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[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Fucking shit since it won't bitstream HD audio formats. Piece of shit.

Lets just say I'm fucking mad as hell about this since the only reason I bought this piece of trash was to play 4k films. Not only that but the RGB settings are FUCKED to all hell and the gamma curve completely destroys any dark scenes. I completely missed the goddamn intro sequence in ReCore where Joule is in the home base for the first time because the entire screen just went fucking black. Absolutely livid with this thing. For an "entertainment system" so far the games are aliased enough to cut my eyes on, the color is IMPOSSIBLE to correct for, movies don't support BASIC, nearly decade old audio formats, and the menu is a buggy, laggy, atrocious mess that's a goddamn unintuitive nightmare to navigate.

To say that I hate this system is an understatement. I hate this thing like AM hates humanity. There aren't words for it's offensiveness to common design sensibilities, or to industry standards. Every inch of me winces at this fucker's existence in my home theater cabinet. It's poison made plastic and silicon. It can royally go fuck itself.

Fam......

Keep waiting on that PS5.

I don't think this is the type of person who gives a cursory shit about the PS5, at least not for audio-visual capabilities.

Home theatre enthusiasts are serious with their shit. "Sony too" isn't gonna to work well here.

Ummmm...ok

Wait a minute. You don't think that is true? With your statement above you would think you knew exactly how it worked.

By the way? What does the UI have to do with Suspend/Resume?

I know exactly how it works because I own one. Try again.

Yes, I used UI and OS as interchangeable words in that instance.

 

[oSoLucky]

ya i think I have been through those threads about those topics already and im pretty sure they removed the sharpening filter. its just the black scale that still remains.

Yeah the sharpening filter was removed. I remember it made Dead Rising 3 look terrible. I'm getting quite a bit of black crush while playing Recore in dark cave areas. It could be that the lightning is poor, but I think it's a combination. I'm on a plasma and usually have a great picture with a good source.

On a positive note, I haven't hit this repetitive part of Recore yet and I'm having a ton of fun, and really looking forward to FH3. I really want to see it live in HDR.

 

[Shivvy_NTL]

The lag on the xbox one os is actually a real turn off, since ps4 is my primary console. But yeah just get used to it man. There's some great exclusives coming to it.

 

[Samanosuke Akechi]

I've had an S model now for about a month or more and the UI is very cluttered and runs slow from time to time. Installs also take a lot longer than PS4 and the store will frequently kick me back to the main menu at random times while I'm searching for stuff. It's an annoying console sometimes but I do enjoy my forza on there.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Better network, better ui performance. That video looks like slow network. Bad design by MS imo but it's never bothered me as my network is fast so my xbone is as well.

I do wish they would have kept the 360 ui as it was quick and easy. Changing settings for anything was way quicker. But they had to add all those advertisements into the ui which slows things down. Especially if you're on a slow network or xB live is having issues.

I'm pulling 100+ Mbps speeds and my experience is similar. That shit just laggy, mate. ESPECIALLY on that store. The rest of somewhat tolerable, but the store is an awful experience.

 

[JeffG]

I know exactly how it works because I own one. Try again.

Yes, I used UI and OS as interchangeable words in that instance.

lol

 

[Jamex RZ]

ummmm...no

Are you a Jeff Rigby convert?

What are you talking about? First, I'm just stating facts (or you're not aware the ps4 does have a low power arm CPU for suspend activities? If not, i recommend you do a little research), and second I'm asking questions, did you not see the "?" In all my sentences? Maybe that's the reason it's a little harder for it to maintain proper suspend features and needs some bug squashing?

Seriously, the console warrriorz get agitated for nothing. I have both consoles and I'm just stating tech facts and asking questions. Don't get all defensive and try practicing some reading comprehension bud.

 

[JeffG]

What are you talking about? First, I'm just stating facts (or you're not aware the ps4 does have a low power arm CPU for suspend activities? If not, i recommend you do a little research), and second I'm asking questions, did you not see the "?" In all my sentences? Maybe that's the reason it's a little harder for it to maintain proper suspend features and needs some bug squashing?

