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[Specialmias]

I don't believe this story. It makes no sense to me. It's just being mean for the sake of it. "Great service but we are effing racist so no tip, sorry." P.S. We paid by credit card, so you know who we are.

Really? In case this is real, isn't there anything you can do against this people? They just left a handwritten note saying they didn't tip the waitress because of her skin colour. Is that even legal?

They have no legal obligations to tip and can refuse it for any reason.

 

[Dabanton]

mid-20's? So much for racism dying with old people

Obamas reelection showed how virulently racist a lot of younger people were.

A lot of those ass hats would have been old enough to vote this time around.

 

[shanafan]

They have no legal obligations to tip and can refuse it for any reason.

I don't think he is debating the idea of not tipping but the fact that their personal information, like their name, would be on the receipt and thus the story can go national with their names right out there.

 

[ISOM]

So, a random racist couple is racist and shitty. "Wow, that's awful!" But shouldn't Mod-Bot, who closed the original thread about the 4 black people torturing a white special needs person, also feel the need to close this thread? -- Here was his/her viewpoint on that --

MOD-BOT:
Please don't create threads about news stories whose sole point is to horrify and appall people. This applies equally to stories about horrible events and to random, petty local tragedies of no greater significance. It makes people's experience of our community worse if they have to tiptoe in between threads about mundane atrocities just to participate in the OT. Real news stories of cultural import are fine, even when they're about something horrific happening, but if the right response to a story is mostly just "wow that's awful" it probably shouldn't get a thread.

This seems like a random, petty local tragedy of no greater significance. Racists not tipping is shitty, but a "mundane atrocity" as well.

What are you even complaining about? That thread was eventually allowed so you're complaining over nothing.

 

[David Ricardo]

They have no legal obligations to tip and can refuse it for any reason.

But is it legal in the U.S. to write a note to somebody saying you don't like his skin colour? I understand there is freedom of speech and everything. But writing a note with the sole purpose of making a waitress know you don't like her skin color doesn't sound right to me. There should be a law against it.

 

[Ponn]

I hear ya but that's why I'm skeptical of this incident. People that hateful are not going to give a black person a compliment under any circumstances.

What experience or facts do you have to say this with such authority? I have met some pretty deluded people living blissfully in a land where they believe their racism or bigotry does not make them a hateful person. Have you never met or seen a christian telling a gay person they will burn in hell and they won't serve them but they still love them?

Also as far as the incident, why don't passive aggressive cowards like this ever have the balls to tell the person BEFORE they order they aren't going to tip them because they are black no matter how good of service they provide.

 

[Zoe]

But is it legal in the U.S. to write a note to somebody saying you don't like his skin colour? I understand there is freedom of speech and everything. But writing a note with the sole purpose of making a waitress know you don't like her skin color doesn't sound right to me. There should be a law against it.

Yes, as a customer, it's legal. Even if it were the company saying it, as long as they still gave you the same service, it's legal.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Then we'll get another thread like this where people rush in to express outrage about not protecting a racist's privacy.

Just don't forget to mention that the red lobster incident was quite possibly a hoax http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/05...ist-in-receipt-hoax-sues-for-1-million-121118

I'm biased to think fake because I've never met anyone that would write something like that on a receipt. Hell, I don't know anyone that writes anything other than numbers on a receipt. Combine that with the relative freshness of threads that started similarly where the initial report was false. But that's just my experience and I get why other people would be inclined to believe otherwise. Either way, there is no certainty so seeing people call for these people to be "named and shamed", fired from their jobs, etc. is dangerous. Also, Black Mirror.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

If it's a hoax, the person responsible for lying should also be named and shamed.

We have enough problems with real racism to have to deal with the racism apologists doing victory laps every time we get one wrong.

 

[Figboy79]

I mean, they had to compliment her first. She's a credit to her people, after all. If this story is indeed true.

I'm not surprised by this shit, but then again, as a black dude, I'm very much aware of the racial issues minorities face in this country from first hand experience. Not all racism is displayed with anger and "nigger this," and "nigger that." A lot of it is subtle, "You're probably a good person, but I still don't like your people, nor would I trust you to hold my purse/wallet, or come to my house." Subtle racism is frustrating and hard to fight against. There are so many culturally "accepted" stereotypes out there that most of the offensive things being said about minorities aren't at the extreme end of racial epithets.

They probably thought they were actually paying her a compliment, and that the rationale behind not leaving her a tip was sound and inoffensive. "We normally tip, but not black people. Sorry. Should have been born white. Good luck trying to pay your rent this month, though. All lives matter!"

 

[Wuthering_Heights]

The numbers are written so differently than the curly letters.

I noticed that as well.

 

[Opto]

But is it legal in the U.S. to write a note to somebody saying you don't like his skin colour? I understand there is freedom of speech and everything. But writing a note with the sole purpose of making a waitress know you don't like her skin color doesn't sound right to me. There should be a law against it.

we don't really have hate speech laws. our 1st amendment protects this kind of speech and it'd probably be ruled unconstitutional to pass a law like that.

not saying it's great, mind you

 

[chromatic9]

Just wait for the racists to die. Right?

I did naively think this growing up in the 80s. At my school we had kids of different races all playing together which wasn't the case of previous generations or extremely rare. High school and adult life start to change.

I still genuinely feel more people are not racist compared to 50-100 years ago but it was a totally different world of World Wars, less traveling and knowledge of each country.

 

[The Beard]

The note doesn't even make sense. The guy admitted he didn't leave a tip (shame on him) but said he didn't write the note (obviously a denial doesn't mean shit)

To me, the only way this makes sense is the server, or a coworker wrote this as a sarcastic/satirical response to having just provided good service and getting shafted on a tip. "I provided good service and got $0 tip. I wonder why that young white couple would do that?"

Either that, or racists are getting friendlier?

 

[David Ricardo]

The note doesn't even make sense. The guy admitted he didn't leave a tip (shame on him) but said he didn't write the note (obviously a denial doesn't mean shit)

To me, the only way this makes sense is the server, or a coworker wrote this as a sarcastic/satirical response to having just provided good service and getting shafted on a tip. "I provided good service and got $0 tip. I wonder why that young white couple would do that?"

Either that, or racists are getting friendlier?

They already know who was the customer? Do you have a link?

 

[The Beard]

They already know who was the customer? Do you have a link?

Wow, I mixed this up with a similar "racist receipt" story. Sorry.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Can you justify spitting in someone's food for making a statement like this? I want to say no, but I'll go with yes. Taste my spit you racist fucks.

Spit isn't technically bad, or why do people kiss?

But no. I don't think going on thier level is helping.

 

[Daybreaker]

I find it weird how the person acknowledges the good service with bad customer attitude.

 

[Strike]

The service industry has a way of bringing out the very worst in people. It's totally plausible that some shitheels would pull some passive aggressive stunt like this.

 

[Skellig Gra]

The service industry has a way of bringing out the very worst in people. It's totally plausible that some shitheels would pull some passive aggressive stunt like this.

Its definitely possible, the handwriting doesn't really match up in the picture tho so I am a bit skeptical.

 

[psychodino]

When you know you are going to disappoint somebody, its common to precede it with a compliment..... great service....but we can't tip

Same, that's the part that really throws me off.

"We appreciate what you do, sorry you're black though"

Like they just can't possibly make that small, small step towards equality after already showing genuine (or so it seems) acceptance.