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Valkyria Chronicles |OT| Beautiful art meets genre-redefining gameplay
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Psychotext
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So is it better to go after the exp etc than the rank?
Grazypanda
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I would say go for the weapons when doing chapter battles because those weapons are stronger then those you get from the queen as reward. But if you go for a lot of EXP then only getting a A rank isnt enough, you also have to kill the leader enemies. Because only getting the highest rank doesnt give you the most EXP, killing the leaders gives you a bigger bonus. When having a B-C rank and killed al the leaders will grand you more EXP then getting a A rank without killing all the leaders. Same with destroying tanks for example. Having a A rank is nice, but getting more EXP is better if you ask me.
LiveFromKyoto
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W00, five thousand
posts!
and seven
Psychotext
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Go for the weapons? Sorry, I'm fairly new to all of this. How do you get the weapons?Grazypanda said:
Grazypanda
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When doing a chapter battle there are enemies (foot soldiers or tanks) with different names. They are stronger then the other enemy soldiers you will face during the battle, but killing them will reward you with the weapon the carried after completing the battle. (sorry for my crappy english)
Psychotext
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That makes sense, and your English is fine. 
Augemitbutter
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finished the game. it was way too easy imo, but other than that im not able to complain much. perfect visuals, music, lenght etc and one of the top 5 HD games to date.
please make another one sega!
please make another one sega!
whats in the DLC? im not a big fan of DLC, but if its fairly priced i might bite. i dont want to be ripped off though.
So, I spent all weekend playing this game.
Firstly, I absolutely LOVE the combat in this game. I never thought I would see the day where I preferred anything over a grid-based-system in a SRPG, but this game has it beaten hands down. The difference between moving units around a grid and actually zooming down over the shoulder of a unit is astounding really. I find myself being much more engaged when charging an enemy encampment or trying to tiptoe through trenches to explore. Also, I really do love the attention that minor / sub characters got in this game. Their little sayings coupled with what you learn through their bios really make them more then just "units" or bullet-sponges. I still insist on using Ted in every battle if only to hear him say "I'll knock em dead!" every time you choose him, and even laugh a little when he dies ("Everyones....a....critic...")(I try to keep that from happening BTW). I find myself choosing characters just to hear what they are going to say sometimes when they move or proc potentials (Jane proccing Sadist is frightening ["Mmmm...scream for me."], Largo getting Veggie-Maniac is hilarious ["VEG-TA-BLES!"])
But that said, I do actually have some criticisms. I still think you should only be able to move a character once per turn, because being able to move the same unit multiple times makes the game way to easy (sniper + engineer, or Lancer + engineer is almost unfair). Also, the computer gets some crazy bullshit shots, as I have had more then one person die from a cross-map tank shell (the most unbelievable to this point has been a tank shooting between two walls of a building, through a smoke screen, and getting a headshot on a sniper literally on the other side of the map). And this biggest dissapointment thus far has been character development between Welkin and Alicia. Even at the point I am at [chapter 14-15]
Man, I haven't posted that much about a game in a while. Even though I have some criticisms, I can't help but love this game. I can't wait to finish the first run so that I can go back and get everything. Anyone know of a good guide for it (I'll resort to GameFAQS if I have to).
Firstly, I absolutely LOVE the combat in this game. I never thought I would see the day where I preferred anything over a grid-based-system in a SRPG, but this game has it beaten hands down. The difference between moving units around a grid and actually zooming down over the shoulder of a unit is astounding really. I find myself being much more engaged when charging an enemy encampment or trying to tiptoe through trenches to explore. Also, I really do love the attention that minor / sub characters got in this game. Their little sayings coupled with what you learn through their bios really make them more then just "units" or bullet-sponges. I still insist on using Ted in every battle if only to hear him say "I'll knock em dead!" every time you choose him, and even laugh a little when he dies ("Everyones....a....critic...")(I try to keep that from happening BTW). I find myself choosing characters just to hear what they are going to say sometimes when they move or proc potentials (Jane proccing Sadist is frightening ["Mmmm...scream for me."], Largo getting Veggie-Maniac is hilarious ["VEG-TA-BLES!"])
But that said, I do actually have some criticisms. I still think you should only be able to move a character once per turn, because being able to move the same unit multiple times makes the game way to easy (sniper + engineer, or Lancer + engineer is almost unfair). Also, the computer gets some crazy bullshit shots, as I have had more then one person die from a cross-map tank shell (the most unbelievable to this point has been a tank shooting between two walls of a building, through a smoke screen, and getting a headshot on a sniper literally on the other side of the map). And this biggest dissapointment thus far has been character development between Welkin and Alicia. Even at the point I am at [chapter 14-15]
I wouldn't have really known they love each other without reading the character profiles. I can't help but feel the in-game story telling just isn't doing it's job right. Of course, I'm a hopeless romantic, so perhaps it's just my fault, but it just seems like there were so many missed opportunities and poorly worded scenes.
Man, I haven't posted that much about a game in a while. Even though I have some criticisms, I can't help but love this game. I can't wait to finish the first run so that I can go back and get everything. Anyone know of a good guide for it (I'll resort to GameFAQS if I have to).
comedian said:
Oh I saw it coming, I just thought it was poorly done. Perhaps I just need things thrown in my face from time to time. I mean
It's obvious throughout that they care about each other, but it is never really explicitly said just how far that affection goes.