Seriously, the console warrriorz get agitated for nothing. I have both consoles and I'm just stating tech facts and asking questions. Don't get all defensive and try practicing some reading comprehension bud.

I did answer your question. Its not me with the reading comprehension problem.

 

[Jamex RZ]

Umm wat?

You sound like you're guessing. And you happen to be guessing wrong.

Again, like the other guy, I'm asking a question, could it be possible that could be a reason? Did you not see the "?" In my sentence? Im not guessing shit. I'm just asking a question. I got both consoles and I'm wondering why one can maintain proper suspension of a game and the other not.

I don't get why people get all defensive when "ps4" gets mentioned on a xbox thread. Jesus Christ, console wars are real.

 

[Jamex RZ]

I did answer your question. Its not me with the reading comprehension problem.

By being an ass and saying something like this that contributes nothing to the thread? Yeah, ok. Thanks.

Originally Posted by JeffG
ummmm...no

Are you a Jeff Rigby convert?

 

[Scapegoat]

https://youtu.be/coszQZu43ak

Here's one I just did on my One S. Notice the only section it goes slow is when I load the BC section and I'm guessing it's because it takes a while to load all of the games' covers. Everything else is super smooth, and that was waking up my Xbox One from sleep. While some people might say they have issues, mine has always been an awesome experience. Also, it was the same on my Day 1 Xbox One.

Holy shit. I have had an Xbone for about a year (solely for RB4 and exclusives) and your video couldn't be further from my experience.

My entire Xbone experience lines up with the OP. Constantly slow, sluggish UI. Instant on for games? Never worked once (game will inevitably take longer to return to responsiveness, or it responds but heavily delayed (with a game like RB4 I have to restart every, single, time). Loading ANY kind of app takes AGES. Even the settings app. I've had it sit on the settings logo for seconds... then a black screen for seconds.... and then the background and then the content finally starts loading in.

Browsing the store is a joke. Trying to load a single piece of content so you can buy it - torturous. In the vid above he enters his game library and it loads instantly - mine will take at least 10 seconds to enter before it begins to populate. If i open my RB4 DLC it will either: a) take upwards of 30 seconds to load all the files or b) crash or c) both.

Words cannot describe the terrible taste the Xbone left in my mouth, particularly after how much I loved the 360.

 

[JeffG]

By being an ass and saying something like this that contributes nothing to the thread? Yeah, ok. Thanks.

Originally Posted by JeffG
ummmm...no

Are you a Jeff Rigby convert?

Whats your contribution?

 

[opticalmace]

Whats your contribution?

Are you sure you're not JeffB?

 

[Daffy Duck]

I always thought the XB1 UI was snappy and worked well, up until recently that is and now mine is sluggish and slow like the videos you guys have posted, it's frustrating as hell trying to navigate to items such as the store.

 

[TheKeyPit]

I actually spent 20 minutes trying to find the games with gold section last week and ended up just pulling out my laptop and doing it through the browser instead :/

And that's when I leave the thread. We had one guy complaining about the the ads under My Games & Apps tab and one of those is the GOLD tab which even has GOLD in its thumbnail.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

That's a good suggestion, but I have been using google's public DNS servers for quite a while now.

I think it may be related to having a game running in the background and I never close a running game. Maybe that's why the UI has always been slow for me?

Edit:
I tried having MCC running in the background and things were still slow. I exited the game, and lol things continued to be slow. I don't know man, shit's frustrating.

Detailed net stats (5ghz wireless) for me btw:
Down: 52.99 Mbps (I have a 150Mbps connection if that matters)
Up: 11.95 Mbps
Packet loss: 0%
MTU: 1480
Latency: 15 ms
Wireless Strength: 100%

Why would network connection affect input response though? Shouldn't it still let me navigate around those empty boxes while things load?

For the million time, for those having issues go to
Settings
Network
Test multiplayer connection
When finished and given "A" prompt to exit, hold down both triggers and bumpers.

What is the status code?

