That's a patent for a "BC module".
The Xbox Mini is supposedly a full standalone console.
They are either both BC or they are both not. Just wanted to know which he thought it was.
That's a patent for a "BC module".
The Xbox Mini is supposedly a full standalone console.
All the more reason for me to just keep my current 360 when I get a 720.
Wasn't he just commenting on what is a pretty ridiculous reaction that people have had to what is ultimately a networked technology product? He never said that it was going to happen, just that it was a stupid thing to complain about.
yep. Like I said earlier. Brilliant move. Options are good.
If you own a 360, then there's no issue. If you don't, you have the option for BC.
Then there's folks like me who will sell a regular 360 to get the trim version.
Disagree completely.
If you're a new customer to Microsoft's platform, and you wish to play the Xbox 360's library, you're given the choice to purchase a peripheral to make that a possibility. If you're a current Xbox 360 owner and you don't want the cost of backwards compatability forced onto you, then you're taken care of since it's an optional purchase. If you're a current Xbox 360 owner and you wish to consolidate your Durango and Xbox 360, then you're free to do so by purchasing the add-on.
This is a great move by Microsoft. Backwards compatibility is not important to everyone, and it's unfair to force these people to pay for the additional hardware required to make backwards compatibility a reality. At this point, it's optional which is by far the best move they could have made.
Durango is rumored to be playable offline.
The rumor states that:
- Durango has no system-level used game restrictions
- Durango has no system-level always-online restrictions
- 360 Mini connected to Durango enables disc-based "BC" using Durango's disc drive
- 360 Mini by itself requires online to get content since has no drive, unclear if always-online required for general use (I think unlikely)
- Kinect 2.0 not a focus for Microsoft
- Kinect 2.0 not required to be plugged in
How do you propose any developer test offline code if they can never be offline?
GTFO!
after all that...
People actually believe this shit?
Companies don't CARE about you playing your old games, or people having access to an old library. Only money.
BC stops people buying new games and boosts the pre-owned market, from which MS wont see a penny.
And why would they dilute the message of next gen by including "apple TV" features when the new Xbox, hell even the old one, has them already?
Because dev kits aren't "always-online".Guys, if the Dev Kits require always online, then so will the final units being sold at stores.
How do you propose any developer test offline code if they can never be offline?
Guys, if the Dev Kits require always online, then so will the final units being sold at stores.
How do you propose any developer test offline code if they can never be offline?
Yea, typical GAF shenanigans of making a mountain out of an ant hill.
You mean like this thread?
The author uses the word "network" in two different ways. In the part you were referring to, the author was talking about Kinect 2.0 being "networked" with the Durango.
Disagree completely.
If you're a new customer to Microsoft's platform, and you wish to play the Xbox 360's library, you're given the choice to purchase a peripheral to make that a possibility. If you're a current Xbox 360 owner and you don't want the cost of backwards compatability forced onto you, then you're taken care of since it's an optional purchase. If you're a current Xbox 360 owner and you wish to consolidate your Durango and Xbox 360, then you're free to do so by purchasing the add-on.
This is a great move by Microsoft. Backwards compatibility is not important to everyone, and it's unfair to force these people to pay for the additional hardware required to make backwards compatibility a reality. At this point, it's optional which is by far the best move they could have made.
You don't even need a Durango at that point. It's the same as buying a new XBOX360.
Which is strange. The guy doesn't seem to understand technical terminology or usage at all.
People actually believe this shit?
Companies don't CARE about you playing your old games, or people having access to an old library. Only money.
BC stops people buying new games and boosts the pre-owned market, from which MS wont see a penny.
You don't even need a Durango at that point. It's the same as buying a new XBOX360.
Wouldn't it be around the size of an apple tv if that's what they're competing with?
Why buy the 360 if you can buy the mini and have access to the updated streaming functionality.
Doesn't make any sense. Its like they're overcompensating. This add on not sure where its road leads.
i like xbox mini, but i hope they include DVD drive in it so people can play dvd media games...
Oh come ON.
All spectacularly convenient, and completely against months of multiple leaks saying otherwise.
i like xbox mini, but i hope they include DVD drive in it so people can play dvd media games... Download-only did not work with that PSP Go! thingy.
All the "TV" stuff is already in, nothing new, basically just new version of Xbox for cheaper, when 720 comes out.
Oh come ON.
All spectacularly convenient, and completely against months of multiple leaks saying otherwise.
Isn't that called a an Xbox 360?
The Kinect 2.0 is not a primary focus bit is the biggest thing working against this rumour, same with it not being required to be plugged in.The rumor states that:
- Durango has no system-level used game restrictions
- Durango has no system-level always-online restrictions
- 360 Mini connected to Durango enables disc-based "BC" using Durango's disc drive
- 360 Mini by itself requires online to get content since has no drive, unclear if always-online required for general use (I think unlikely)
- Kinect 2.0 not a focus for Microsoft
- Kinect 2.0 not required to be plugged in
The rumor states that:
- Durango has no system-level used game restrictions
- Durango has no system-level always-online restrictions
- 360 Mini connected to Durango enables disc-based "BC" using Durango's disc drive
- 360 Mini by itself requires online to get content since has no drive, unclear if always-online required for general use (I think unlikely)
- Kinect 2.0 not a focus for Microsoft
- Kinect 2.0 not required to be plugged in
So all the outrage was for nothing?
There are also multiple leaks that support some of these claims (I'm sure I'm forgetting some as well):
- SuperDAE said Durango won't require online
- that Microsoft China employee was laughing at NeoGAF a few weeks back for totally misinterpreting a Durango leak
- another insider (I forget who) recently mentioned that there was "nothing offensive" about Durango
There's also the fact that the internet has pretty much raged on Microsoft for like the last few months. And there's the SimCity launch debacle. They can't have ignored these things.
Maybe the outrage resulted in this? Inception.gifSo all the outrage was for nothing?
Biggest concern that makes me think this rumor is false is the kinect.
MS not requiring kinect does not fit with the message they have been pushing these last 2-3 years. Kinect is going to be integral.
It's going to be in the box for everyone, who is going to get their new xbox and refuse to plug it in?
Who do I believe?
Hmm...The rumor states that:
- Durango has no system-level used game restrictions
- Durango has no system-level always-online restrictions
- 360 Mini connected to Durango enables disc-based "BC" using Durango's disc drive
- 360 Mini by itself requires online to get content since has no drive, unclear if always-online required for general use (I think unlikely)
- Kinect 2.0 not a focus for Microsoft
- Kinect 2.0 not required to be plugged in