Eh? Chicken & pork would be the wisest meat to eat if you feel like eating meat (and don't want to eat fish). Red meat is the worst of all. Not only to your health but also to the environment.
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This is pretty a common reason for people to leave veganism, and I believe all except for a very few cases could've been prevented with eating better. What was your diet like? Were you eating enough food overall? Vegan diets can be a challenge if you're new, but when you get the hang of it they can make you feel great. If you want to give it a go, have a look at www.theveganrd.com and www.veganhealth.org for some nutrition info. I don't judge you for eating animal products, but I hope you reconsider omitting them for good with a little more nutritional support. Good luck!
And here's a basic plate guide:
Honestly I have no clue if I ate enough or not, I would feel full tough. I'll bookmark your links for future reference. Maybe I should start paying more attention to what I eat even now to have something to reference back to.
There have been some outbreaks and findings of multi resistent bacteria in the meat and farms in Norway, and apparently the situation is worse in the rest of the world. Hearing about that was the main push for me to change my diet as I want no part of setting back medical progress to the dark ages.
Buy organic. They don't use antibiotics & in general should have the chicken in better conditions. At least they shouldn't, as then they shouldn't be able to label their chicken organic.
The same overuse of antibiotics is a problem with cattle as well, in addition to the vastly worse ecological effect.
I wasn't aware of that, I'll look into it. It feels a bit odd to consider it since I have chicken coded as "enemy" right now, but if it really turns out to be the better option it deserves a chance.
Which country are you from? In the UK most of the big (even smaller) supermarkets have Vegan lists. Some even label their products as Vegan.
anonymous_abc
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You'll be better off in the long run cooking your own food with fresh ingredients anyway. Tasty tomato soup is supper easy to make and can be varied in loads of ways.
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=279361087
£1.50 for a really nice tomato and basil soup!
£1.50 for a really nice tomato and basil soup!
I have seen these before but they are small & expensive. I want the traditional marshmellows but never can find them vegan/vegetarian friendly. :'(
RumblingRosco
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I'm not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but I often aim for having meat- or animal product-free meals. Recently I tried replacing dairy milk for soy milk, but I found out that it doesn't agree with me. Same for soy yogurt in place of dairy yogurt. I end up getting minor stomach cramps, a ton of bloating, and really nasty-smelling gas. Has anyone else ever experienced this?
My understanding is that this is due to certain oligosaccharides found in soy products. I can eat legumes easily (like, I can literally eat a can of black beans without any discomfort), it seems like soy milk, soy yogurt, and Soylent get me badly though. Would Beano be helpful, perhaps? My two major reasons for choosing more vegan/vegetarian options are 1) I feel bad for animals and 2) to be more environmentally-friendly... but I have no way of determining whether the process to make and produce Beano is relatively harmful towards the environment, which makes me question if replacing soy milk and a Beano tablet in place of dairy milk is really a net gain in that regard.
My understanding is that this is due to certain oligosaccharides found in soy products. I can eat legumes easily (like, I can literally eat a can of black beans without any discomfort), it seems like soy milk, soy yogurt, and Soylent get me badly though. Would Beano be helpful, perhaps? My two major reasons for choosing more vegan/vegetarian options are 1) I feel bad for animals and 2) to be more environmentally-friendly... but I have no way of determining whether the process to make and produce Beano is relatively harmful towards the environment, which makes me question if replacing soy milk and a Beano tablet in place of dairy milk is really a net gain in that regard.
if you're a little sad to report that you're going to eat meat, and assuming you stopped eating meat (except fish of course...) for ethical reasons, then yes, it's pretty disappointing.
a proper vegan diet (which is not terribly difficult to maintain if you put in at least a little effort) shouldn't make you feel unhealthy, quite the opposite.
have you been seen by a doctor? were you taking any supplements? are you just assuming it's your diet? it would be a shame to do something you believe is wrong because you arent feeling healthy. especially if you arent sure of the reason why, or refused to put in any effort to keep yourself healthy.
anonymous_abc
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Welcome to the thread Soka!
You could try other dairy free milks like almond, coconut or hemp milk.
I understand your concerns, for the average consumer it is often
But I'm pretty sure soy (milk) is better for the environment overall than cattle (milk). Especially considering cattle eat loads of soy themselves.
Not that I have a link at hand to underline that though.
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http://theconversation.com/soy-versus-dairy-whats-the-footprint-of-milk-8498
Dictator93
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Part-time vegetarian here posting:
in a week or so a friend of my gf is coming over who is vegan and I want to make something great for dinner. Are there any wonderful dishes you guys know of / enjoy that I could prepare? Difficulty/cuisine origin is not a problem as I cook diverse dishes all the time, I just don't want to break the bank grabbing some rare 1-off ingredients
in a week or so a friend of my gf is coming over who is vegan and I want to make something great for dinner. Are there any wonderful dishes you guys know of / enjoy that I could prepare? Difficulty/cuisine origin is not a problem as I cook diverse dishes all the time, I just don't want to break the bank grabbing some rare 1-off ingredients
anonymous_abc
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Part-time vegetarian here posting:
in a week or so a friend of my gf is coming over who is vegan and I want to make something great for dinner. Are there any wonderful dishes you guys know of / enjoy that I could prepare? Difficulty/cuisine origin is not a problem as I cook diverse dishes all the time, I just don't want to break the bank grabbing some rare 1-off ingredients
I recommend this awesome shepherd's pie!
this is my go to shepards pie.
http://www.vegkitchen.com/recipes/v...mushrooms/lentil-and-mushroom-shepherd’s-pie/
I did not see a doctor when I started feeling bad and changed my eating habits after about a week of that. I did go to a doctor recently because I had a fainting spell (after having reintroduced some meat) but it hasn't repeated itself and they concluded that nothing was out of the ordinary after some tests.