^^^this is the most important information as the code can tell you exactly what the issue is. I can't seem to get people to do this.

Also, if you go offline and everything is smooth, that's a clue it's not the OS.

 

[ss_lemonade]

For the million time, for those having issues go to
Settings
Network
Test multiplayer connection
When finished and given "A" prompt to exit, hold down both triggers and bumpers.

What is the status code?

^^^this is the most important information as the code can tell you exactly what the issue is. I can't seem to get people to do this.

Also, if you go offline and everything is smooth, that's a clue it's not the OS.

I'll try that tomorrow. Also, from my limited testing earlier, things start to slow down for me "right after" I launch a game. Before running a game (like if I first boot up the xbone from a powered off state), then things run just as well as the other videos posted (not perfect, but not awful like my video). The moment I run a game, that's when the slow store behavior manifests itself. Doesn't seem to matter too if I close the running game.

 

[Head.spawn]

I actually spent 20 minutes trying to find the games with gold section last week and ended up just pulling out my laptop and doing it through the browser instead :/

Usually we have people complaining that it's right there on the first page, like an annoying ad.

Amazing.

 

[EmiPrime]

For those wondering how sluggish the xbox store can get, here's how it runs on my xbox (not slim), specifically the Backwards Compat section (but it clearly already struggles just trying to get there). Sorry for my phone constantly focusing but I wanted to get the controller in view too just to show the response times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnvjwigF_Jc&feature=youtu.be

While not in the video, there are also times when the cursor would get stuck offscreen, forcing me to exit back to the dashboard to get things moving again

That's exactly my experience and before anyone blames my Internet I have 25Mb down and

I use Ethernet, MTU of 1480, 0% PL, open NAT and around 30ms on Titanfall so it's not my connection.

Honestly it's getting tedious whenever someone has issues with this console people rush to defend it by blaming their Internet connection.

 

[GlamFM]

The XB1 OS is straight up bullshit.

Recently wanted to redeem a code - you wouldn't believe how hard that is..

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

That's exactly my experience and before anyone blames my Internet I have 25Mb down and



Honestly it's getting tedious whenever someone has issues with this console people rush to defend it by blaming their Internet connection.

Download/Upload speed is usually never the issue. There is alot more to proper network setup than that. When I know for a fact my x1 OS runs quick and snappy, have even posted a link to a video I took of it, others have said the same as well, I think it's ridiculous to always blame the xbox. 25Mb down means nothing when it comes to how snappy the dash is.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

The XB1 OS is straight up bullshit.

Recently wanted to redeem a code - you wouldn't believe how hard that is..

"Hey Cortana, Enter a code". It's like a Rubix cube, I know.

 

[Recall]

So this thread is telling me that the console is fine, any issues you come across is down to the user and their internet connection? The console itself is perfect?

In that case I don't think I have the quality internet needed.

 

[spons]

The XB1 OS is straight up bullshit.

Recently wanted to redeem a code - you wouldn't believe how hard that is..

Made a new Live account via my Xbox One not long ago and wanted to redeem a 360 code. I already wondered at the time of creation why I didn't have to enter a country of residence. Apparently, when creating a new account, it sets the region of the 360 store to Australia. I couldn't redeem shit - had to Google the error the store triggered when redeeming. It even displayed a message that Microsoft was looking into it.

Good thing you can "move" to another country every couple of months, otherwise I had to endure customer service.

 

[Head.spawn]

Made a new Live account via my Xbox One not long ago and wanted to redeem a 360 code. I already wondered at the time of creation why I didn't have to enter a country of residence. Apparently, when creating a new account, it sets the region of the 360 store to Australia. I couldn't redeem shit - had to Google the error the store triggered when redeeming. It even displayed a message that Microsoft was looking into it.

Good thing you can "move" to another country every couple of months, otherwise I had to endure customer service.

I thought you could change region anytime you wanted?

Like for instance a few months back I switched mine to Japan, bought Dark Souls III, switched back to US, downloaded it.

Or are you talking about something else?

