baphomet
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Ive got 4 stashed away now just in case the others ever die. 2 20"s and 2 14"s. Theres really no reason not to pick them up locally for cheap.
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Upscalers, CRTs, PVMs & RGB: Retro gaming done right!
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Ive got 4 stashed away now just in case the others ever die. 2 20"s and 2 14"s. Theres really no reason not to pick them up locally for cheap.
Oh I can think of a good reason: they take a fuckload of physical space, lol.
baphomet
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That is true. Thankfully i have a an excess of space. They are easily stackable though so theyre fairly easy to store as well.
IrishNinja
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generally yeah, but i don't always agree...again i sided with RGB for PS2; i felt the IQ was generally better & not enough games supported 480p anyway. my GC is component though, xbox i'd have to see side-by-side. antibolo made some good points too!
yeah, i saw in the pic you had! i just don't know where to look, these guys have been checking CL to no luck. one suggested maybe hitting up local TV networks but i kinda assume they'd be long gone by now? hospitals too; i worked for a big one out there that's had digital monitors forever now.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Dreamcast VGA is both RGBHV and 480p/31khz.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I know that on the shmups forum, a few people swear by RGB on the PS2. But it's definitely a compromise. The component signal is pretty noisy, but yeah, it's the only way to get 480p on the games that do support it (read: KOF XI; all day, every day.)
IrishNinja
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that's the thing, i didn't like the noise, and for my library, the list of 480p games is slim.
is it powered?
I was strictly talking about traditional SCART-compatible RGB. But yes, VGA is 31kHz (or more) and does not have those limitations.
Sad times. Moved all my stuff into my new room, and the CRT will never ever fit. Sigh.
On the upside, I'm getting a proper baller paycheck on Monday so I'm going to buy a framemeister from Solaris Japan as I now have no rent to pay or bills.
Just ordered a Euro RGB SCART to XRGB cable from videogamingcables.co.uk or whatever. So my setup will be consoles -> SCART multiplug switch ---> XRGB adapter to the xrgb.
Hooray! Nice and cheap.
On the upside, I'm getting a proper baller paycheck on Monday so I'm going to buy a framemeister from Solaris Japan as I now have no rent to pay or bills.
Just ordered a Euro RGB SCART to XRGB cable from videogamingcables.co.uk or whatever. So my setup will be consoles -> SCART multiplug switch ---> XRGB adapter to the xrgb.
Hooray! Nice and cheap.
Yep, depending what type of image quality hits your personal threshold, there are a lot of options and considerations. Like that "modify your $$$$ gamecube component cable" on on RGB. I personally doubt I'd ever see enough difference to warrant buying Gamecube + Component then getting modded over what I'm seeing for the Megaman collections on my Wii/Component setup.
Yeah, I got a full Cube setup last year but I really doubt I'll be going out to re-buy a component cable (sold mine years ago). Wii and Mini is good enough for me. Plus I've got some wavebirds and that white Gamecube controller released for the Wii. Only reason I probably will play my Cube is for the GBA Player.
CoachKevin
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Quick Framemesiter question.
How do I enable scanlines without going into "framemesiter" display set? I find that mode to be too dark and it makes two black lines show up.
How do I enable scanlines without going into "framemesiter" display set? I find that mode to be too dark and it makes two black lines show up.
Are you in 720p? That is where the scanlines look better. The 1080p scanlines are borked. There us also a scanline button on the remote
CoachKevin
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In 720p, looks OK, just was recommended by the maker of the Omega to make sure I manually turn those on.
From this image, I don't see that button.
Also if Meister mode is the only way you get scanlines, update your firmware. Later versions allow you to use scanlines in all modes.
And get an English language sticker for the remote from eBay. I'll post a pic in a minute.
Here's the image.
And here's a link to where to get them on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231052088477
And get an English language sticker for the remote from eBay. I'll post a pic in a minute.
Here's the image.
