I like the Kiva designs and fights a whole lot. It has some great characters as well. I'll easily admit that the story is a complete mess, but I'd say overall I enjoyed the show.
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I like the Kiva designs and fights a whole lot. It has some great characters as well. I'll easily admit that the story is a complete mess, but I'd say overall I enjoyed the show.
SousedLouse
Member
Yeah, overall. I mean, the show itself is middling to me, but there are a lot of little bits and pieces that I really, really liked. I liked most of the suit designs, I loved the music, and I found some scenes pretty entertaining. And I felt that the movie was great, way better than the show. Overall, when I think of Kiva I'm left with a generally positive impression, so I'd say that I like it.
But I avoid re-watching the TV show like the plague.
Kiva was an unfortunate series when I didn't know any better about Kamen Rider. I expected something it never tried to do and ended up massively disappointed. Looking back at it, it's probably OK and I really like the dual timeline thing it had. The show's inconsistency and choreography still bothers me though.
so i finished tomica heroes rescue force.
the good things are that the costumes arent bad for the squad type actions that they partake in.
date is pretty good in this. he seems like a cool ass dude to chill with in real life.
and the mecha is pretty god damned awesome. although it has the most awkward human mecha mode ive ever seen.
the bad.... is the villains. they dont really do much of anything, and because of that, theres not much of an overall story arc. it pretty much comes rescuing civilians and coming down to smashing up the big machine of the episode and thats it.
its obviously for kids when it comes to story, and thats completely understandable, but the production values are pretty good. its a same theres only 3 series in the takara line.
the good things are that the costumes arent bad for the squad type actions that they partake in.
date is pretty good in this. he seems like a cool ass dude to chill with in real life.
and the mecha is pretty god damned awesome. although it has the most awkward human mecha mode ive ever seen.
the bad.... is the villains. they dont really do much of anything, and because of that, theres not much of an overall story arc. it pretty much comes rescuing civilians and coming down to smashing up the big machine of the episode and thats it.
its obviously for kids when it comes to story, and thats completely understandable, but the production values are pretty good. its a same theres only 3 series in the takara line.
Edag Plata
Banned
I loved Kiva. It was my first Rider show and everyone I've introduced it to has fallen in love with it too.
You can be a fan of Toku by loving Toku, not just Super Sentai. Check out some Kamen Rider, although they are also aimed at kids, from a Western viewpoint they'll seem quite...uh...dramatic.
Dropped it by the second episode.
Apparently, you get a major power up by simply ripping your shirt off.
I still watch it, but they're doing a lot of recaps episodes of the show and other Ultraman shows.
I still watch it, but they're doing a lot of recaps episodes of the show and other Ultraman shows.
i want to watch rescue fire, but the torrent sets are fucked. ryukendo has better rates
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
KR is not any less childish than SS. With that said Gokaiger is very "childish" compared to, say, Shinkenger or Go-Busters.
Hell, I say Garo is still pretty much average in plot despite being touted as "for mature viewers" (only thing it has really is gore and showing more skin).
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/02/wo...nted=all&_r=2&
NY Times article about Ginga and Toku in general
Does anyone still watch this show?
Also: weird
damn you nytimes I can't link to your photos without work
I find it weird they'd make a toku article.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Rescue Fire and Ryukendo are both up on KRDL.
http://risingsuntokusatsu.com/?p=9943
This is good news for me who liked pre-Kabuto shows, but I still don't think it will be THAT different.
This is good news for me who liked pre-Kabuto shows, but I still don't think it will be THAT different.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I found Kiva the show to be boring, but I recall Kiva the series fondly, if that makes sense. Like I love all the suits (need more Saga!), the music, most of the characters (Wataru was pretty weak to be honest), and the iconic "poses" that Kiva always did like his cool fang-style run. So it ranks bottom for Kamen Rider series for me, but I have a bit of a soft spot for it. Den-O's the same way, I was bored watching it mostly and it was really slow, but I look back on all the characters fondly.
The Kiva Movie was pretty good too, probably my favorite KR Movie next to Farewell Den-O. The Climax Movie with Kiva and Den-O was also pretty fun, too.
I'm watching Wizard right now and I have to say, unless it suddenly takes a nose-dive, it's nowhere near as bad as everyone acts. The weakest part is the supporting cast, but the fights are fun, I've enjoyed the Gate storylines (the one with that sweets cook dude who's in every Tokusatsu it seems, he was Charcoal Org in Gaoranger) despite the fact they all end the same way, and Haruto isn't as obnoxious as he felt to me when I saw him in a few appearances.