 

[Rosvoja Torilla]

I'm no doctor but those chat and game drops sound like straight up NAT issues. What I'm interested in is doesn't Playstation have NAT issues? Or PC. People outside Xbox gaming aren't familiar with NAT settings? I've been gaming online with an Xbox for over a decade now and one of the first things I learned was to make sure your NAT is open.

 

[Ivory Samoan]

Alot of it sounds more like internet problems.

This is what I was thinking for sure, I have a One S and both those games and apart from the lackluster scaling resolution in MP, it's all good.

 

[spons]

I thought you could change region anytime you wanted?

Like for instance a few months back I switched mine to Japan, bought Dark Souls III, switched back to US, downloaded it.

Or are you talking about something else?

Nope, you can change the account region of the 360 store once every three months.

They're different stores, which is why you can redeem Games with Gold on Xbox One without a credit card or PayPal on file but you need either or both of them when redeeming 360 Games with Gold.

 

[BigLee74]

The XB1 OS is straight up bullshit.

Recently wanted to redeem a code - you wouldn't believe how hard that is..

"Hey Cortana, Enter a code". It's like a Rubix cube, I know.

Yeah. Or go to store page and there right in front of you is "use a code". Sure, it may take you...oooh...10 seconds to find it the first time, but really? Rocket science?

 

[EmiPrime]

Download/Upload speed is usually never the issue. There is alot more to proper network setup than that. When I know for a fact my x1 OS runs quick and snappy, have even posted a link to a video I took of it, others have said the same as well, I think it's ridiculous to always blame the xbox. 25Mb down means nothing when it comes to how snappy the dash is.

My network is properly setup, look at the other information I provided. The console being slow to pull some jpegs off Microsoft servers and taking forever to respond to inputs is because the OS is awful not the user's interet connection.

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

Wow even the videos of how the store can work on a fast connection make it seem sluggish and not responsive.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

My network is properly setup, look at the other information I provided. The console being slow to pull some jpegs off Microsoft servers and taking forever to respond to inputs is because the OS is awful not the user's interet connection.

How come me and alot of other users don't have the issues? Is my Xbox one special? If you go offline in network settings, does the OS run fine? Have you ran test MP, hold both bumpers and triggers, and see if you have an error in status code?
My Xbox and Internet was fine at launch as well, but I had an erroneous status code and was getting the regular latency that people in the thread speak of. I corrected the issue and my status code is clean and have almost 0 latency issues, besides a hiccup now and then being in the first waves of preview dashboard. I even use the stock internal HDD and Day 1 Xbox One system. See for yourself. If this isn't your experience, you have other issues.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgLv6KAKTxw2n8Yupl1zAhjUtQUWiA

The link is from my shared OneDrive.

 

[EmiPrime]

How come me and alot of other users don't have the issues? Is my Xbox one special? If you go offline in network settings, does the OS run fine? Have you ran test MP, hold both bumpers and triggers, and see if you have an error in status code?
My Xbox and Internet was fine at launch as well, but I had an erroneous status code and was getting the regular latency that people in the thread speak of. I corrected the issue and my status code is clean and have almost 0 latency issues, besides a hiccup now and then being in the first waves of preview dashboard. I even use the stock internal HDD and Day 1 Xbox One system. See for yourself. If this isn't your experience, you have other issues.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgLv6KAKTxw2n8Yupl1zAhjUtQUWiA

The link is from my shared OneDrive.

Sorry but the notion that my internet is the problem when I can play online on Live just fine (usually have the lowest ping) yet my connection isn't good enough to pull some thumbnails of jpegs on the store without choking and being unresponsive to controller inputs is just silly.

I'm traveling so no access to my Xbox and can't stream video.

 

[ajim]

I've got an x1 and i refuse to use some of the os functionality because of how slow it is.

Its a pain in the bum.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

Sorry but the notion that my internet is the problem when I can play online on Live just fine (usually have the lowest ping) yet my connection isn't good enough to pull some thumbnails of jpegs on the store without choking and being unresponsive to controller inputs is just silly.