SabinFigaro
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Each turn = 4 Shocktroopers to a maximum of 20 on the map at a time. Infinite. Therefore, tis awesome.radiantdreamer said:
Durante said:
It's a Japanese thing. Actually, I remember thinking about how unusually open they were about
their affection
Also at issue is the translation, the subtitles are simply a transcription of the dub script, which is rather loose in some areas (not a critcism of the dub, dub scripts and subtitle scripts have different requirements and audiences... which is why I don't like dubtitles). I'd be surprised if the word
love
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
You get used to it pretty fast, peasant!RpgN said:Hey hey, that's on default. And what's on default is automatically the king
How can you handle 100 posts a page?
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
speedpop said:
There is nothing wrong with figures.
Psychotext
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Holy crap... the selection of recruits is a little overwhelming. :lol
Psychotext
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I'm sure someone will look at me like I've grown another head... but this feels to me very much like a modern day xcom (minus the jumping out of my skin when an alien blasts me out of no-where). I love it.
Psychotext said:I'm sure someone will look at me like I've grown another head... but this feels to me very much like a modern day xcom (minus the jumping out of my skin when an alien blasts me out of no-where). I love it.
Man, I would KILL for Xcom in this engine.... FUCK!
I like the game as it is though, just finished the mission where 2 are separated from the group.
Hah! Just my luck to bitch about something and then play another chapter. Just beat Chapter 16 and
. I'm kind of sad that I'm so near the end, but now I'm looking forward to the DLC (sweet god please come out in the US).
Also, for the New Game+, can you play through on a "hard mode" or do you just re-play and steamroll everything because it's so low leveled? If it's the latter I guess I will at least get everyone's biography's complete by switching out for characters I never used.
EDIT: Ignore my question. I actually took the time to read about 40+ pages of this thread. Good stuff guys <3.
Welkin finally redeemed himself. Killing off Isara earlier was one of the smartest decisions they made, because I was utterly convinced that Alicia was going to sacrifice herself and that I was going to be real, real pissed. I still feel they didn't develop the relationship between Welkin and Alicia to my liking (it was there, just, damn, grow some Welkin), but that just made the payoff of the end of 16 better.
Also, for the New Game+, can you play through on a "hard mode" or do you just re-play and steamroll everything because it's so low leveled? If it's the latter I guess I will at least get everyone's biography's complete by switching out for characters I never used.
EDIT: Ignore my question. I actually took the time to read about 40+ pages of this thread. Good stuff guys <3.
Psychotext said:I'm sure someone will look at me like I've grown another head... but this feels to me very much like a modern day xcom (minus the jumping out of my skin when an alien blasts me out of no-where). I love it.
As much as I like VC, it's nowhere near the awesomeness of X-COM. It's way much simpler (not even considering the management parts in X-COM games).
Psychotext
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For sure, there's a whole bunch of things xcom did better, but it gives me the same general vibe.
Psychotext said:
Because it's a TRPG too, maybe ?
I see VC more like a TRPG 101 game. For some reason, now that I've almost beaten it, I'm less in love than after a few chapters. Maybe I thought the game would add much more possibilities, dunno...
The characters are basically all the same (most of the potentials being completely useless, or not really affecting anything), there are not enough weapons... etc.
And not being able to crouch/crawl anywhere is annoying
The core gameplay is really good, the art excellent, the story decent, but its mechanics are way too simple. It's still a great game tho, no doubt.
Psychotext
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I know one thing for sure... I suddenly really want to play some modern day xcom. :lol
The way to clear Ch. 7 in 4 turns that I wouldn't have thought of, crazy !
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5211750
And 1 turn clear of "War Without Weapons", crazy ! Exploit the double/continuous actions so much
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5512982
Note: You need an account to watch and the pages are all in Japanese
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5211750
And 1 turn clear of "War Without Weapons", crazy ! Exploit the double/continuous actions so much
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5512982
Note: You need an account to watch and the pages are all in Japanese
Owensboro said:
Ch. 7:
Destroy all guns with Lancers as usual, then on turn 4, use Lancers to shoot at all 3 radiators so they're almost destroyed; then use a Lancer and shoot a mortar at center of Batomys, destroying all 3 radiators at once. Might be able to use Edelweiss' mortar as well.
Rosie Report:
Abuse the hell out of Double Action (Engineers), Double Movement (Alicia), and Hard Worker (Lynn), along with using many of the special weapons that you don't get w/o the DLC (ZM Kar 7, Ruhm). I don't remember how many CP you start with, so I can't tell if he used orders to get those potentials to activate, but either way, I didn't find it quite as impressive as the Ch. 7 video.
SabinFigaro
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FlyinJ said:
At level 11, Elite Lancers can equip mortars. You have to do this in the status screen, as it's not a secondary fire a la rocket grenades/flamethrower
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
What? I thought that wasn't a level thing, but a weapon research branch thing.SabinFigaro said:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
You can one-shot the radiators with grenades. Don't worry about the vid, that was just for a speed run essentially.Snaku said:
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