VideoCardz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 reviews go live January 24, RTX 5080 on January 30
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Safe to assume DLSS 4 comes out the same day? Can't wait to try that thing.
Hohenheim
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No matter what these reviews say, the only thing that's 100% certain is:
Lots of salty comments on NeoGaf about how silly and stupid people are for buying the 5090, followed by how the ps5 pro is a lot better value.
Then there will be quite a few hot responses to that, and the wheel of never ending pain and misery will continue to roll into the sunset.
You heard it here first!
Lots of salty comments on NeoGaf about how silly and stupid people are for buying the 5090, followed by how the ps5 pro is a lot better value.
Then there will be quite a few hot responses to that, and the wheel of never ending pain and misery will continue to roll into the sunset.
You heard it here first!
HeisenbergFX4
Member
At least the 5090 reviews will be live well before it launches
The 5080 reviews going live day of launch is concerning
llien
Banned
Wait, no review date for 5070 yet?
Although, we already know it, right, I mean, it's basically 4090...
Although, we already know it, right, I mean, it's basically 4090...
When nobody calls you out for it, you go self-flagellation mode, or is it something else? )))
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And you wrote this stupid fanfiction two weeks in advance. Talking about saltyNo matter what these reviews say, the only thing that's 100% certain is:
Lots of salty comments on NeoGaf about how silly and stupid people are for buying the 5090, followed by how the ps5 pro is a lot better value.
Then there will be quite a few hot responses to that, and the wheel of never ending pain and misery will continue to roll into the sunset.
You heard it here first!
llien
Banned
+30% beef, higher clocks, higher TDP.
Of entire 5000 lineup, the 5090 is the best position vs last gen.
And a lot of eye rolling from people like me that have actually taken econ 101 and get subjective theory of value. (Yeah, way too many people think labor theory of value makes sense.)
Topher
Identifies as young
No matter what these reviews say, the only thing that's 100% certain is:
Lots of salty comments on NeoGaf about how silly and stupid people are for buying the 5090, followed by how the ps5 pro is a lot better value.
Then there will be quite a few hot responses to that, and the wheel of never ending pain and misery will continue to roll into the sunset.
You heard it here first!
You mean there is going to be console vs PC debate about this?
Makoto-Yuki
Banned
to that i will add:No matter what these reviews say, the only thing that's 100% certain is:
Lots of salty comments on NeoGaf about how silly and stupid people are for buying the 5090, followed by how the ps5 pro is a lot better value.
Then there will be quite a few hot responses to that, and the wheel of never ending pain and misery will continue to roll into the sunset.
You heard it here first!
PS5 Pro = 16.7TFlops
5090 = 104.8TFlops
of course TF is meaningless now. AI is obviously where GPUs are heading. but still...a 5090 has TWICE the RAM of a PS5 Pro. Most people are moving to 32GB RAM so that'd be a total of 64GB RAM across the system. 4x that of a PS5 Pro.
My PC once I add in a 5090 will have 96GB total. 6x that of a PS5 Pro.
There is no way a console will come near the 5090 lol. Not even next gen.
Topher
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When has it ever been the case that consoles "come close" to the most expensive, top of the line GPU on the market?
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Only until the PS6 or 7 comes out with framegen. Then that tech will be the second coming of Christ.No matter what these reviews say, the only thing that's 100% certain is:
Lots of salty comments on NeoGaf about how silly and stupid people are for buying the 5090, followed by how the ps5 pro is a lot better value.
Then there will be quite a few hot responses to that, and the wheel of never ending pain and misery will continue to roll into the sunset.
You heard it here first!
Apparently, not that long ago.
Analysis - PS5 Pro/PSSR Appears to Provide Better Image Reconstruction than DLSS Running on a 4090 GPU
I was curious and went looking back on DF comparisons of PS5 resolution/fidelity modes with a 4090 DLAA max settings, and preliminary comparison suggests to me that PSSR is potentially a vastly superior solution. I gathered the limited samples from today's Cerny tech talk where base PS5 fidelity...
Topher
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Apparently, not that long ago.