I'm traveling so no access to my Xbox and can't stream video.

Sorry, but the only other option is my Xbox and the people I know are just special boxes. Which sounds more plausible? Playing online, depending on what game, wont always show the issue. And yes, the OS is mainly net based, it most certainly can slow down your controller inputs while it's loading the next screen in the store. The only issue I still see is loading some of the 360 BC game box pics. Everything else loads fine.

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

"Hey Cortana, Enter a code". It's like a Rubix cube, I know.

Except that voice commands don't reliably work. Enough so that I turned Cortana's deaf ass off and went back to the OG commands which still suck.

And yes, I've calibrated the Christ out of the Kinect. It's a shitty implementation of voice commands that pales in comparison to both Google voice and Siri (which is also shit).

 

[justsomeguy]

There was a survey about it in the preview program. Atmos support is definitely something they're strongly considering at the very least.

.

 

[GlamFM]

Yeah. Or go to store page and there right in front of you is "use a code". Sure, it may take you...oooh...10 seconds to find it the first time, but really? Rocket science?

Pretty sure I had to download a thing to be able to redeem a code.

Anyway, thanks for the condescending tone - appreciated.

 

[EmiPrime]

Sorry, but the only other option is my Xbox and the people I know are just special boxes. Which sounds more plausible? Playing online, depending on what game, wont always show the issue. And yes, the OS is mainly net based, it most certainly can slow down your controller inputs while it's loading the next screen in the store. The only issue I still see is loading some of the 360 BC game box pics. Everything else loads fine.

I'm sure some people thought the early Wii U OS was fine too but they didn't have special consoles either!

I've provided detailed diagnostic results from the Xbox and nothing suggests my connection is at fault. A web store is not demanding on anyone's internet.

 

[Head.spawn]

How come me and alot of other users don't have the issues? Is my Xbox one special? If you go offline in network settings, does the OS run fine? Have you ran test MP, hold both bumpers and triggers, and see if you have an error in status code?
My Xbox and Internet was fine at launch as well, but I had an erroneous status code and was getting the regular latency that people in the thread speak of. I corrected the issue and my status code is clean and have almost 0 latency issues, besides a hiccup now and then being in the first waves of preview dashboard. I even use the stock internal HDD and Day 1 Xbox One system. See for yourself. If this isn't your experience, you have other issues.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgLv6KAKTxw2n8Yupl1zAhjUtQUWiA

The link is from my shared OneDrive.

This is how my Xbox works.

 

[Ade]

Pretty sure I had to download a thing to be able to redeem a code.

Nope.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

Except that voice commands don't reliably work. Enough so that I turned Cortana's deaf ass off and went back to the OG commands which still suck.

And yes, I've calibrated the Christ out of the Kinect. It's a shitty implementation of voice commands that pales in comparison to both Google voice and Siri (which is also shit).

Use the chat mic instead. Or just tab over to the store and it's directly on the front page. It really doesn't get any easier.

 

[LuvOfThaGame]

I'm sure some people thought the early Wii U OS was fine too but they didn't have special consoles either!

I've provided detailed diagnostic results from the Xbox and nothing suggests my connection is at fault. A web store is not demanding on anyone's internet.

I didn't see a status code posted. It's what's most important.

 

[EmiPrime]

I didn't see a status code posted. It's what's most important.

Okay. When I'm home I'll post it

 

[17 Seconds]

either you both have had really bad luck, or you are looking for ways to be disappointed.

 

[Jumeira]

The XB1 OS is straight up bullshit.

Recently wanted to redeem a code - you wouldn't believe how hard that is..

lol, cortana, or Xbox app, store -> redeem code?

Except that voice commands don't reliably work. Enough so that I turned Cortana's deaf ass off and went back to the OG commands which still suck.

And yes, I've calibrated the Christ out of the Kinect. It's a shitty implementation of voice commands that pales in comparison to both Google voice and Siri (which is also shit).

It's a simple command, fairly easy for her to recognise.

 

[ResidentDante]

I've got an x1 and i refuse to use some of the os functionality because of how slow it is.

