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VANQUISH |OT| Bullet Ballet performed by the London Awesome orchestra
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adversesolutions
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DenogginizerOS said:
Vanquish
Bayonetta has a slightly more tolerable story and a crazy battle system, but Vanquish is a lot more accessible (dare I say
easier
I hate 4-2 on God Hard, those BIAs are hell, I can't figure out a consistent way to deal with them and they show up right at the end of the chapter.
It feels like I would need to get lucky and get rockets from crates, I use the LFE gun to stun them but they always find a way to dick me over. So frustrating!
It feels like I would need to get lucky and get rockets from crates, I use the LFE gun to stun them but they always find a way to dick me over. So frustrating!
R
Retro_
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TheGoldenGunman said:
I kind of have them pegged as a developer like Treasure, in that if they would make a sequel, it would really expand upon the game mechanics of the original as opposed to being the same game, new levels. Like Sin and Punishment 2 and Bangai-O spirits.
Other than that I agree I'd like to see more original games first, but if they ever did a sequel to any of their existing games, I'd want it to be Vanquish no contest.(Madworld is kind of a dead end concept and Bayonetta is already a pretty refined product from their work on DMC at capcom.)
adversesolutions
Member
Beat Challenge 1 tonight. Took me about six tries. If the others are a lot harder than this I'm slightly worried.
Dude Abides
Banned
+1, PS3 version. I'm usually not much for replaying most games so I hope this will be an exception.
slaughterking said:
True. But again, these are new IPs that they're trying to market. Not mention that unusual odds are placed against them. For Bayo, it was a delay of the Western version + a bad PS3 port; for Vanquish, it was being marketed around the same time that pretty much every big Fall release stands to come out.
For Bayonetta and Vanquish to have seemingly done well enough to meet Sega's expectations is something that I think is a good thing.
Liberty4all
Banned
Animator said:
Fair enough. Again I didn't actually handle this review myself, I'm just the guy who distributes review copies out to staff.
Was curious to see what you guys thought about the game .... I think Blake's longevity score was based on a "from start to finish" point of view rather than looking at score attack replay value. Personally I think this was a bad call on his part (I'm assuming based on what you guys are saying Vanguish operates kind of like "The Club" in terms of scoring, chain combo's and speed runs through the game?).
Bottom line everyone has different feelings as to what constitutes "longevity" ... Personally I can see the replay value in a game that focuses on score runs, but other reviewers may see this as an excuse for a lack of content.
Really though take all reviews (including ours) with a grain of salt. My personal opinion is that gaming journalism consists mostly of enthusiasts whose opinion is worth about as much as the next guy's.
Baloonatic
Member
358 deaths on the penultimate boss :lol Not looking forward to the final section.
practice02
Banned
Personally I think the problem is a the slow death of writers voices and the lack reviews having multiple opinions from different people. That's why I cherished EGM soo much.....Bamelin said:
slaughterking
Member
Yay, I wont comment on the difficulty, but I liked the view when I was browsing through the rankings. :lol
Strummerjones
Member
Finally got my Zavvi pre-order this afternoon. Not had time to get far this evening, but I just played the first challenge level. Did badly on my first go and... I've got the 17th fastest time on the Xbox 360 version. So yeah, not many people playing this game, sadly.
iconoclast
Member
Just beat challenge 6. Pretty intense challenge, for sure. Now I just need to clean up some random achievements, collect a billion statues, and I'll have my 1000/1000. 
slaughterking
Member
What gave you more trouble? God Hard or challenge 6?
iconoclast
Member
God Hard by faaaaaaar. It only took me a couple hours for challenge 6, but I did read some tips going in (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=269708).
slaughterking
Member
Alright, so I take it challenge 6 is not actually near impossible.
iconoclast
Member
It's fairly tough, but none of the waves are wtfffffff hard like some areas of God Hard. It's more about consistency, I think. I'd say wave 4 is the hardest (blue RIs, two BFAs, two flying turrets).
Wave 5 isn't too bad if you're prepared with EMP grenades, the LFE gun, and maybe some rockets (I will say that I fired 6 rockets and the bogies and 5 of them missed :| ).
Wave 5 isn't too bad if you're prepared with EMP grenades, the LFE gun, and maybe some rockets (I will say that I fired 6 rockets and the bogies and 5 of them missed :| ).
FlashbladeGAF
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Do you have to beat the rest of the challenges to unlock challenge 6?
I beat Challenge 5 first to see if it unlocked challenge 6, but I had no luck there
I beat Challenge 5 first to see if it unlocked challenge 6, but I had no luck there
iconoclast
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I think you have to beat them all to unlock 6, but I'm not sure. I just did them all in order.
enemy variation is a bit meh actually now :S
too many romanovs.
maybe i;m playing it too slow or something but by now i'd have liked to see a few more new things than just romanovs that shoot different stuff. only on chapter 3 though
i tend to die by doing something stupid, not so much because of hard enemies being around.
that scorpion monster thing was kind of baller though, whatever those are.
too many romanovs.
maybe i;m playing it too slow or something but by now i'd have liked to see a few more new things than just romanovs that shoot different stuff. only on chapter 3 though
i tend to die by doing something stupid, not so much because of hard enemies being around.
that scorpion monster thing was kind of baller though, whatever those are.
adversesolutions
Member
iconoclast said:
Congrats on the Challenge 6 clear man. All that work on God Mode seems to have toughened the shit out of you.
Were the last two Bogies that much easier on challenge 6 because you have stable cover?
