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[alphachino]

You know what... There was once a time I would openly state: "Fuck Konami" and "Fuck UbiSoft"... It's high time for "Fuck Xbox".

 

[Represent.]

Your company is worth 2 TRILLION dollars you whiney ass bitch. You could buy Sony 20 times over. Im sure you can buy a few exclusives. STFU Phil

 

[Fuz]

Whiny bitch.

 

[cireza]

Then stop releasing games on PS, so Sony won't use the money to block third party games on Xbox ?

 

[acm2000]

please god someone make a court case thread and keep it up to date so we dont get a separate thread for EVERY SINGLE THING

 

[wvnative]

is 30% not the standard cut?

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

The real face of these execs is finally being shown. Phil's act of everyone being one happy family, not being in a console war, etc never sat right with me but even I started to believe him because he kept the act up so well.

My main issue with Phil isn't this hypocrisy tho. My issue is his poor decision making and constant lying. Don't get me wrong i don't like Jim Ryan either.

I have a particular bone to pick with Phil tho cause of how many promises he's breaking in terms of Series X. If you're a Series X owner who doesn't care about GamePass like myself, it's been a rough gen and it doesn't seem to be getting any better. It feels like we're being betrayed as he pivots towards all things GamePass and PC.

 

[Nydius]

How much of a revenue split does Microsoft get for sales of MLB The Show or its virtual currency via the Xbox console store, I wonder...

Betcha it's 30% like every other game on their Xbox console Store.

 

[BootsLoader]

Phil is a clown by now. He says one thing first and then in another interview he says the opposite.
Sometimes I really wonder.

 

[twilo99]

That works both ways, Phil

Yes, just like buying publishers.

 

[Topher]

Yes, just like buying publishers.

Indeed

 

[Clear]

This kinda says it all about MS' outlook.

Anything Sony does threatens them, insofar as them making money in the space they perceive as taking away from Xbox.

 

[TGO]

 

[darrylgorn]

Guys.

We really need a subforum for all of the CEO tantrums we're getting every day.

Just nothing but whiny, baby shit about how the competition is going to come to their house and eat their family.

 

[Warablo]

He was just stating why they don't ship more games on Playstation, but of course everyone is taking it as some stupid gotcha thing.

 

[Rayderism]

MS gaming division is really getting desperate, aren't they? Wah! No one's buying our system. Wah! It's all Sony's fault that we aren't releasing many games that people actually want. Wah! And if we do finally release a game, and we put on the rival platform, they get 30% (...like any other game generates on any console storefront...) Wah!

It just sounds like a spoiled little rich kid having a tantrum that everything is not fair and not their fault and pointing fingers at someone else. Wah!

 

[Js562]

This is NeoGAF everytime Microsoft and Sony gets talked about.

 

[Three]

He was just stating why they don't ship more games on Playstation, but of course everyone is taking it as some stupid gotcha thing.

If that's the case he's just admitted to buying publishers and partially foreclosing on their revenue and admitting that's his intent. That he doesn't want Sony making money from them games.

 

[Vognerful]

Hold on Phil!............. I am coming to rescue you

 

[Venom Snake]

It's the kind of excuse you might make half-conscious, dragged out of bed at four in the morning with your thumb still in your mouth.

 

[DeepEnigma]

If that's the case he's just admitted to buying publishers and partially foreclosing on their revenue and admitting that's his intent. That he doesn't want Sony making money from them games.

That 2019 EEEmail.

 

[Skifi28]

So they're not releasing games on playstation because they're afraid they will sell and Sony will use that money against them. Then they should immediately port Redfall.


Checkmate.

 

[RoadHazard]

I mean, sure, but man is he sounding like a whiny baby these days.

 

[Astray]

So what happens to the %70 they get from selling SKUs on other platforms? I assume they get reduced to ash?

 

[TLZ]

So he's saying, someone who's making money, is using that money?

 

[Three]

So what happens to the %70 they get from selling SKUs on other platforms? I assume they get reduced to ash?

Exactly, for every 30% sony makes they make more than double at 70% to "threaten PS' survival" with.

 

[Slicker than your average]

What's your take on this? O Ozriel

 

[BbMajor7th]

Gets more embarrassing by the day.

 

[Deanington]

He was just stating why they don't ship more games on Playstation, but of course everyone is taking it as some stupid gotcha thing.