And here's a link to where to get them on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231052088477
CoachKevin
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You guys were right (can't believe I had that turned off the last few months after I updated the firmware...), is it normal to have a few thicker lines?
Seems to only show on the Omega, not the PC Engine Duo R, Genesis, or SNES.
Seems to only show on the Omega, not the PC Engine Duo R, Genesis, or SNES.
metsallica
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WHOA. What a good idea, why didn't I think of that!Also if Meister mode is the only way you get scanlines, update your firmware. Later versions allow you to use scanlines in all modes.
And get an English language sticker for the remote from eBay. I'll post a pic in a minute.
Here's the image.
And here's a link to where to get them on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/231052088477
IrishNinja
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can't recommend that english overlay enough, there's a guy on the SHMUPs forums who sells them for less than $10 i wanna say?
i don't notice separate thicker lines on any of my systems, i'm personally only seeing a bit of jutter when vertical scrolling over white images, which im starting to think might be my TV's internal scaler. still, you can adjust the thickness of the lines within the options (visual set? i forget), try that and see if it helps.
i don't notice separate thicker lines on any of my systems, i'm personally only seeing a bit of jutter when vertical scrolling over white images, which im starting to think might be my TV's internal scaler. still, you can adjust the thickness of the lines within the options (visual set? i forget), try that and see if it helps.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
^ Just spend a week learning Japanese katakana instead 
metsallica
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I've been lurking that forum FOREVER, but I'm not going to lie... I just registered and posted in that topic to save a dollar over the eBay link (it's the same guy in both places). Yep.
IrishNinja
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haha...a savings is a savings!
the best part was mine came in while i was waiting on Solairs to replace my then-dead remote, i just had that overlay mocking me for months.
^ Just spend a week learning Japanese katakana instead
This is the best advice.
There are some Kanji though, so it's a bit complicated for some buttons.
patrickthehedgehog
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Shouldn't take long to memorize them based on function and location if you don't normally use every single option all the time.
Superblatt
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If I'm thinking about picking up a sony pvm, and currently run all my consoles via s-video, is that a good idea? Currently my saturn, modded genesis and snes are hooked up to my giant tv in the basement.
baphomet
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Getting a pvm is always a good idea. Youll probably end up spending money for rgb cables, but its definitely worth it. How much are they asking for the pvm and what size?
Superblatt
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$75 for a 14". Says PVM-14N5U. Worth it?
baphomet
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Doesnt have RGB so i definitely wouldnt purchase it.
Yeah you have to be careful with the 14 inch PVMs, some of them don't have RGB, which kinda defeats the point of owning a PVM in the first place. They're not completely worthless since they do have really high quality S-video, but you might as well wait for a better model to pop up, especially if they're asking as much as $75, which is not a good deal anyway.
So, I got paid today. £2k for a first paycheck, which is lovely - especially now I have no debt or bills (apart from car, phone, etc). And considering my CRT cannot fit in my new room....
welp
That's £230, including shipping...which is far less than the £263 that was quoted by Solarisjapan - guess their currency conversion is fucked. Already got this cable to hook up my scart multiplug/switcher:
http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/...ni-adapter--euroscart-with-sync-stripper.html
hopefully it won't take long. I've wall mounted my TV, and haven't hooked up a SCART to it, so my retro consoles are going unused right now. This XRGB had better be as good as people say it is!
welp
That's £230, including shipping...which is far less than the £263 that was quoted by Solarisjapan - guess their currency conversion is fucked. Already got this cable to hook up my scart multiplug/switcher:
http://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/...ni-adapter--euroscart-with-sync-stripper.html
hopefully it won't take long. I've wall mounted my TV, and haven't hooked up a SCART to it, so my retro consoles are going unused right now. This XRGB had better be as good as people say it is!
