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"We don't tip black people" - Asshole customers on note to waitress in VA

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I was asking because I don't recall ever seeing that on my receipts (and I always pay with card), not as a measure of authenticity. Though I think skepticism in a case like this is perfectly healthy given the climate we live in. Neogaf is certainly not immune, see: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1305959&page=5

Given the consensus on fake news, it is strange to see so little skepticism in this thread compared to this one: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1209230

I wonder how many people have that church thread bookmarked
 
I wonder how many people have that church thread bookmarked

Why the hell would you bookmark it?

EDIT: I don't have any threads bookmarked. That's a real shitty thing for you to insinuate. And whether this story is or not does not change the fact that not everything you read is true, and using what amounts to a gut check to call for internet justice is almost universally a societal cancer.
 

Zoe

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You sure? I've known I've seen receipts like the one in the OP in sit down restaurants before.

I eat out a lot more than I should, so yes, I'm sure. 99% of the time, the only difference between the two receipts I receive is one says "Merchant Copy" while the other says "Customer Copy". The third receipt is the pre-pay receipt which would never say zero balance due unless your entire check is getting comped for whatever reason.

Edit: On Yelp it looks like some of the locations might have counter service in addition to sit-down, but that would make this couple doubly shitty by ordering at the counter and then sitting down to eat.
 

Trojita

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And it was at a Mexican restaurant. It's likely they don't like Mexican people, but still want to eat their food.

The only thing that has me confused is the balance due at $0.00. Never seen that before.
 
Did they find them for sure and determine that they did it? I just get so skeptical on this stuff. Shitty if true, but I'm always wary to accept it because it seems so ridiculous that people would actually do shit like this.

E: I realize my post comes off really shitty. But I don't mean it as such. I just don't know some people are really that terrible, so my brain just immediately has a hard time realizing it's a real thing to be that garbage of a person.
Its hard not to be skeptical with the influx of "anonymous evil note ---> gofundme blessing" stories on the news
 
Why the hell would you bookmark it?

EDIT: I don't have any threads bookmarked. That's a real shitty thing for you to insinuate. And whether this story is or not does not change the fact that not everything you read is true, and using what amounts to a gut check to call for internet justice is almost universally a societal cancer.

Hey, if it turns out to be fake I'll eat crow with non-pandering hot sauce, but I suppose we have to consider why your first instinct is to think this could be fake and why mine is to think it's probably real given what we know right now

This is a pretty low-level instance (and one that happens daily in different forms) compared to burning down a church, so I'm not really skeptical about people going out of their way to shit on a black waitress
 
Hey, if it turns out to be fake I'll eat crow with non-pandering hot sauce, but I suppose we have to consider why your first instinct is to think this could be fake and why mine is to think it's probably real given what we know right now

This is a pretty low-level instance (and one that happens daily in different forms) compared to burning down a church, so I'm not really skeptical about people going out of their way to shit on a black waitress

I'm biased to think fake because I've never met anyone that would write something like that on a receipt. Hell, I don't know anyone that writes anything other than numbers on a receipt. Combine that with the relative freshness of threads that started similarly where the initial report was false. But that's just my experience and I get why other people would be inclined to believe otherwise. Either way, there is no certainty so seeing people call for these people to be "named and shamed", fired from their jobs, etc. is dangerous. Also, Black Mirror.

The point is that yes, I have a bias which leads me to hesitate to outright believe this story.
 
The only thing that has me confused is the balance due at $0.00. Never seen that before.

It's common, I can only assume many folks in this thread don't pay attention. Anyhoo, here is the 'full'' receipt. The blacked out part is an illegible sig, and the last 4 of the CC, so not sure why that site decided to censor.

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She sounds so upbeat, Black Girl Magic

Lots of various stories stories about black people responded to ugly racism with grace, from Obama to the Charleston church to this. Almost want to ask why are black people expected or even required to respond with their best to white people's worst instincts. "Can we just move on/you didn't have to drag it out/your response is as bad as what they did to you/etc." Jesus...
 

Zoe

Member
It's common, I can only assume many folks in this thread don't pay attention. Anyhoo, here is the 'full'' receipt. The blacked out part is an illegible sig, and the last 4 of the CC, so not sure why that site decided to censor.

010917_recepit.jpg

Must be different in other regions. I always see receipts like this randomly googled one:

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zelas

Member
I'm biased to think fake because I've never met anyone that would write something like that on a receipt. Hell, I don't know anyone that writes anything other than numbers on a receipt. Combine that with the relative freshness of threads that started similarly where the initial report was false. But that's just my experience and I get why other people would be inclined to believe otherwise. Either way, there is no certainty so seeing people call for these people to be "named and shamed", fired from their jobs, etc. is dangerous. Also, Black Mirror.

Everyone in the world acts like just the people you know??? And that people only write numbers, not letters used in signatures, on a receipt???

What kind of bubble are you living in to think that's an accurate rule of thumb. Maybe your rule of thumb should be not to speak on issue of the world until you've gained more experience than what the "people you've met" have provided you.
 