The Kiva Movie was pretty good too, probably my favorite KR Movie next to Farewell Den-O. The Climax Movie with Kiva and Den-O was also pretty fun, too.
I'm watching Wizard right now and I have to say, unless it suddenly takes a nose-dive, it's nowhere near as bad as everyone acts. The weakest part is the supporting cast, but the fights are fun, I've enjoyed the Gate storylines (the one with that sweets cook dude who's in every Tokusatsu it seems, he was Charcoal Org in Gaoranger) despite the fact they all end the same way, and Haruto isn't as obnoxious as he felt to me when I saw him in a few appearances.
Holy crap yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! I fucking hate that every show adopted the extremely shallow 2-episode "arcs". Guess viewership was falling enough that they really have to consider getting rid of that stupid crutch.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I wonder if Gaim will have something similar to "THIS IS GOLGOM PLOT"
This is exactly what i needed to know, and kind of what i wanted to hear. eventhough i love the pirate motif, ive heard that gokaiger is one of the childist seasons.
Edag Plata
Banned
What makes it childish?
How is go busters less childish than gokaiger?
chickdigger802
Banned
never really a fan of monster of the 2 week format of modern kamen rider.
kick monster ass, woops he teleported away! For the most part, i've been just watching the 2nd eps of each arc for Kamen Rider unless the topic matter is interesting to me. The recap does a good enough job lol.
kick monster ass, woops he teleported away! For the most part, i've been just watching the 2nd eps of each arc for Kamen Rider unless the topic matter is interesting to me. The recap does a good enough job lol.
The changes to Gaim's formula do sound very exciting, although I certainly hope it is handled better than the Heisei era. Writing for Kamen Rider has gotten a lot better in the past 15 years (Wizard aside), and if I see something like Faiz again I'm going to go nuts.
It's not really even close to being the childest of the Sentai seasons. Goseiger, Go-Onger, Gingaman, Zyuranger, and a great deal of 80's and 70's shows were a lot more childish, due to either using storylines and characters that were specifically made to appeal to children, to characters that were written to not have conflict and be more like role models, to simply being more repetitive and inoffensive.
Heck, with few exceptions and even with the removal of explicit stuff like gore, Toku shows have gottena lot more "mature" in recent decades, simply because of deeper characters, stories, and plots that weren't made to just keep children in a trance for half an hour while they advertise their toys. A lot of this can be attributed due to women becoming a bigger and bigger part of the show's audience, though.
It's not really even close to being the childest of the Sentai seasons. Goseiger, Go-Onger, Gingaman, Zyuranger, and a great deal of 80's and 70's shows were a lot more childish, due to either using storylines and characters that were specifically made to appeal to children, to characters that were written to not have conflict and be more like role models, to simply being more repetitive and inoffensive.
Heck, with few exceptions and even with the removal of explicit stuff like gore, Toku shows have gottena lot more "mature" in recent decades, simply because of deeper characters, stories, and plots that weren't made to just keep children in a trance for half an hour while they advertise their toys. A lot of this can be attributed due to women becoming a bigger and bigger part of the show's audience, though.
SousedLouse
Member
I can see it now; at even the slightest inconvenience, Kota will stop dead in his tracks, make a face like this
and murmur that it might be be caused by a Invase. Other riders attacking him? Invase. Turf wars? Invase. Stubbed his toe? Invase.
Then, in a colossal deconstruction of the concept, he'll have a scene where he refuses to make another bad call on what might be causing the problem of the week - only for an Invase monster to be solely responsible.
Just what you'd expect from the master, Mr. Urobuchi.
chickdigger802
Banned
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/02/w...uits-godzilla-roars.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2&
NY Times article about Ginga and Toku in general
Does anyone still watch this show?
Also: weird
damn you nytimes I can't link to your photos without work
would totally visit that museum tour thing.
would watch a toku documentary too.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
So, how many rivers do you think the Riders will end up in?
Also, it sounds like they're gonna set up Balon to end up as a good guy, and I bet Ryugen will end up going a darker path throughout the show. Zangetsu seems like he might be the first to die, probably setting his brother on said darker path.