Hm, if it's only the Omega.. i dunno. First thing to do is to make sure your TV is set to 1:1 pixelmapping/native display mode. If you are using any kind of zoom mode on your TV the scanlines will be corrupted. Next make sure the Framemeister is set to either Standard or Normal 2 zoom mode (if output is set to 720p). Also, if you've been fiddling with the V_width setting that will also corrupt the scanlines.You guys were right (can't believe I had that turned off the last few months after I updated the firmware...), is it normal to have a few thicker lines?
Seems to only show on the Omega, not the PC Engine Duo R, Genesis, or SNES.
Do you guys know how long it takes for Solaris Japan to ship to the UK? I selected standard Air Mail, which has an estimate of 2-5 days apparently, but my history of buying goods from Japan kinda sway me away from believing estimates.
Also, right now the status is "awaiting fullfilment". What does that mean?
I know this all sounds silly, but the reason I'm so eager to get the xrgb sooner rather than later is not only because my Mega Drive, PS1, SNES and N64 are sitting here unable to be played, but also I selected the wrong address (home address instead of my parents' cafe, which means if it gets here late next week no one will be at home...)
Regardless, which games should I try out first on the XRGB for best effect, considering I'm no stranger to RGB? I'm thinking Mario 64, Sonic3&K, Castlevania: SOTN and Seiken Densetsu 3. That should show the best of each console. All I want is for this to be a decent replacement for my CRT, at that price it had better be. It's my gaming budget for two months!
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Disregard the above, it's been shipped. Wahaaaaay!
Also, right now the status is "awaiting fullfilment". What does that mean?
I know this all sounds silly, but the reason I'm so eager to get the xrgb sooner rather than later is not only because my Mega Drive, PS1, SNES and N64 are sitting here unable to be played, but also I selected the wrong address (home address instead of my parents' cafe, which means if it gets here late next week no one will be at home...)
Regardless, which games should I try out first on the XRGB for best effect, considering I'm no stranger to RGB? I'm thinking Mario 64, Sonic3&K, Castlevania: SOTN and Seiken Densetsu 3. That should show the best of each console. All I want is for this to be a decent replacement for my CRT, at that price it had better be. It's my gaming budget for two months!
Edit:
Disregard the above, it's been shipped. Wahaaaaay!
That's me, actually. If anyone wants one and doesn't want to go through ebay, feel free to PM me through here as well. I sell them for a buck cheaper off ebay (because of fees). Most people prefer to go through ebay though, which is fine by me either way.
baphomet
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That's me, actually. If anyone wants one and doesn't want to go through ebay, feel free to PM me through here as well.
Thats very cool. Ill probably order one soon even though i dont have a mini just yet.
You are good people! This sticker made life with Framemeister so nice.
got my xrgb mini today. Tried PS2 with it. At first it the screen was showing a green tint and I didn't know what to do to change that until I tired setting the PS2 to use RGB color and that took care of it.
Only played FFVII. Looked real good with the scanline and stuff. Haven't played with many options yet. Does anyone know a good setting for PS2 to use on a 1080p TV? I have the HDMI output set to 720p.
still wating for my euro scart xrgb cable before I can try all my other systems (my PS2 is the only system I have a Japan scart cable for). Going to send my turbo duo for an rgb mod and stuff.
This is glorious!
Only played FFVII. Looked real good with the scanline and stuff. Haven't played with many options yet. Does anyone know a good setting for PS2 to use on a 1080p TV? I have the HDMI output set to 720p.
still wating for my euro scart xrgb cable before I can try all my other systems (my PS2 is the only system I have a Japan scart cable for). Going to send my turbo duo for an rgb mod and stuff.
This is glorious!
IrishNinja
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you do might fine work, man - thanks again! also really glad i had my girl apply the overlay, she's way better with this stuff. it's a lot more usable when i'm not drunkely trying to remember what button does what, haha
patrickthehedgehog
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You guys were right (can't believe I had that turned off the last few months after I updated the firmware...), is it normal to have a few thicker lines?
Seems to only show on the Omega, not the PC Engine Duo R, Genesis, or SNES.
It looked like you fixed this in the video. What exactly did you change?
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