Lots of various stories stories about black people responded to ugly racism with grace, from Obama to the Charleston church to this. Almost want to ask why are black people expected or even required to respond with their best to white people's worst instincts. "Can we just move on/you didn't have to drag it out/your response is as bad as what they did to you/etc." Jesus...

It's the same reason that black people are asked and expected to forgive people after tragedies that involve loss of life.

Forgiveness minimizes the offense. If ultimately they're not mad, why should everyone else be mad?

Of course, being mad doesn't do you any favors either, because then you fall into angry black person stereotype.

Ultimately, you can't win no matter what you do.
 
Everyone in the world acts like just the people you know??? And that people only write numbers, not letters used in signatures, on a receipt???

What kind of bubble are you living in to think that's an accurate rule of thumb. Maybe your rule of thumb should be not to speak on issue of the world until you've gained more experience than what the "people you've met" have provided you.

I was admitting my bias. I also admitted that other people have experiences which would lead them to be differently inclined. Everyone "lives in a bubble" of one kind or another. I've also only provided cautionary examples which seemed relevant. And obviously I was excluding the signature portion when thinking about what you write on a receipt.

Must be different in other regions. I always see receipts like this randomly googled one:

aPLOXgo.jpg

Yeah, these are what I get.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
They don't tip anyone, not just black people but they are scummy and racist enough that they have to let the black waitress know this fact about how low class they are.
 

Paskil

Member
Nah, they just needed to let her know that they aren't bad people and that they would normally tip (only assholes don't tip, right?). I mean, except for the fact that she was a darkie. But we definitely aren't bad people because we would normally tip such good service.

I mean, they aren't monsters or anything, right? Only monsters don't ever tip.
 
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Vilix

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Screw those racist bastards. My hope is she'll rise above this.
 

Glass Joe

Member
So, a random racist couple is racist and shitty. "Wow, that's awful!" But shouldn't Mod-Bot, who closed the original thread about the 4 black people torturing a white special needs person, also feel the need to close this thread? -- Here was his/her viewpoint on that --

MOD-BOT:
Please don't create threads about news stories whose sole point is to horrify and appall people. This applies equally to stories about horrible events and to random, petty local tragedies of no greater significance. It makes people's experience of our community worse if they have to tiptoe in between threads about mundane atrocities just to participate in the OT. Real news stories of cultural import are fine, even when they're about something horrific happening, but if the right response to a story is mostly just "wow that's awful" it probably shouldn't get a thread.

This seems like a random, petty local tragedy of no greater significance. Racists not tipping is shitty, but a "mundane atrocity" as well.
 
What annoyed me about the story was that they bothered to write the note. I mean, are they so dumb that they somehow think "Ah well, she was nice so she deserves to know why we didn't tip her". As if it would somehow be better than just walking out of the bloody restaurant.

Because it makes them feel better know that they're oppressing those of which they hate.
 

Enzom21

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So, a random racist couple is racist and shitty. "Wow, that's awful!" But shouldn't Mod-Bot, who closed the original thread about the 4 black people torturing a white special needs person, also feel the need to close this thread? -- Here was his/her viewpoint on that --

MOD-BOT:
Please don't create threads about news stories whose sole point is to horrify and appall people. This applies equally to stories about horrible events and to random, petty local tragedies of no greater significance. It makes people's experience of our community worse if they have to tiptoe in between threads about mundane atrocities just to participate in the OT. Real news stories of cultural import are fine, even when they're about something horrific happening, but if the right response to a story is mostly just "wow that's awful" it probably shouldn't get a thread.

This seems like a random, petty local tragedy of no greater significance. Racists not tipping is shitty, but a "mundane atrocity" as well.

Did you PM a mod?
 

cheststrongwell

my cake, fuck off
I don't know how this store's system works, but when I waited tables, receipts reprinted after the person paid showed "balance due: 0.00".
 
Like, was it necessary to leave the note at all?

Maybe they felt guilty for not tipping.

No, and maybe I'll get banned for the post I made. But I'm asking why this hasn't been closed and giving an explicit example of why I'd expect it to be. Maybe Mod-Bot hasn't seen it, as no one is on 24 hours a day. Or maybe there's a difference that can be explained easily for me to learn from.

I read that rule as prohibiting disturbing content that adds little to the conversation. If the rule banned common, every day misfortunes, gaf would grind to a halt.
 

Glass Joe

Member
Did you PM a mod?

No, and maybe I'll get banned for the post I made. But I'm asking why this hasn't been closed and giving an explicit example of why I'd expect it to be. Maybe Mod-Bot hasn't seen it, as no one is on 24 hours a day. Or maybe there's a difference that can be explained easily for me to learn from.
 

Enzom21

Member
No, and maybe I'll get banned for the post I made. But I'm asking why this hasn't been closed and giving an explicit example of why I'd expect it to be. Maybe Mod-Bot hasn't seen it, as no one is on 24 hours a day. Or maybe there's a difference that can be explained easily for me to learn from.

You should PM a mod if there is an issue with a thread. Do you think mods are all knowing all seeing omnipotent beings?
They say constantly: "If you have issue with moderation, PM a mod."
You should do that. It would probably be more effective than thread shitting.
 