Analysis - PS5 Pro/PSSR Appears to Provide Better Image Reconstruction than DLSS Running on a 4090 GPU
I was curious and went looking back on DF comparisons of PS5 resolution/fidelity modes with a 4090 DLAA max settings, and preliminary comparison suggests to me that PSSR is potentially a vastly superior solution. I gathered the limited samples from today's Cerny tech talk where base PS5 fidelity...www.neogaf.com
That thread is comparing PS5 Pro teraflops to a 4090?
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
It was a joke, man.That thread is comparing PS5 Pro teraflops to a 4090?
Just like that thread was.
CompleteGlobalSaturation
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Hohenheim
Member
Aggresive and straight to the core. This thread is gonna be another banger for the ages.
Also, I think my fan fiction was quite beautiful and poetic!
Btw, I have a PS5 Pro and will get a 5090, so i'm not sure if salty is the best way to describe me.
I'd prefer "excited and in love with gaming and all its awesome stuff"
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Topher
Identifies as young
It was a joke, man.
Just like that thread was.
I think that thread broke some people. Was ill-advised at best.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Consoles have never been there to compete with the highest end PCs or even the PC high end generally. I imagine very few people here will expect the next generation of consoles to have raster performance similar to a 4090, let alone a 5090.to that i will add:
PS5 Pro = 16.7TFlops
5090 = 104.8TFlops
of course TF is meaningless now. AI is obviously where GPUs are heading. but still...a 5090 has TWICE the RAM of a PS5 Pro. Most people are moving to 32GB RAM so that'd be a total of 64GB RAM across the system. 4x that of a PS5 Pro.
My PC once I add in a 5090 will have 96GB total. 6x that of a PS5 Pro.
There is no way a console will come near the 5090 lol. Not even next gen.
Weird post, something I'd expect to hear in a school playground.
llien
Banned
Ah. oh, doh.
Take a seat.
PS5 Pro, TFLOPS:
FP16 (half) 72.19 TFLOPS
Sauce (TPU).
4080 (yeah, not 4090, why did you even bring in $2000 card, you dumdum... still, this is a $1200 MSRP card)
FP16 (half) 48.74 TFLOPS
Sauce (still TPU eh?)
So, you were sayin'?
Oh. NVM.It was a joke, man.
PS5 Pro TFLOPS > 4080 TFLOPS is not a joke though.
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Bojji
Member
Ah. oh, doh.
Take a seat.
PS5 Pro, TFLOPS:
FP16 (half) 72.19 TFLOPS
Sauce (TPU).
4080 (yeah, not 4090, why did you even bring in $2000 card, you dumdum... still, this is a $1200 MSRP card)
FP16 (half) 48.74 TFLOPS
Sauce (still TPU eh?)
So, you were sayin'?
Oh. NVM.
PS5 Pro TFLOPS > 4080 TFLOPS is not a joke though.
TPU has wrong specs. Pro doesn't have dual issue:
HeisenbergFX4
Member
So 2 points even in TPU you linked at the bottom of the page it saysAh. oh, doh.
Take a seat.
PS5 Pro, TFLOPS:
FP16 (half) 72.19 TFLOPS
Sauce (TPU).
4080 (yeah, not 4090, why did you even bring in $2000 card, you dumdum... still, this is a $1200 MSRP card)
FP16 (half) 48.74 TFLOPS
Sauce (still TPU eh?)
So, you were sayin'?
Oh. NVM.
PS5 Pro TFLOPS > 4080 TFLOPS is not a joke though.
Which granted I don't understand this stuff but even Cerny said this in his tech talk on the Pro
Zathalus
Member
You're comparing apples to oranges there. FP16 for the Pro is only available for specific simpler instructions used for ML. FP16 for the 4080 is for everything, as it is 1:1 with FP32. FP16 can leverage Tensor cores for ML instructions as with the 4080, and that is the same x4 multiplier the Pro had over FP32, so for the 4080 that number would be 195 TFLOPs.Ah. oh, doh.
Take a seat.
PS5 Pro, TFLOPS:
FP16 (half) 72.19 TFLOPS
Sauce (TPU).
