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manfestival

Member
I'm about two thirds of the way through Fulgrim. All I could think about was how incredible the Horus Heresy saga would be if it were produced by HBO. I bet it would be several times more expensive than Game of Thrones.

I need to see two Primarchs share their moments as brothers and then have to fight each other on the battlefield. Horus vs Sanguinus and Fulgrim vs Ferrus could make me cry.
I always thought myself that they could probably make a series and call it "the primarchs". It would fit with typical tv show branding and the stories themselves are strong individually
 
RIP Alan Bligh
Today, we regretfully bring you some sad news. Alan Bligh, the lead writer on the Horus Heresy games, has passed away. Alan was not only a valuable member of the Games Workshop family but a great human being. He was a talented writer, a dear friend and a supportive colleague. Our thoughts go out to Alan’s family and loved ones. We will all miss him dearly.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/27/alan-bligh/
 

Geist-

Member
They can't have sex though, so HBO wouldn't touch it sadly.

Edit: or do primarchs have all their bits, and it's just regular Astarte?
Pretty sure they all still have their bits, Space Marines just take after celibate monks. Primarchs probably don't have to be celibate, but they're also 12-15ft tall, and GW decided they didn't want to have to deal with the logistics.

Honestly, it probably has more to do with GW and Black Library just being extremely squeamish about any mention of sex, which is weird to me since Slaanesh has always been a thing.

RIP
 
More Redemptor Dread pics!
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Some Warhammer Fest cosplay:
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That's a good sign. I was worried gravis would be the new Terminator armour. I'd hate to see that design get phased out, even more so than the old Power armour.

Back when they previewed the rules for the captain in gravis armour they said they were different.

While lacking some of the impenetrable defence against small arms fire that Terminator armour brings, it makes up for that with an increased Toughness, meaning even heavy weaponry will struggle to bring him down easily.

Doubt we'll be seeing any numarines in TDA for a while though.
 

Nazo

Member
It's nice that were getting dreadnoughts with legs that look like they would actually work, that isn't a Contemptor.
 
The Ultima Founding:
In the wake of the Gathering Storm, the scattered Space Marine Chapters of the galaxy have been bled dry. Facing gigantic Warp storms that swallow whole systems, constant attack by the forces of Chaos, rampaging xenos and more, the Adeptus Astartes are stretched thinner than ever. Many Chapter Planets are now actively under siege, some Chapters are confirmed as destroyed* or lost, and even those faring relatively well have suffered high casualties and are in desperate need of reinforcement.

Enter Roboute Guilliman and his Primaris Space Marines. The newly reinstated Lord Commander of the Imperium has decreed that those Chapters most devastated by the ongoing wars should be amongst the first to be reinforced with this new breed of warrior. Starting with the Ultramarines, but also deploying these new Space Marines to every other Chapter in need, Guilliman aims to reinforce the Imperium’s scattered defenders across the galaxy.

It is not just as reinforcements to existing Chapters though. Guilliman has also ordered the creation of a host of new Chapters, the Ultima Founding, composed entirely of Primaris Space Marines. The warriors of these new Chapters were created entirely using the new processes discovered by Belisarius Cawl and established with all the necessary weapons, armour and equipment that they’ll need to conduct their defence of the Imperium.

These Chapter’s still trace their genetic lineage back to the gene-seed of the First Founding, and scions of all nine loyalists Legions emerged from the vaults beneath the red planet. They benefit from three additional organs and larger size, but it still remains to be seen if Cawl was able to successfully stabilise any of the known genetic deviations or impart any additional resistance to the effects of Chaos.

Many of these new Chapters have been assigned home worlds on the edge of the Great Rift, the Imperium’s new frontline in the war against Chaos, though some have inherited the empty Fortress Monasteries of Chapters that had been lost to the attrition of constant war. Many of these worlds face a continuous battle against the Daemons of the Warp, as well as an unpredictable mix of xenos raiders, pirates and invaders.

If you are looking for an excuse to embark on a Space Marine army come the new edition, this is it.

Here’s a page from the upcoming Warhammer 40,000 book, showing off not only how those new Primaris Space Marines look in the colours of some familiar Chapters, but also showing off few whole new ones:

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*Don’t worry – none of the big ones, though Magnus gave it a pretty good go at Fenris…
https://www.warhammer-community.com...-the-ultima-founding-may29gw-homepage-post-4/
 
I'm honestly wondering if GW will ever make more baby marines, or if that line is now fading towards legacy status.

Yea this is just a way for them to phase out the old marine figs. In an edition or two of 40k, they no longer will be considered "special" marines, but the new standard marine
 
Faction Focus: Space Marines - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/29/warhammer-40000-faction-focus-space-marines/

In the new edition of Warhammer 40,000, Space Marine players will have a wealth of options for how they assemble their force. While this may mean that the builds that are currently most popular may no longer be the most efficient, it means that you can look again at the massive range of Space Marine units available, and know that all of them can find a place in your army.