Also, it sounds like they're gonna set up Balon to end up as a good guy, and I bet Ryugen will end up going a darker path throughout the show. Zangetsu seems like he might be the first to die, probably setting his brother on said darker path.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
There's a serious stake in their story and even the villains get something out of their stuff despite losing/bumbling. Also bittersweet stuff and crap.
Much like how RPM is less childish despite having comedy.
I can see it now; at even the slightest inconvenience, Kota will stop dead in his tracks, make a face like this
and murmur that it might be be caused by a Invase. Other riders attacking him? Invase. Turf wars? Invase. Stubbed his toe? Invase.
Then, in a colossal deconstruction of the concept, he'll have a scene where he refuses to make another bad call on what might be causing the problem of the week - only for an Invase monster to be solely responsible.
Just what you'd expect from the master, Mr. Urobuchi.
Bahahahah that'd be awesome!
chickdigger802
Banned
Nice, Kyoryuger got a new intro. All of the Rangers so far on one shot!
Sakamoto's power up episodes are amazing.
its not even about jumping in front of explosions anymore? neat.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I liked the Kakuranger/Hurricanger reference.
Episode reminded me of the Fang Joker episode of Double where they couldn't transform but then got out of it with the power up. This solution was way less interesting though.
Episode reminded me of the Fang Joker episode of Double where they couldn't transform but then got out of it with the power up. This solution was way less interesting though.
There's a serious stake in most toku series. villains winning gambits isn't anything different either. And there was nothing dark enough for me to see it any more serious than any other series.
Edag Plata
Banned
Does it keep you up at night?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Fits with the other Dinosaur sentai.
So Utchy's dying
This sure does sound like Zyuranger to me. Unless OT's pulling a fast one on everyone.
Nice, Kyoryuger got a new intro. All of the Rangers so far on one shot!
Sakamoto's power up episodes are amazing.
his battlizer mode looks like a combination of abared, and ryuki survive
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
He looks like Ryouma from Gingaman.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
They're gonna use that for Battlizer? I thought they stopped doing that around JF?
Well their predicament is already in a sad moment, there's some more personal, serious stakes in them, and we get stuff like characters not returning. No I'm not saying it's dark, it's just it's not too light-hearted like Go-Onger, Kyoryuger or Gokaiger. It's more like Shinkenger or Maskman where it's somber.
Well their predicament is already in a sad moment, there's some more personal, serious stakes in them, and we get stuff like characters not returning. No I'm not saying it's dark, it's just it's not too light-hearted like Go-Onger, Kyoryuger or Gokaiger. It's more like Shinkenger or Maskman where it's somber.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
The only toku I'm watching is Ginga because I dropped Wizard and Kyoryu, so is Gremlin still around?
Yes....sadly...
Edag Plata
Banned
Why......
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
HENSHIN!
Wow, they're gonna milk Gremlin dry are they?
Not that we needed any more proof that you hate fun, but here it is
Why not?
I pretty much did the same thing with Go-Onger (stopped around Silver and Gold were introduced). Hyper Sentai isn't my thing.
Edag Plata
Banned
So your name suggests the answer, but what IS your favorite Sentai?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Deka has comedy but not super hyper comedy
And it's more of an action show first anyway.
My favorite is between Maskman, Bioman, and Jetman, with some Shinkenger and Go-Busters.
Edag Plata
Banned
Deka has comedy but not super hyper comedy
So you're a no fun sorta guy, eh? The more srs bsns the better?
Here's Amit Bhaumik (writer for Power Rangers Wild Force, Forever Red, and some episodes of Samurai) original proposal for Power Rangers Samurai that was rejected by Saban for a closer translation of Shinkenger.
Unrelated:
Funny thing, here's Daigo's actor when he was a kid in 1998:
Yeah. Beast did a heck of a lot this episode; pretty much saved the world and ended his storyline. The show is practically over now thanks to him, all Haruto did was get caught and whine.
Unrelated:
Funny thing, here's Daigo's actor when he was a kid in 1998:
Yeah. Beast did a heck of a lot this episode; pretty much saved the world and ended his storyline. The show is practically over now thanks to him, all Haruto did was get caught and whine.
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Interesting read. Bulk and the kid make a lot more sense there than their random appearances in Samurai proper.
Funny thing, here's Daigo's actor when he was a kid in 1998:
I decided to look up how old he is after seeing this. I shouldn't have done that.
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