4080 (yeah, not 4090, why did you even bring in $2000 card, you dumdum... still, this is a $1200 MSRP card)
FP16 (half) 48.74 TFLOPS
Sauce (still TPU eh?)
So, you were sayin'?
Oh. NVM.
PS5 Pro TFLOPS > 4080 TFLOPS is not a joke though.
From the 27:58 mark on:
The FP16 Tensor numbers for the 4000 series:
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Looks like, in the end, you were the joke.
Kenpachii
Member
Starting to feel the same
llien
Banned
So 2 points even in TPU you linked at the bottom of the page it says
Which granted I don't understand this stuff but even Cerny said this in his tech talk on the Pro
Yeah, let's learn something from this exchange, shall we.
TFLOPS is tera flops, where "flops" is "floating point operations".
GPUs support floating point operations with numbers of a different precision (length).
FP16 (half) 72.19 TFLOPS - stands for specific 16 bit (FP16) which is "half" as in "half precision" from FP32 (well, 32 bit, or simply "float" in many prog. languages) and then we also have "double precision" (or simply "double" in many programming languages) with, you'd guess it, 64 bit. (there is also "extended double" with 80 bit, but I don't think GPUs support that)
It's been a while that GPUs support more than one and hence, stating just "tflops" without specifying which floating point numbers are meant, is rather inaccurate.
There is no good reason to doubt TPU's FP16 figures. And yes, those are absolutely legit TFs.
Is it butthurt? I hope this isn't butthurt...Looks like, in the end, you were the joke.
))I have 5 consoles and 4 "PC-ish" gaming devices at home, so feel free to guess which "team" I am from.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
And he gets it wrong again lmao.Yeah, let's learn something from this exchange, shall we.
TFLOPS is terra flops, where "flops" is "floating point operations".
GPUs support floating point operations with numbers of a different precision (length).
FP16 (half) 72.19 TFLOPS - stands for specific 16 bit (FP16) which is "half" as in "half precision" from FP32 (well, 32 bit, or simply "float" in many prog. languages) and then w also have "double precision" (or simply "double" in many programming languages) with, you'd guess it, 64 bit. (there is also "extended double" with 80 bit, but I don't thing GPUs support that)
It's been a while that GPUs support more than one and hence, stating just "tflops" without specifying which floating point numbers are meant, is rather inaccurate.
There is no good reason to doubt TPU's FP16 figures. And yes, those are absolutely legit TFs.
Is it butthurt? I hope this isn't butthurt...
I have 5 consoles and 4 "PC-ish" gaming devices at home, so feel free to guess which "team" I am from.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Schmendrick
Member
That the 5080 reviews are held back until after people can buy it sounds fishy as hell, especially since the raw hardware numbers look like close to zero uplift compared to the predecessor (aside from MFG capability).
My guess at this point is that we`ll get barely any uplift in raw performance.
My guess at this point is that we`ll get barely any uplift in raw performance.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Apparently, it's due to a problem with the BIOS.
OverHeat
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You win this thread booom headshot
llien
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Corporal.Hicks
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My RTX4080S is OC'ed to 59.9TF and 820GB/s memory bandwidth, so I will be not surprised if stock RTX5080 will be a little bit slower. Of course, the RTX5080 can also be OC'ed, but I think it's the least impressive performance jump from generation to generation since I started gaming on PCs in 1999.
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Schmendrick
Member
I read about that buuuuuut it still leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
The whole MFG comparison bullshit from NVIDIA`s PR slides bundled with the anemic raw numbers increase (aside from the 5090 ofc) this gen just doesn`t instill confidence in me.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
You're shown the number with Cerny. He's quoting FP32 performance, not FP16 which the regular PS5 has 20.58 of. The PS5 Pro doesn't have 72 TFLOPs of FP16 performance. It has 33.4. The 4080 is still 45% faster there.
Nice attempt at irony, but you just exposed yourself for being even more of a clown than we were led to believe. Time to go back to the psychiatrist and ask for better meds.
Kilau
Gold Member
27% hmm. I did got with a 1200W PSU but I don't plan on overclocking.
