season last summer after his work in S5 and S6 were lauded as some of the best on the show and the accolades he provided. Instead he takes breather and just remarks he "hopes" to come back and "we'll just have to wait and see" statements after already confirming he's not coming back for S7? I don't know, sounds fishy.
Didn't he have to step back from S7 last year because of his work with Altered Carbon? (Netflix show)

Also, of course the work of a director on literally the biggest TV show ever is going to be tough and gruelling :p There are people in this world who love that way of life, usually because it's fulfilling and rewarding as hell. I mean what director wouldn't want the GoT finale on their resume? :D
 
It would be terrible if Euron could suddenly control the dragons. I know the Dragonbinder is a bigger deal in the books than in the show, but it would come across as the ultimate cheat code if Euron whips it out next episode. It would be worse than all his stealth, instant travel naval antics from earlier in the season.
Agreed.

But this is D&D's Euron. This is their cheat code.
 

Mortemis

Banned
Ugh. All these theories here about Euron are terrible. At this point I'd rather a storm in the sea magically destroys his fleet and ends his story.
 

Burt

Member

Euron's actor has been fun in a hammy way this season.

"You should try it sometime, feels wonderful."

"A fing-uh in the bum"

"What a twat"

That hilarious laugh after Theon bails out.

He makes no sense - Cersei would never marry him after the war when she would already have everything she needed him for - but I can't deny they upgraded him from 'dumb' to 'dumb fun'.

"I must leave, my planet needs me"

"Euron died on the way to his home planet"

I'd approve it.

Still, this would be perfectly fine and absolutely in line with the show this year.
 
It would be terrible if Euron could suddenly control the dragons. I know the Dragonbinder is a bigger deal in the books than in the show, but it would come across as the ultimate cheat code if Euron whips it out next episode. It would be worse than all his stealth, instant travel naval antics from earlier in the season.

Well we didn't see him last episode, in that span of time he could've sailed to Valyria, found the horn, and sailed back in time for the big meetup.
 

duckroll

Member
So are plot armor complaints. People are going to have to be around to finish the plot. Complaints about how his survival is being done are valid, though.

Plot armor doesn't mean someone survives. Plot armor means bad writing that conveniently lets major characters survive ridiculous situations created for artificial tension.
 

Tacitus_

Member
So are plot armor complaints. People are going to have to be around to finish the plot. Complaints about how his survival is being done are valid, though.

I am complaining about him surviving shit he has no business surviving. He would've been a Jonsicle before he made half of the way back to the Wall.
 
Like how the faceless wildlings got surrounded by wights but they were generous enough to fight the main characters one at a time

Or how Jon went into the water surrounded by wights and then just popped out
 

pablito

Member
Plot armor doesn't mean someone survives. Plot armor means bad writing that conveniently lets major characters survive ridiculous situations created for artificial tension.
I am complaining about him surviving shit he has no business surviving. He would've been a Jonsicle before he made half of the way back to the Wall.

Alright, so same thing. I had a misunderstanding of the term, then.

Yeah it's dumb.
 

gun_haver

Member
It's not often I have this opinion, but I think Cersei looks more attractive with the short hair/wig/whatever it is. It's also a cool style, she looks lean and ready for business.
 

rashbeep

Banned
I am complaining about him surviving shit he has no business surviving. He would've been a Jonsicle before he made half of the way back to the Wall.

Jon not dying didn't bother me as much as Tormund. We clearly saw the rando characters get wasted in seconds when they were swarmed by wights. Tormund surviving that was complete nonsense.
 
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