I haven't done any supplements, since I were more vegetarian than vegan I guessed B12 would be covered by yoghurt and occasionally fortified oats. Right now I'm taking some extra vitamins (C and D) but they are not prescribed.
For what I belive in my priorities are very straight:
1. not contribute to multiresistens bacteria
2. reduce environmental impact
3. animal rights/ethics
Writing out that list makes me feel like I shouldn't even be in this thread. I feel kind of morally outclassed and like a party pooper even if no one of you are speaking down to me.
Naw c'mon, everyone's welcome here
Even meat eaters get B12 deficiency, but it's hard to estimate how much you were getting, so I can't really offer much advice other than a B12 supplement is erring on the safe side if you only eat animal products occasionally. If you're deficient in B12, you should start to feel better very quickly after taking it. Also, you'd be better off just eating some fruits and greens than taking a supplement of vitamin C. A single orange covers your daily vitamin C, and you'll get a lot of other good stuff, too.What the hell Greenpeace.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/wait-it-is-ok-to-wear-seal-skin-549602883956
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/wait-it-is-ok-to-wear-seal-skin-549602883956
anonymous_abc
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Dictator93
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This looks wonderful, thanks for the suggestion!
matthewwhatever
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I've been vegan for ten years now (ten years this month, in fact!), and I eat lots of soy, but for some reason soy milk is the only soy product that impacts me like this. I'd say that if you want a good milk alternative, there are plenty out there that are better options than soy -- almond-coconut is my favourite, but almond, cashew and coconut are all really good. Rice milk is alright, too, if a little sweet.
Oat milk is pretty good as well. And at least in Finland, there are tons of oat-based alternatives to dairy products (oat yoghurt, oat ice-cream, oat whipped cream, oat cream etc.).
panda-zebra
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Hazelnut and almond I'm not a fan of, same goes for the vanilla flavoured Alpro soy drink (like drinking runny custard!).
Cheapo Tesco basic soya milk is great in nutribullet with other goodies. Rice Dream/Alpro Rice make amazing porridge (oatmeal), been buying whichever is cheapest in Tesco or ASDA. For straight up drinking it's coconut every time, so refreshing after a run. On the subject on running, did my first parkrun with club set to Vegan Runners UK today, did the vest justice with a lump shaved off my PB
Cheapo Tesco basic soya milk is great in nutribullet with other goodies. Rice Dream/Alpro Rice make amazing porridge (oatmeal), been buying whichever is cheapest in Tesco or ASDA. For straight up drinking it's coconut every time, so refreshing after a run. On the subject on running, did my first parkrun with club set to Vegan Runners UK today, did the vest justice with a lump shaved off my PB
anonymous_abc
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If you're looking for a tasty treat
the Alpro Coconut Chocolate Milk is very tasty.
the Alpro Coconut Chocolate Milk is very tasty.
I prefer oat milk. Has a neutral taste that goes well with cereals.
anonymous_abc
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Otameal in oat milk sounds kind of paradoxical. Did you try it?
Yeah, it's great.
anonymous_abc
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Three months vegetarian here, made it through all the holidays relatively unscathed.
Health wise I feel... Alright. I know I could be doing better, but binge nights of beer and loaded veggie burgers and fries are taking their toll.
As far as veggies and fruits, I love them, but I continue to deal with too much spoilage, and I hate feeling like I have to shop for groceries three times a week OR have things go bad too soon (which is why I rely too much on frozen alternative meats and pita/hummus right now).
Any tips for healthier bulk eating for someone that spends the majority of their day teaching and planning? I'm down for meal Prep Sundays, but not sure what would do well lasting all week. Slow cooker or pressure cooker things would be awesome...
PS - still feeling the vegan pull, just want to be a little more responsible with my health and learning to cook first. I'm considering switching to soy/almond milk.
Do any of you guys buy bulk? I'm in the south US, and have easy access to whole food and trader Joe's. Would consider Sam's/Costcos if it would justify the costs.
Thanks!
Health wise I feel... Alright. I know I could be doing better, but binge nights of beer and loaded veggie burgers and fries are taking their toll.
As far as veggies and fruits, I love them, but I continue to deal with too much spoilage, and I hate feeling like I have to shop for groceries three times a week OR have things go bad too soon (which is why I rely too much on frozen alternative meats and pita/hummus right now).