PeteBull
Member
This dude trying to impress us with ps5pr0 tflop numbers, when we know ps5pr0 isnt even as strong as 500$ rtx 4070, which is still 2x weaker from 4090.
So tldr:
ps5+ 40%=ps5pr0
ps5+50%= 4070
3x ps5= 4090
Likely prediction/guess 4x ps5=5090
And that is all raw performance, before rt capabilities, dlss/framegen etc
ps5pr0 is so badly priced vs 5090 that its actually better roi to go for 5090 in terms of price/perf, and we talking w/o discdrive, add to that discrive, that to this day is marked up in my country to well over 200$ and u get extremly terrible value with the pr0, sony fucked it up hard.
So tldr:
ps5+ 40%=ps5pr0
ps5+50%= 4070
3x ps5= 4090
Likely prediction/guess 4x ps5=5090
And that is all raw performance, before rt capabilities, dlss/framegen etc
ps5pr0 is so badly priced vs 5090 that its actually better roi to go for 5090 in terms of price/perf, and we talking w/o discdrive, add to that discrive, that to this day is marked up in my country to well over 200$ and u get extremly terrible value with the pr0, sony fucked it up hard.
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
There's not a game that will ever be developed with this target in mind either for the next two decades
James Sawyer Ford
Banned
This dude trying to impress us with ps5pr0 tflop numbers, when we know ps5pr0 isnt even as strong as 500$ rtx 4070, which is still 2x weaker from 4090.
So tldr:
ps5+ 40%=ps5pr0
ps5+50%= 4070
3x ps5= 4090
Likely prediction/guess 4x ps5=5090
And that is all raw performance, before rt capabilities, dlss/framegen etc
ps5pr0 is so badly priced vs 5090 that its actually better roi to go for 5090 in terms of price/perf, and we talking w/o discdrive, add to that discrive, that to this day is marked up in my country to well over 200$ and u get extremly terrible value with the pr0, sony fucked it up hard.
5090 is like 20% more performant than the 4090
It's hilarious you are arguing over value with this in mind on a $2000 gpu.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The 4070 is more than 50% faster than the regular PS5. It's closer to ~70%. A tad below the ~80% of the 3080.This dude trying to impress us with ps5pr0 tflop numbers, when we know ps5pr0 isnt even as strong as 500$ rtx 4070, which is still 2x weaker from 4090.
So tldr:
ps5+ 40%=ps5pr0
ps5+50%= 4070
3x ps5= 4090
Likely prediction/guess 4x ps5=5090
And that is all raw performance, before rt capabilities, dlss/framegen etc
ps5pr0 is so badly priced vs 5090 that its actually better roi to go for 5090 in terms of price/perf, and we talking w/o discdrive, add to that discrive, that to this day is marked up in my country to well over 200$ and u get extremly terrible value with the pr0, sony fucked it up hard.
*4090. And it's likely around 30% give or take 5%.
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N0S
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Indeed. Cut the Pro shit.
llien
Banned
Oh, you retards.
Don't your octopus brains remember how high the TFLOP figures were for CGN cards vs competitor?
GPU performance is more nuanced than just TFLOPs.
But when citing TFLOPS, at least do it right.
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PeteBull
Member
U would think 4070 is 70% faster, but nope, if we talking raster, just look at it:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Specs
NVIDIA TU104, 1710 MHz, 2944 Cores, 184 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 1750 MHz, 256 bit
4090 is at least 3x stronger, 5090 likely gonna be 4x stronger
Ofc some games it will be bit more, some bit less, especially if we count in rt performance, at which ps5 is simply super terrible, but raw raster, ballpark ps5 is around 2080/4060/7600, definitely below 6700xt obviously.
We gotta remember both ps5 and even the pr0 got pretty terrible cpu(pr0 has 10% higher clock but its same old zen2 cpu) so in many games fps is simply cpu bottlenecked, and hard, especially in the performance modes in cpu heavy scenarios.
AMD Radeon RX 6700 Specs
AMD Navi 22, 2450 MHz, 2304 Cores, 144 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 10240 MB GDDR6, 2000 MHz, 160 bit