Some guy is saying that on Challenge 6 you should only fire rockets when the Bogies are in the air doing a long-range attack.
iconoclast
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adversesolutions said:
There's actually not a ton of cover to stay behind, most of the time you're going to be boosting and rolling in order to avoid their attacks. The main difference is, the first bogey you kill has very low health, and since the challenges take place on normal difficulty (I assume), you can make use of the ARS to do a lot of damage quickly. So you're basically going into ARS and shooting the blue bogey until it's nearly depleted, then you spend the rest of the time boosting and rolling until your meter refills. And thankfully you can actually take some hits here and there; it's not like God Hard where you get touched once and you're probably fucked.
About the rockets, yeah that's what I was doing. It always worked for me when I was fighting them on 5-3, but for some reason it would always miss them by an inch during the challenge. Just some bad luck/timing I guess.
mjemirzian
Banned
Oh boy.. going to take out DOOM and Hibachi next?
iconoclast
Member
mjemirzian said:Oh boy.. going to take out DOOM and Hibachi next?
At the same time!
Okay, back to collecting worthless statues. I wish developers would stop putting tons of collectibles into their game that are good for nothing but achievements.
Volcynika said::lol
I chose economy box (I've never had a problem other than waiting) on it. Good you got a copy though
Yeah I didn't realise it was out today, lucky you mentioned it or I probably would have missed out. I went for Fedex because I had a few other things together with it and the difference between that and economy box was $4.
biosnake20
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whats gafs general consensus of this game? im not sure if i should get it. Is it long and is there any type of multipleyer?
biosnake20 said:
It's a good length (6-7 hours) but the value comes from replaying it, the whole game is designed around that.
No multiplayer other than leaderboards, definitely not that kind of game.
There's also a cool challenge mode that is somewhat comparable to RE's mercenaries mode, kind of a gauntlet where you fight hordes of enemies.
The core gameplay is so good but it seems not everyone gets it, try the demo a couple of times to see if you click with it.
Discotheque
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biosnake20 said:
LOLLLL.
Great game though.
adversesolutions
Member
d0c_zaius said:
I had the same experience. I played the demo and was like "eh, it's cool, I'll pick it up", but it was about Chapter 2 when I realized how special this game truly is. Probably GotY for me.
biosnake20
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adversesolutions said:
whoa goty? really?
adversesolutions said:
Was it during the
train level?
The little gimmick it does really goes a long way in making it feel really entertaining and unique, and trust me I know my train levels :lol .
Also at first, I was really dissing the basic enemy design. But playing it on hard, where any one can kill you if you get too lazy, and those little purple guys really start to show some personality and depth. And how funny is it to be trained to KILL PURPLE ANYTHING when slo-mo is on.
It may be too "hand holding", but a flushed out tutorial/ challenge mode that presented different situations/AR usage would go a long way in giving the user an impression on how the game is meant to be played before the first act begins.
If it keeps going the way it is, it will definitely be a GOTY contender for me.
â Narayan
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Why even ask this? He already posted it.biosnake20 said:
It's probably going to end up as my GOTY as well. Need to beat God Hard first, though.
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Deleted member 30609
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I think, overall, Bayonetta was the better experience.
Finished Act 2. Amazing game. What a fantastic insane fast-paced experience. Excellent pacing as well. Boost boost shoot shoot ARS shoot boost evade ARS shoot shoot boost ARS shoot evade boost boost melee evade cover shoot boost ARS shoot maaaaaaaan.
This will rank very highly on my GOTY list as well, possibly at the very top. Between this and Bayonetta, Platinum is quickly turning into my favorite dev. Maybe I should wipe the dust off Infinite Space
This will rank very highly on my GOTY list as well, possibly at the very top. Between this and Bayonetta, Platinum is quickly turning into my favorite dev. Maybe I should wipe the dust off Infinite Space
leng jai said:
They are. Some of them are very far out and not easily visible unless you're scoping with a sniper rifle. There's even one that's actually not directly visible, it's hiding in a random dumpter that you have to know to melee.
adversesolutions
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Llyranor said:This will rank very highly on my GOTY list as well, possibly at the very top. Between this and Bayonetta, Platinum is quickly turning into my favorite dev. Maybe I should wipe the dust off Infinite Space
No no.
No need. :lol
brandonh83
Banned
Just beat it, final time 4:31. Didn't think length was a problem. Need sequel now.
hukasmokincaterpillar
Member
Just got through chapter two, I really can't rave enough about this game. Inverting the traditional cover mechanic was friggin' brilliant. The first time I boosted out of cover into a slow motion rocket sledding death ballad was a Colonel Kurtz 'diamond bullet through the head' moment. "The genius of that!"
ARS suit is fun and tactical, you're always dealing with questions of time, precision, pay load and vulnerability, and all at a break neck pace. It incentivises risky play but there's a healthy check on recklessness. It's hard to put a finger on the balance they achieved here but it's pretty consistent I think. I rarely feel cheated (hard mode). Even the goofy ammo/upgrade system grew on me after awhile. Every little design decision seems thoughtfully considered and complementary throughout the whole. Really solid stuff.
I don't know if it ruins Uncharted/GoW gameplay but any world without rocket sledding is now a world left wanting.
ARS suit is fun and tactical, you're always dealing with questions of time, precision, pay load and vulnerability, and all at a break neck pace. It incentivises risky play but there's a healthy check on recklessness. It's hard to put a finger on the balance they achieved here but it's pretty consistent I think. I rarely feel cheated (hard mode). Even the goofy ammo/upgrade system grew on me after awhile. Every little design decision seems thoughtfully considered and complementary throughout the whole. Really solid stuff.
I don't know if it ruins Uncharted/GoW gameplay but any world without rocket sledding is now a world left wanting.
FrostuTheNinja
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d0c_zaius said:
One of the few lines in an action game that made me chuckle.