Any tips for healthier bulk eating for someone that spends the majority of their day teaching and planning? I'm down for meal Prep Sundays, but not sure what would do well lasting all week. Slow cooker or pressure cooker things would be awesome...
PS - still feeling the vegan pull, just want to be a little more responsible with my health and learning to cook first. I'm considering switching to soy/almond milk.
Do any of you guys buy bulk? I'm in the south US, and have easy access to whole food and trader Joe's. Would consider Sam's/Costcos if it would justify the costs.
Thanks!
Is your cupboard full of the usual long-lived staples (rice, lentils, chickpeas, pasta etc.)? Also tinned sweetcorn, beans and tomatoes etc. that last an age and can be dumped into most things.
What about frozen vegetables for longevity? You can buy them pre-frozen or freeze fresh vegetables you won't use in time.
Also if you cook something bulk that can also be portioned and frozen for later.
I made some carrot and chilli soup earlier that I portioned into individual plastic bags and shoved into the freezer.
This is an easy and very tasty vegetable curry I make when I can't be arsed:
Again, if there's any left over that I won't get through I just bag it and freeze it for later.
It's too much oat for me honestly haha.
anonymous_abc
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You can do worse than have a freezer full of vegetables.
We always have stuff like spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, peas et al. in the freezer.
To supplement the already mentioned, root vegetables stay eatable for a long time. Here is the first list of food items that last 7+ days offered by google:
Beets
Cabbage
Carrots
Celery
Garlic
Hard Squash
Onions
Potatoes
Most vegetable & fruit last for longer than a week when properly stored. And they are perfectly edible even if they go a bit soft or don't look super appetizing (at that point they are best used as an ingredient in something where they are maybe mushed rather than eaten as is). One just needs to know what to keep in the fridge, what is better on the kitchen counter and what can be thrown into the freezer.
Muskieratboi
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I know this is a bit of a driveby post, but:
I'm a big Omnivore, and I'm practically Toriko in how adventurous I am with food combos and recipes. A lot of Vegan 'Alternative' foods have made their way onto my plate, and I've loved every one of them. Every food lover should have a friendly vegan cook dinner for them every now and then, it's great!
I'm a big Omnivore, and I'm practically Toriko in how adventurous I am with food combos and recipes. A lot of Vegan 'Alternative' foods have made their way onto my plate, and I've loved every one of them. Every food lover should have a friendly vegan cook dinner for them every now and then, it's great!
Cabbage is sadly one of the things that makes me super gassy, I do better with legums, but it is still a bit of an issue. But I'll overcome it I'm sure.
Got a few cousins that have been vegans for a long time, coming up on two decades and they are perfectly fine since they have been vegans since six or seven years old. Not my personal choice, I raise my chickens and pigs and kill them myself, firm believer in that simply because you appreciate it far more and it does stop you eating meat to much, plus my animals produce fertilizer, free fertilizer for my gardens and crops.
Dont eat red meat though, figured out how to make meatless meatballs years ago from my cousins and never looked back. Lots of people I know think I'm nuts for that one but when you figure out how bad red meat is for you its quite scary, sure proper bbq stuff is mouthwateringly good but I still avoid it.
Also look into traditional buddhist cooking recipes, some of them are really scary with how accurate they can make certain things taste like actual meat without any animal product being used.
Subbed the thread to, cookings a passion and I like to experiment so if I come up eith some nice recipes I will drop them in for you lot. No vegan baking though, tried that and kindly backed away from it very quickly (to traditional in that sorry).
Dont eat red meat though, figured out how to make meatless meatballs years ago from my cousins and never looked back. Lots of people I know think I'm nuts for that one but when you figure out how bad red meat is for you its quite scary, sure proper bbq stuff is mouthwateringly good but I still avoid it.
Also look into traditional buddhist cooking recipes, some of them are really scary with how accurate they can make certain things taste like actual meat without any animal product being used.
Subbed the thread to, cookings a passion and I like to experiment so if I come up eith some nice recipes I will drop them in for you lot. No vegan baking though, tried that and kindly backed away from it very quickly (to traditional in that sorry).
Thanks to ya'll and everyone else that responded, I really appreciate it.
I do have dry beans, frozen peas, rice, quinoa, and TONS of frozen broccoli/cauliflower. When I do go shopping, it's without plan or reason (maybe a dream of making stir-fry that week at the most), so I just grab it if it's veggie, but don't have a plan from there.
I guess I should look at canned stuff too, I assume prep-time for canned goods is greatly reduced (just heat and eat)?
So short term I'll stick to better meal planning BEFORE I head out, do some diligence and educate myself on proper storage, maybe print a cheat sheet, and also start freezing leftovers to prevent wasted meals.
Breaking out my "forks over knives" cookbook for tonight!
Amibguous Cad
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I know this is a bit of a driveby post, but:
I'm a big Omnivore, and I'm practically Toriko in how adventurous I am with food combos and recipes. A lot of Vegan 'Alternative' foods have made their way onto my plate, and I've loved every one of them. Every food lover should have a friendly vegan cook dinner for them every now and then, it's great!
Yeah, I agree. I particularly like vegan deserts. They tend to be more oatey and grainy and less sweet. Good for a change of pace.