Its a pain in the bum.

Specifically the store or other functions?

 

[azertydu91]

How come me and alot of other users don't have the issues? Is my Xbox one special? If you go offline in network settings, does the OS run fine? Have you ran test MP, hold both bumpers and triggers, and see if you have an error in status code?
My Xbox and Internet was fine at launch as well, but I had an erroneous status code and was getting the regular latency that people in the thread speak of. I corrected the issue and my status code is clean and have almost 0 latency issues, besides a hiccup now and then being in the first waves of preview dashboard. I even use the stock internal HDD and Day 1 Xbox One system. See for yourself. If this isn't your experience, you have other issues.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AgLv6KAKTxw2n8Yupl1zAhjUtQUWiA

The link is from my shared OneDrive.

Well think of it that way , remember the crazy amount of xbox 360 that had the rrod in the first two years?
That's normal between 30 and almost 70% of produced unit were defective then if your launch 360 still works you might think some people have exagerated their problems but in fact you just have a non defective model unlike some ( maybe a lot in this case).

As for the sluggish xbox one's what's important is to determine if it's a minority or not, if not you are the exception, in the other case they are ,and if the numbers are balanced then you have a 50% chance of having a good unit or a bad one.

 

[SmokinGunZ1981]

Sitting here watching football and decided to record how it does in the middle of doing this. Here you go. Nothing annoying here..at least...that I see. I mean, unless like less than half a second (1/4 second/1/8th/10th/..hahanot actually timing it) or faster bothers you. The "slowest" part of the video is the snap apps appearing, but it's literally a very short time, and snapping the football game was fast. If I used Kinect I could have even said "Xbox Snap TV" and it would have done it instantly, no need to do it from that menu, but even the menu wasn't bad to use and I wanted to try it with a controller for once. The snapped TV (football game) runs fine too. Everything switched, navigated, even looked at my games, apps, and the store/tab section. Seems fine to me? No?

Granted I didn't test everything, but just switched through what I might do on a regular interaction. I like to snap sports and play Horizon.

This is OG X1 too, my time with the S seemed quicker this weekend. Maybe I have a freak X1, lol.

(forgive me for holding the controller right next to the microphone..haha..and my daughter coughing at the beginning X-D)

https://youtu.be/yjkz_nooqWc <--- My UI video.


Not saying people don't have problems, just showing my own interaction

My xbox performs very similar to the above video, but I have a friend that did nothing but moan about the performance of his system. I was at his place one night and he showed me just how slow it was running. It was very similar to some of the earlier videos posted in this thread where there was a delay on input and the store etc took ages to load.

Anyway I suggested he bring it to my house and we'd test it on my network, it was like Night and Day. The delay was gone the OS was snappy it was like a different console to him.

I'm not sure how he got it resolved but he did, I've messaged him so when he replies i'll post what he did to get it resolved.

 

[ViolentP]

Sitting here watching football and decided to record how it does in the middle of doing this. Here you go. Nothing annoying here..at least...that I see. I mean, unless like less than half a second (1/4 second/1/8th/10th/..hahanot actually timing it) or faster bothers you. The "slowest" part of the video is the snap apps appearing, but it's literally a very short time, and snapping the football game was fast. If I used Kinect I could have even said "Xbox Snap TV" and it would have done it instantly, no need to do it from that menu, but even the menu wasn't bad to use and I wanted to try it with a controller for once. The snapped TV (football game) runs fine too. Everything switched, navigated, even looked at my games, apps, and the store/tab section. Seems fine to me? No?

Granted I didn't test everything, but just switched through what I might do on a regular interaction. I like to snap sports and play Horizon.

This is OG X1 too, my time with the S seemed quicker this weekend. Maybe I have a freak X1, lol.

(forgive me for holding the controller right next to the microphone..haha..and my daughter coughing at the beginning X-D)

https://youtu.be/yjkz_nooqWc <--- My UI video.


Not saying people don't have problems, just showing my own interaction

Mine certainly doesn't perform this way.