Glass Joe

Member
You should PM a mod if there is an issue with a thread. Do you think mods are all knowing all seeing omnipotent beings?
They say constantly: "If you have issue with moderation, PM a mod."
You should do that.

They seem pretty good at participating in or closing threads, yeah.
 

Glass Joe

Member
You're assuming someone didn't PM a mod about those threads, yeah?
Shooting a PM to a mod is more effective than thread shitting.
Is your goal to get the thread closed?

I gave my opinion on the thread (wow those people are racist and shitty). Adding to it, I'll say that the person exposed to that racism acted really classy about it. My goal isn't to get the thread closed. But I do take issue that the thread I referenced was initially closed. Perhaps, since that topic went on to get a lot more attention, the mod would say they made a mistake at the time. Or, maybe not. Perhaps the mod would close this thread, or explain the difference.

Or perhaps you should PM me, as you and I going back and forth with your thoughts here certainly is derailing the thread.
 
So, a random racist couple is racist and shitty. "Wow, that's awful!" But shouldn't Mod-Bot, who closed the original thread about the 4 black people torturing a white special needs person, also feel the need to close this thread? -- Here was his/her viewpoint on that --

MOD-BOT:
Please don't create threads about news stories whose sole point is to horrify and appall people. This applies equally to stories about horrible events and to random, petty local tragedies of no greater significance. It makes people's experience of our community worse if they have to tiptoe in between threads about mundane atrocities just to participate in the OT. Real news stories of cultural import are fine, even when they're about something horrific happening, but if the right response to a story is mostly just "wow that's awful" it probably shouldn't get a thread.

This seems like a random, petty local tragedy of no greater significance. Racists not tipping is shitty, but a "mundane atrocity" as well.

You mean the thread that was then recreated and remained open. When more details came in.
 

Slayven

Member
I gave my opinion on the thread (wow those people are racist and shitty). Adding to it, I'll say that the person exposed to that racism acted really classy about it. My goal isn't to get the thread closed. But I do take issue that the thread I referenced was initially closed. Perhaps, since that topic went on to get a lot more attention, the mod would say they made a mistake at the time. Or, maybe not. Perhaps the mod would close this thread, or explain the difference.

Or perhaps you should PM me, as you and I going back and forth with your thoughts here certainly is derailing the thread.

Issues are always best served just PMing a Mod.
 

Enzom21

Member
I gave my opinion on the thread (wow those people are racist and shitty). Adding to it, I'll say that the person exposed to that racism acted really classy about it. My goal isn't to get the thread closed. But I do take issue that the thread I referenced was initially closed. Perhaps, since that topic went on to get a lot more attention, the mod would say they made a mistake at the time. Or, maybe not. Perhaps the mod would close this thread, or explain the difference.

Or perhaps you should PM me, as you and I going back and forth with your thoughts here certainly is derailing the thread.
Once again, your issue and questions can easily be answered by a mod.
What does that thread have to do with this one by the way?
Why would I PM you? I don't want the thread closed and you aren't a mod.
 

Glass Joe

Member
Once again, your issue and questions can easily be answered by a mod.
What does that thread have to do with this one by the way?
Why would I PM you? I don't want the thread closed and you aren't a mod.

The ideology of moderators shouldn't need to be a secret. How are you supposed to know what viewpoints are okay to express or not allowed if people don't ask on this forum publically? A PM to a straight answer should never be needed.

And I already described how I felt this thread related to the other one.

And I suggested you PM'ed me since you were so offended by a thread derail, nothing more. But don't worry, I'd rather not continue our back and forth.
 

Enzom21

Member
The ideology of moderators shouldn't need to be a secret. How are you supposed to know what viewpoints are okay to express or not allowed if people don't ask on this forum publically? A PM to a straight answer should never be needed.

And I already described how I felt this thread related to the other one.

And I suggested you PM'ed me since you were so offended by a thread derail, nothing more. But don't worry, I'd rather not continue our back and forth.

By PM'ing a mod... you know the thing you should have done in the first place.
I wasn't offended by your admitted thread derail, that's why I responded to it.
I have no desire to PM someone such as yourself.
 

Newline

Member
Perhaps, since that topic went on to get a lot more attention, the mod would say they made a mistake at the time. Or, maybe not. Perhaps the mod would close this thread, or explain the difference.

Or perhaps you should PM me, as you and I going back and forth with your thoughts here certainly is derailing the thread.
Well this story is currently being reported to me by BBC news here in London so I think the topic is rather far reaching.

In general though calling out mod behaviour to a thread based on other threads is bad form. It's like being that kid in class who'd always complain that the other kid didn't get told off for doing x y or z but they did.
 
The ideology of moderators shouldn't need to be a secret. How are you supposed to know what viewpoints are okay to express or not allowed if people don't ask on this forum publically? A PM to a straight answer should never be needed

You're complaining about action, but not taking the matter to the mods more efficiently. How smart. If you want a mod to answer, seriously, just send a PM and politely ask them to reply on the forum.
 
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