Some peoples reaction to this whole thing in general, I would not be surprised if some of the comments are paid shills. Its pretty incredible the passion that gets displayed over this shit. The selling on who is right and wrong to the readers is crazy. Its not that deep in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Vol5]

Phil arguing that it's not fair Sony are running their gaming business well and have been doing so consistently for years. It's not like Sony force you to release games on their platform. What planet is this guy on, honestly.

 

[Vol5]

dp

 

[twilo99]

After hearing some bits today, it’s hard to tell if the those are FTC’s lawyers or Sony’s ..

 

[Saber]

I think he has all the right to act like a whiny idiot. The problem and something that concerns me is how the heck people still believe and applaud anything this guy says.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

WTF?

I mean at this point they are just saying whatever the fuck they want... isn't that the very foundation of the gaming business? Taking a 30% cut (royalties) off all software sold on your platform? Isn't that the very thing MS does with every third-party publisher on their platform?

like what the actual fuck...

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

This is NeoGAF everytime Microsoft and Sony gets talked about.

More like this actually

 

[newtypepilot]

xbox ships games??? wtf

 

[El Pistolero]

.....isn't this how it works?

You spared me the effort of posting the exact same thing, to the dot...

 

[Crispy Gamer]

Phil's just demonstrating why they shouldn't be the market leader this whole victimhood complex is quite sad these guys literally blame Sony for their failure. If the FTC doesn't have enough evidence that Microsoft doesn't want Sony to exist then what else do they need, that Matt Booty email is super relevant now, these guys can't wait to foreclose on Sony and they have enough money to fail another 20-30 years in order to do it. Man I wish Xbox was owned by a completely different company because I love the hardware but starting to hate the company I really don't understand how people can't see through the PR it's super obvious they want to control how the game industry operates I mean imagine having the gall to tell another company how they should be using the profits they received from doing business within that space but your company use profits from different divisions within the company to buyout the whole industry I mean wtf is going on here this sh%! is weird and it's crazy that the "games" media isn't calling it out. If Jim Ryan complained that Microsoft was using profits from COD or any 3rd party games to buy gamepass day 1 AAA and exclusives games he would get lambasted by the media something really strange is going on if they actually support this argument they seem to buy anything Phil says ....

 

[adamsapple]

.....isn't this how it works?

Yes, and his actual quote is 'that 30% and other revenue', he's not saying Sony is strategically using that 30% as a fuck you slush fund

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Yes, and his actual quote is 'that 30% and other revenue', he's not saying Sony is strategically using that 30% as a fuck you slush fund

Phil playing dumb as always.

 

[Three]

something really strange is going on if they actually support this argument they seem to buy anything Phil says ....

It's Tom Warren, so its more a case of Phil seems to buy anything they say.

 

[lh032]

what kind of argument is this?

 

[Kumomeme]

no wonder Xbox is struggling. because this kind of guy is the head of that brand.

 

[Corndog]

And MS does the same for MLB and uh I guess Destiny now.

Sony was forced to put MLB on Xbox. Destiny was already on Xbox before purchase.

 

[CircleOfFire]

Unbelievable....
Sony....

What games are they releasing on Playstation without any contract from before an acquisition binding them to do so?

 

[Corndog]

what kind of argument is this?

It’s common sense but probably pointless.

 

[Corndog]

How many actual Microsoft Game Studios games have shipped on PlayStation, Phil?

I'm not counting Deathloop or Ghostwire Tokyo.
Or, hell, you know what, I'll even count those despite them being in a gray area around the Zenimax acquisition.

Let's see... Minecraft and its spinoffs, and, uh...Psychonauts 2?

Not many other MGS games going to PlayStation that I can see, certainly not enough where the 30% industry standard profit would be enough for Sony to generate enough revenue to "block" Microsoft. As opposed to Microsoft who, upon the mere speculation that Starfield might be console or timed exclusive, spent 7 billion dollars to buy the entire fuggin' company.

You forgot the two Bethesda games. They were already contracted though.
Edit: either I misread or you edited. Ignore my post.

 

[Corndog]

Counter point. M$ are using Sony’s MLB MTX to spend $80b on studios.

Big Phil logic.

They were forced to since they don’t own the rights.

 

[TheCrowsReaper]

This absolute crying bitch of a cunt…..

 

[Three]

I'm not a lawyer so somebody more knowledgeable please let me know why the FTC lawyers didn't push them at all on these things and were asking questions that the judge was getting frustrated with.

Are questions like this considered argumentative or aggressive?

would you not get 70%?
How do competitor's storefronts threaten xbox's survival by getting 30%?
Do you participate in that practice?
Would you consider permanent removal of content from your competitors a threat to their survival?