Let's start with the Centurions since these guys have been very popular since their release. They get the Centurion missile launcher, which is D3 shots at Strength 8, AP -2, which do D3 damage. They can also take two lascannons. which means these guys are terrifying against high Toughness, high Wound models. Now if hordes are what you fear, don't worry, they can still take two heavy bolters and hurricane bolters, dishing out loads of shots every turn. These models will be extremely hard to kill with their 2+ save and 3 Wounds. And, be sure to keep an Apothecary nearby to keep these guys alive and kicking.

But, what about the question everyone has on their minds? What about grav cannons? The weapons that single-handedly changed the game in the current Warhammer 40,000? Well, I am very happy to say that grav weapons are still good, but have been mercifully toned down to a much more reasonable weapon. They now no longer relegate so many units in the game to being relatively poor choices, but they still pack a nasty punch for those of you that have these models in your collections.

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Next up, let's talk a bit about Predators. Predators haven't been seeing much play in quite a long while. As noted above, with the abundance of grav weapons on the tables, being a vehicle was a hindrance. Luckily that is no longer the case. Predators are powerful, able to carry 4 lascannons into battle while being Toughness 7 with 11 Wounds – this vehicle is now a very scary unit. The Predator will be in your backfield raining death upon transports and elite units alike. Or, load them up with the Predator autocannon and heavy bolters, or a mix of any of those choices, as you can fire every weapon at a different target! Make sure to get these bad boys a new paint job in honour of the new edition and make some room in those army cases, cause Predators are back!

How about we talk a little bit about the famous Primarch that just came back, Roboute Guilliman? We've all seen his stats and he looks like a beast with his 9 Wounds and 6 Attacks. His gun also is good, being Rapid Fire 3, giving him 6 shots at half range. It is also Strength 6, AP -1 and does 2 Damage per shot – essentially an auto cannon with more shots on a platform that hits on 2s and is hard as nails to kill. He also wields the Emperor's own sword which gives him +2 Strength and slices up enemy armour with AP -4 and 3 Damage per swing. Plus on the wound roll of a 6+, the weapon does an additional D3 mortal wounds...ouch! This guy can kill most things in the game by himself.

His new armor is pretty awesome as well, giving him a 3+ invulnerable save and allowing him to get back up of a 4+ the first time he dies. Good luck killing Roboute. He cannot have anything else going for him could he? Well, he also gives all Ultramarines within 6" of him the ability to re-roll hits and wounds. That is magnificently powerful. Guilliman is a warrior straight out of legend and will be seen on many a tabletop.

Lastly, let's talk about the iconic Space Marine Dreadnaughts. These machines, unfortunately, have been outpaced by other units for a while now, but that is all about to change. Dreadnoughts in the new edition are Toughness 7 with 8 Wounds, which makes them a lot more resilient than before. They also have 4 Attacks that are Strength 12, AP -3 and 3 Damage each, which will put a serious hurt on any target. Their heavy flamer is excellent for overwatch and killing hordes, and the heavy weapons they can take make them scary at range as well. I anticipate a lot of twin lascannon equipped Dreadnaughts in the near (far?) future.

Dreadnaughts are no longer pushovers, and they can be scary in close combat and in shooting. Like all vehicles, they no longer have to worry about the punishing damage table rendering them worthless due to immobilisation, etc. It is a good day to be a Dreadnought...you know, despite having to be horribly injured and stuck in a walking sarcophagus.

Overall Space Marines are a very versatile army and will play more closely to their lore without the free points and character bombs. I hope you are all ready to retake the galaxy for mankind!
 

Xis

Member
"These Chapter’s still trace their genetic lineage back to the gene-seed of the First Founding, and scions of all nine loyalists Legions emerged from the vaults beneath the red planet. "

Does this mean new successors for all nine original legions (including Space Wolves?).
 
"These Chapter’s still trace their genetic lineage back to the gene-seed of the First Founding, and scions of all nine loyalists Legions emerged from the vaults beneath the red planet. "

Does this mean new successors for all nine original legions (including Space Wolves?).

Yes and maybe.
 
Warhammer Fest was cool but we didn't stick around very long. Saw the dealers area, looked at the Golden Demon entries (the lighting was a bit crap, tbh, couldn't really see the best of the minis because the shadows from above were pretty harsh), etc.

We left at lunchtime to go get a pub lunch. No regrets.
 
Warhammer Fest was cool but we didn't stick around very long. Saw the dealers area, looked at the Golden Demon entries (the lighting was a bit crap, tbh, couldn't really see the best of the minis because the shadows from above were pretty harsh), etc.

We left at lunchtime to go get a pub lunch. No regrets.

How does it compare to Games Day? I think it was 2007 I went to, met up with peeps from Warseer, had a full day out of my ticket.
 
Maybe not appropriate thread, but does anyone here have any old armies they are looking to ditch cheapish? I keep hesitating to get into this, and am continually intimidated by simply having to build the models and paint them.
 
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